Hair Test Results

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Try to identify and reduce/remove sources of exposure. See www.danasview.net

for sources of exposure.

S S

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Aluminum       9.1          <   8.0       yellow<BR>

Uranium        0.29         < 0.060       red<BR>

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>

> What does a red level of Bismuth indicate (a result of 6.8 when ref.

range is

> < .13???? thanks much

High bismuth levels. Consider any current sources of exposures

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

Dana

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Hi ,

Welcome to the list. Looks like he could use even more zinc. Aluminum is in

vaccines and they increased it when the reduced the mercury in them. Aluminum

is also in baking powder (unless specifically labeled aluminum-free) and thus in

baked goods. Do you use aluminum bakeware? Aluminum is also added to public

water supplies in the fluoridation process. Check www.danasview.net/metals for

other sources of exposure. Tin is in some toothpaste in the form of stannous

fluoride.

S S

<p>Hi,<br>

<br>

I'm new to the group and have just received my 6 year old son's hair <br>

test. If I've understood it correctly this test doesn't meet the <br>

counting rules (unless someone here is able to interpret it <br>

otherwise). I'm very concerned about the high aluminium/tin/<wbr>total <br>

toxic representation. I'd really appreciate any advice on how to <br>

interpret these results and any first steps I could take to help <br>

him. <br>

<br>

Also I've been supplementing him with Brainchild's SSII <br>

minerals/vitamins and Liquizinc for about 18 months now. I'm <br>

wondering, given these results, if I'm going to have to adopt a <br>

system of supplementing using more individual products rather than <br>

multi vitamins/minerals. What are the implications of high <br>

molybdenum/low selenium?<br>

<br>

I've also included the ratios given which I don't really understand.<br>

<br>

Any help is much appreciated! <br>

<br>

<br>

<br>

Doctor's Data Hair Test<br>

<br>

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS <br>

element result ref range color <br>

============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>====== <br>

aluminum 34 <8.0 red<br>

antimony 0.13 <0.066 yellow<br>

arsenic 0.078 <0.80 green<br>

beryllium <0.01 <0.020 no line<br>

bismuth 0.089 <0.12 green<br>

cadmium 0.17 <0.15 yellow<br>

lead 1.4 <1.0 yellow<br>

mercury 0.17 0.005 no line<br>

thallium <0.001 <0.010 no line<br>

thorium <0.001 <0.005 no line<br>

uranium 0.003 0.060 green<br>

nickel 0.21 <0.40 green <br>

silver 0.15 <0.13 yellow <br>

tin 1.1 <0.30 red<br>

titanium 0.71 <1.0 green<br>

<br>

Total toxic representation: red<br>

<br>

<br>

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS <br>

element result ref range color under/over 50% <br>

============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=======\

==<wbr>=== <br>

Calcium 460 160-500 green over<br>

Magnesium 25 12-50 white 50%<br>

Sodium 98 12-90 yellow over<br>

Potassium 70 10-40 yellow over<br>

Copper 14 9-30 green under<br>

Zinc 120 110-190 green under <br>

Manganese 0.24 0.18 -0.60 green under<br>

Chromium 0.29 0.23- 0.50 green under<br>

Vanadium 0.056 0.025-0.10 white over <br>

Molybdenum 0.18 0.040-0.089 red over<br>

Boron 2.3 0.50-3.5 green over<br>

Iodine 0.28 0.25- 1.3 green under<br>

Lithium 0.018 0.007-0.023 green over<br>

Phosphorus 202 160-250 white over<br>

Selenium 0.78 0.95-1.7 yellow under<br>

Strontium 1.0 0.21-2.1 green over <br>

Sulfur 46400 4500-5300 green under<br>

Barium 0.31 0.19-1.6 green under<br>

Cobalt 0.014 0.013-0.035 green under<br>

Iron 6.6 6.0- 17 green under<br>

Germanium 0.030 0.045-0.065 yellow under<br>

Rubidium 0.036 0.008-0.80 green over<br>

Zirconium 0.089 0.060-0.70 green under <br>

<br>

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Ratios Expected Range<br>

Ca/Mg 18.4 4-30<br>

Ca/P 2.28 0.8-8<br>

Na/K 1.4 0.5-10<br>

Zn/Cu 8.57 4-20<br>

Zn/Cd 706 >800<br>

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> Also I've been supplementing him with Brainchild's SSII

> minerals/vitamins and Liquizinc for about 18 months now. I'm

> wondering, given these results, if I'm going to have to adopt a

> system of supplementing using more individual products rather than

> multi vitamins/minerals.

