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In a message dated 9/10/01 1:14:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

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<< OK, everybody, I finally did it! I ordered my Medic Alert bracelet today

with the Large emblem (at least it isn't a belt!!!) Love, Judy

>>

JUDY, JUDY JUDY!!!!!!!! Thank you girl..... You should be soooo proud of

yourself and now it's one less person for me to nag!! lOL

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In a message dated 9/10/01 1:14:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

writes:

<< OK, everybody, I finally did it! I ordered my Medic Alert bracelet today

with the Large emblem (at least it isn't a belt!!!) Love, Judy

>>

JUDY, JUDY JUDY!!!!!!!! Thank you girl..... You should be soooo proud of

yourself and now it's one less person for me to nag!! lOL

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Judy,

Good for you!!

Love,

Sandy

OK, everybody, I finally did it! I ordered my Medic Alert bracelet today with the Large emblem (at least it isn't a belt!!!) Love, JudyDISCLAIMER!!WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

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Judy,

Good for you!!

Love,

Sandy

OK, everybody, I finally did it! I ordered my Medic Alert bracelet today with the Large emblem (at least it isn't a belt!!!) Love, JudyDISCLAIMER!!WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

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In a message dated 09/10/2001 7:18:49 PM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< now it's one less person for me to nag!! lOL >>

, you can " nag " me anytime! Though I do feel better knowing that if I

collapse somewhere, or walk into the side of a building (more likely), at

least someone will know what to do with me! One down, next project is to get

Jim into a sleep study. He knew about it, but he " doesn't need " to go!

I'll keep " nagging " ! Love ya' Judy

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In a message dated 09/10/2001 7:18:49 PM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< now it's one less person for me to nag!! lOL >>

, you can " nag " me anytime! Though I do feel better knowing that if I

collapse somewhere, or walk into the side of a building (more likely), at

least someone will know what to do with me! One down, next project is to get

Jim into a sleep study. He knew about it, but he " doesn't need " to go!

I'll keep " nagging " ! Love ya' Judy

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In a message dated 9/17/01 8:40:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

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<< building (more likely), at

least someone will know what to do with me! One down, next project is to

get

Jim into a sleep study. He knew about it, but he " doesn't need " to go!

I'll keep " nagging " ! Love ya' Judy

>>

Oh Judy, Please keep nagging him... Rich and I both went to the sleep dr

today.. They had to up Rich's pressure on the cpap. I feel so much better

knowing that he is breathing when he sleeps. LOL It is sooo important...

Tell him the " Nag " said so...

Hey... if he isn't careful, Heidi will come and make his appt for him. LOL

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In a message dated 9/17/01 8:40:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JOstry93@...

writes:

<< building (more likely), at

least someone will know what to do with me! One down, next project is to

get

Jim into a sleep study. He knew about it, but he " doesn't need " to go!

I'll keep " nagging " ! Love ya' Judy

>>

Oh Judy, Please keep nagging him... Rich and I both went to the sleep dr

today.. They had to up Rich's pressure on the cpap. I feel so much better

knowing that he is breathing when he sleeps. LOL It is sooo important...

Tell him the " Nag " said so...

Hey... if he isn't careful, Heidi will come and make his appt for him. LOL

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In a message dated 09/18/2001 4:05:45 AM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< Heidi will come and make his appt for him. LOL >>

Now THAT is an option I hadn't considered! Guess I'll keep nagging! Love,

Judy

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In a message dated 09/18/2001 4:05:45 AM Central Daylight Time,

RCColloran@... writes:

<< Heidi will come and make his appt for him. LOL >>

Now THAT is an option I hadn't considered! Guess I'll keep nagging! Love,

Judy

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> Subject: Less Famous Proverbs

>

>

> > 1. He who laughs last, thinks slowest.

> > 2. Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.

> > 3. A day without sunshine is like ... night.

> > 4. On the other hand, you have different fingers.

> > 5. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

> > 6. I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory.

> > 7. When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.

> > 8. Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.

> > 9. Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

> > 10. I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.

> > 11. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be

> > misquoted then used against you.

> > 12. I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.

> > 13. Honk if you love peace & quiet.

> > 14. Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so

> & ! gt; popular?

> > 15. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

> > 16. It is hard to understand how a cemetery raised its burial cost

> > and blamed it on the cost of living.

> > 17. The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting

> > something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

> > 18. It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end to

> > end, someone would be stupid enough to try and pass them (most likely a

> > German).

> > 19. You can't have everything, where would you put it?

> > 20. Latest survey shows that 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the

> > world's population.

> > 21. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things

> > left by those who got there first.

> > 22. A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing

> > well.

> > 23. It was recently discovered that research causes cancer in rats.

> > 24. ! I wished the buck stopped here, as I could use a few.

> > 25. I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it.

> > 26. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear

> > bright until you hear them speak

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Subject: Less Famous Proverbs

>

>

> > 1. He who laughs last, thinks slowest.

> > 2. Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.

> > 3. A day without sunshine is like ... night.

> > 4. On the other hand, you have different fingers.

> > 5. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

> > 6. I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory.

> > 7. When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.

> > 8. Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.

> > 9. Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

> > 10. I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.

> > 11. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be

> > misquoted then used against you.

> > 12. I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.

> > 13. Honk if you love peace & quiet.

> > 14. Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so

> & ! gt; popular?

> > 15. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

> > 16. It is hard to understand how a cemetery raised its burial cost

> > and blamed it on the cost of living.

> > 17. The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting

> > something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

> > 18. It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end to

> > end, someone would be stupid enough to try and pass them (most likely a

> > German).

> > 19. You can't have everything, where would you put it?

> > 20. Latest survey shows that 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the

> > world's population.

> > 21. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things

> > left by those who got there first.

> > 22. A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing

> > well.

> > 23. It was recently discovered that research causes cancer in rats.

> > 24. ! I wished the buck stopped here, as I could use a few.

> > 25. I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it.

> > 26. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear

> > bright until you hear them speak

>

>

>

>

>

>

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<< By the way I never really learned anything on this message board my face

still does what it wants when it wants. I tried every stupid thing on here

and i always go back to antibiotics and metrogel there right thats all that

really helps it keeps me from looking like pizza face.And i am so tired of

people bothering and talking about Dr. Nase he wrote a book on rosacea and

never to be seen again who cares. maybe this group provided him all the

research along with his own rosacea to write his book and now it is out.Thats

what everybody wanted. The Book Beating rosacea well I never bought it cause

I live it i dont need to read about it.>>

you may be unhappy

dear girl

but there is no need to vent your spleen on

all these people who have tried to be

supportive.

do try to remain positive.

the chances are high that

everyone

on this list wants to give in to negativity too

and

perhaps the best thing we can do is

lend support

lend an ear

that is why it is called:

rosacea support group

not

rosacea cure group

good luck

stacey

p.s. you might want to step away from the whole

dr nase

issue

before you say something that you might be ashamed of later.

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<< By the way I never really learned anything on this message board my face

still does what it wants when it wants. I tried every stupid thing on here

and i always go back to antibiotics and metrogel there right thats all that

really helps it keeps me from looking like pizza face.And i am so tired of

people bothering and talking about Dr. Nase he wrote a book on rosacea and

never to be seen again who cares. maybe this group provided him all the

research along with his own rosacea to write his book and now it is out.Thats

what everybody wanted. The Book Beating rosacea well I never bought it cause

I live it i dont need to read about it.>>

you may be unhappy

dear girl

but there is no need to vent your spleen on

all these people who have tried to be

supportive.

do try to remain positive.

the chances are high that

everyone

on this list wants to give in to negativity too

and

perhaps the best thing we can do is

lend support

lend an ear

that is why it is called:

rosacea support group

not

rosacea cure group

good luck

stacey

p.s. you might want to step away from the whole

dr nase

issue

before you say something that you might be ashamed of later.

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I agree. There is no cure for rosacea. I think everyone flares up for

different reasons. Here are my flare ups. Maybe yours are the same and

this will help:

humidity

extreme heat

spinach

coffee

wine

stress or when I get pissed off

Good tip if you have to drink, drink beer with ice in it. A lite beer that

is.

Also, I use Plexion wash for my face and there is also a cream for the zits.

The ones on my back and chest go away in about a day after use.

If you live near Chicago, I can give you a good doctor. I am having laser

treatments right now it and seems to be helping only after two.

I don't have acne on my face, just red and some lovely veins. I only break

out with pimples when it is humid. I sent my picture recently if you saw

it.

As for Dr. Nase, who the hell is this guy? I don't know and I have no

interest in buying the book either.

I think its good for your sole and mind to write and receive from other

people with the same problems. It is somewhat good to know that there are

other people out there like you and you are not alone. Know what I mean?

I hope this helps you.

(no subject)

By the way I never really learned anything on this message board my face

still does what it wants when it wants. I tried every stupid thing on here

and i always go back to antibiotics and metrogel there right thats all that

really helps it keeps me from looking like pizza face.And i am so tired of

people bothering and talking about Dr. Nase he wrote a book on rosacea and

never to be seen again who cares. maybe this group provided him all the

research along with his own rosacea to write his book and now it is

out.Thats

what everybody wanted. The Book Beating rosacea well I never bought it cause

I live it i dont need to read about it.

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(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

subject when replying to a digest !

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I agree. There is no cure for rosacea. I think everyone flares up for

different reasons. Here are my flare ups. Maybe yours are the same and

this will help:

humidity

extreme heat

spinach

coffee

wine

stress or when I get pissed off

Good tip if you have to drink, drink beer with ice in it. A lite beer that

is.

Also, I use Plexion wash for my face and there is also a cream for the zits.

The ones on my back and chest go away in about a day after use.

If you live near Chicago, I can give you a good doctor. I am having laser

treatments right now it and seems to be helping only after two.

I don't have acne on my face, just red and some lovely veins. I only break

out with pimples when it is humid. I sent my picture recently if you saw

it.

As for Dr. Nase, who the hell is this guy? I don't know and I have no

interest in buying the book either.

I think its good for your sole and mind to write and receive from other

people with the same problems. It is somewhat good to know that there are

other people out there like you and you are not alone. Know what I mean?

I hope this helps you.

(no subject)

By the way I never really learned anything on this message board my face

still does what it wants when it wants. I tried every stupid thing on here

and i always go back to antibiotics and metrogel there right thats all that

really helps it keeps me from looking like pizza face.And i am so tired of

people bothering and talking about Dr. Nase he wrote a book on rosacea and

never to be seen again who cares. maybe this group provided him all the

research along with his own rosacea to write his book and now it is

out.Thats

what everybody wanted. The Book Beating rosacea well I never bought it cause

I live it i dont need to read about it.

--

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(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

subject when replying to a digest !

See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

To leave the list send an email to

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>>...I never really learned anything...I tried every stupid

>>thing...me...looking like pizza face...i...never to be seen again

>>who cares...Thats what everybody wanted...i dont need to read ...

This is the only support group I belong to, so I can't be objective

given the limited breadth of my exposure to the genre. That saying, I

would be surprised if cea Support is not the best web-based

support group in cyber land.

The knowledge I have gained regarding the physiological aspects of my

disorder, in addition to finding out about treatment options and skin

care, has been immeasurable. However, that takes a second seat to the

emotional sustenance I have received from you guys. Through this

group I have " met " a variety of interesting, warm, caring, helpful,

funny, committed individuals, from all over the world. I have met

friends.

I find it sad that a fellow cean can't see the inherent

helpfulness in the ongoing support this group unselfishly provides;

that she is blind to the excellence in such a forum.

--Jillian

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>>...I never really learned anything...I tried every stupid

>>thing...me...looking like pizza face...i...never to be seen again

>>who cares...Thats what everybody wanted...i dont need to read ...

This is the only support group I belong to, so I can't be objective

given the limited breadth of my exposure to the genre. That saying, I

would be surprised if cea Support is not the best web-based

support group in cyber land.

The knowledge I have gained regarding the physiological aspects of my

disorder, in addition to finding out about treatment options and skin

care, has been immeasurable. However, that takes a second seat to the

emotional sustenance I have received from you guys. Through this

group I have " met " a variety of interesting, warm, caring, helpful,

funny, committed individuals, from all over the world. I have met

friends.

I find it sad that a fellow cean can't see the inherent

helpfulness in the ongoing support this group unselfishly provides;

that she is blind to the excellence in such a forum.

--Jillian

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Yeah Plexion! It is the only product that gets rid of the bumps and pustules

(ick...I hate that word)

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Yeah Plexion! It is the only product that gets rid of the bumps and pustules

(ick...I hate that word)

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I think everybody differs in some ways and we all have different triggers.

Metro Gel DOES NOT eliminate pimples for me. The ones on my back only go

away the next day with Plexion. So I use Metro Gel in the morning on my

face and Plexion at night. I use the Plexion wash morning and night when I

look my worst, and only wash with water in the morning when I look okay.

Maybe this will help you.

Dr. Nase says not to use Retin-A but another doctor on the internet says

Retin-A in low doses helps. So who knows who is right. I won't try this

unless I'm desperate.

I was wondering if everyone ran to the doctor when they first noticed they

had a problem. After I had nose surgery (14 yrs. ago), my nose was red and

I thought it was from the surgery. I didn't go to the doctor until a few

months later which I think was still soon. Maybe that is why mine is not so

bad...or I'm just lucky? Don't know.

I think the person who wrote about drinking lots of water is right by the

way. I think it helps my face. Maybe this is why alcohol is bad because it

dehydrates?

Re: (no subject)

<< By the way I never really learned anything on this message board my face

still does what it wants when it wants. I tried every stupid thing on here

and i always go back to antibiotics and metrogel there right thats all that

really helps it keeps me from looking like pizza face.And i am so tired of

people bothering and talking about Dr. Nase he wrote a book on rosacea and

never to be seen again who cares. maybe this group provided him all the

research along with his own rosacea to write his book and now it is

out.Thats

what everybody wanted. The Book Beating rosacea well I never bought it cause

I live it i dont need to read about it.>>

you may be unhappy

dear girl

but there is no need to vent your spleen on

all these people who have tried to be

supportive.

do try to remain positive.

the chances are high that

everyone

on this list wants to give in to negativity too

and

perhaps the best thing we can do is

lend support

lend an ear

that is why it is called:

rosacea support group

not

rosacea cure group

good luck

stacey

p.s. you might want to step away from the whole

dr nase

issue

before you say something that you might be ashamed of later.

--

Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

subject when replying to a digest !

See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

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I think everybody differs in some ways and we all have different triggers.

Metro Gel DOES NOT eliminate pimples for me. The ones on my back only go

away the next day with Plexion. So I use Metro Gel in the morning on my

face and Plexion at night. I use the Plexion wash morning and night when I

look my worst, and only wash with water in the morning when I look okay.

Maybe this will help you.

Dr. Nase says not to use Retin-A but another doctor on the internet says

Retin-A in low doses helps. So who knows who is right. I won't try this

unless I'm desperate.

I was wondering if everyone ran to the doctor when they first noticed they

had a problem. After I had nose surgery (14 yrs. ago), my nose was red and

I thought it was from the surgery. I didn't go to the doctor until a few

months later which I think was still soon. Maybe that is why mine is not so

bad...or I'm just lucky? Don't know.

I think the person who wrote about drinking lots of water is right by the

way. I think it helps my face. Maybe this is why alcohol is bad because it

dehydrates?

Re: (no subject)

<< By the way I never really learned anything on this message board my face

still does what it wants when it wants. I tried every stupid thing on here

and i always go back to antibiotics and metrogel there right thats all that

really helps it keeps me from looking like pizza face.And i am so tired of

people bothering and talking about Dr. Nase he wrote a book on rosacea and

never to be seen again who cares. maybe this group provided him all the

research along with his own rosacea to write his book and now it is

out.Thats

what everybody wanted. The Book Beating rosacea well I never bought it cause

I live it i dont need to read about it.>>

you may be unhappy

dear girl

but there is no need to vent your spleen on

all these people who have tried to be

supportive.

do try to remain positive.

the chances are high that

everyone

on this list wants to give in to negativity too

and

perhaps the best thing we can do is

lend support

lend an ear

that is why it is called:

rosacea support group

not

rosacea cure group

good luck

stacey

p.s. you might want to step away from the whole

dr nase

issue

before you say something that you might be ashamed of later.

--

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(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html). Your post will be delayed if you don't

give a meaningful subject or trim your reply text. You must change the

subject when replying to a digest !

See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

To leave the list send an email to

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I'm sorry that this support group has not been helpful for you, but

for many many other people, this support group has been successful

in that it did exactly what it created to do: provide support.

One of the hardest things about having this condition is the

isolation one feels. To stand out, and have the feeling that you

are the only person who seems to have to deal with this. By

providing a public forum and a place to get together and discuss our

mutual problem, it takes away much of that isolation and allows us

to pool our resources and work together to find a solution or

solutions to treat our condition. I think almost all of the people

who still frequent the group have not found *THE* cure yet, but I

think we all recognize what a valuable resource this support group

yet.

I am confident that sooner or later we will come upon the solution

to our problem. We have already progressed so far in just a few

years of the existence of this group. I have been around since 1999

when the group was a mailing list on E-Scribe, and we knew so much

less about the actual condition than we do now. A large degree of

the progress we have made can directly be attributed to one Dr.

Nase. In a time when there were so few medically-knowledgable

people focusing on our problem, here came folks like Dr.Nase and

Dr.Sy who investing an immense amount of time conducting research,

asking questions, visiting doctors and testing treatments. For

that service I hold a great amount of gratitude for him. While he

may not have helped *YOUR* condition to your own satisfaction, he

has probably helped countless others in treating their condition who

have the pleasure of never needing to return to this support group

anymore.

Again, if you feel like this board doesn't fill your needs, or

doesn't hold any value for you, then you are free too _leave_.

Nobody is forcing you to come here and you are under no obligation

to stay. If this group is so useless to you, why do you come?

But if you ever feel like you need some people to talk to about

rosacea and would like to learn more about how people are treating

it and new possible discoveries, then feel free to come around

anytime, because this group is open to all.

--

Sy

> By the way I never really learned anything on this message board

my face

> still does what it wants when it wants. I tried every stupid thing

on here

> and i always go back to antibiotics and metrogel there right thats

all that

> really helps it keeps me from looking like pizza face.And i am so

tired of

> people bothering and talking about Dr. Nase he wrote a book on

rosacea and

> never to be seen again who cares. maybe this group provided him

all the

> research along with his own rosacea to write his book and now it

is out.Thats

> what everybody wanted. The Book Beating rosacea well I never

bought it cause

> I live it i dont need to read about it.

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