I was never able to use multi vitamins with my severely-affected kids.

I always had to use individual supplements.

>>What are the implications of high

> molybdenum/low selenium?

I don't know about high moly, but adding selenium was very beneficial

for my son.

> aluminum 34 <8.0 red

> antimony 0.13 <0.066 yellow

> cadmium 0.17 <0.15 yellow

> lead 1.4 <1.0 yellow

> silver 0.15 <0.13 yellow

> tin 1.1 <0.30 red

Consider removing sources of current exposures

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

Dana

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/Dana,

Thanks for the welcome/info/links - I'll probably be back with more

questions once I've taken the info on board!

[Guest guest]

> I'm new to the group and have just received my 6 year old son's hair

> test. If I've understood it correctly this test doesn't meet the

> counting rules

by the coiunting rules, it does look very normal.

However, this:

>

> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color

> =============================================

> aluminum 34 <8.0 red

> antimony 0.13 <0.066 yellow

> mercury 0.17 0.005 no line

> silver 0.15 <0.13 yellow

> tin 1.1 <0.30 red

looks a lot like mercury.

This

> lead 1.4 <1.0 yellow

may (or may not) be a problem in and of itself.

I'd suggest trying at least 5 rounds of chelation (with DMSA and ALA) and then

deciding if

it helped or not.

Andy

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Andy,

Many thanks for your interpretation/advice. I've been giving my son

various supplements for quite a while and didn't have a baseline hair

test before I started, so maybe that's why the essential/other

elements looks quite normal.

>

> > I'm new to the group and have just received my 6 year old son's

hair

> > test. If I've understood it correctly this test doesn't meet the

> > counting rules

>

> by the coiunting rules, it does look very normal.

>

> However, this:

> >

> > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> > element result ref range color

> > =============================================

> > aluminum 34 <8.0 red

> > antimony 0.13 <0.066 yellow

> > mercury 0.17 0.005 no line

> > silver 0.15 <0.13 yellow

> > tin 1.1 <0.30 red

>

> looks a lot like mercury.

>

> This

>

>

> > lead 1.4 <1.0 yellow

>

> may (or may not) be a problem in and of itself.

>

> I'd suggest trying at least 5 rounds of chelation (with DMSA and

ALA) and then deciding if

> it helped or not.

>

> Andy

>

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Comments interspersed.

S S

<p>I had both my daughter and my hair tested, and I was hoping to

get<br>

help or opinions on the results. They were not what I expected! I<br>

thought we were going to see mercury because my mom had high mercury,<br>

but we didn't. I know there's also some sort of counting rule about<br>

that? I don't know where we might have gotten the high levels of the<br>

other stuff though (where it came from). Nor do I know the best way<br>

to get rid of them (from our environment and our bodies). The<br>

exception is the Uranium I know is radon and we should have our home<br>

tested. The Bismuth that Catey has is supposed to not be toxic, but<br>

can cause constipation which Catey's always struggled with (I read it<br>

can be used as sauder for water pipes, but we do have a reverse<br>

osmosis filter). Ok here we go:<br>

<br>

Catey's results:<br>

<br>

Aluminum 10.6 normal ref: <= 17.3<br>

Antimony .130 ext high ref: <=.016<br>

*Antimony is used as flame retardant in mattresses, bedding, sleepwear,

playpens, carseats, upholstered furniture, solder, etc.

Arsenic .039 normal ref: <=.080<br>

Barium .15 low norm ref: <= 1.70<br>

Bismuth .843 very high ref: <= .178<br>

*Bismuth is in make-up and one particular brand of diaper rash cream.

Cadmium .021 normal/high ref: <= .022<br>

Gadolinium .0009 slight high ref: <= .0005<br>

Gallium .0030 normal ref: <= .0190<br>

Germanium <dl ref: <= .128<br>

Lead .221 normal ref: <= .700<br>

Mercury .12 normal ref: <= 1..32<br>

Nickel .50 high normal ref: <= .55<br>

*Nickel is in lots of different things, including hydorgenated foods and hair

permanent solution (at least some brands).

Palladium <dl ref: <= .015<br>

Platnium <dl ref: <= .0004<br>

Rhodium <dl ref: <= .0005<br>

Tellurium <dl ref: <= .0037<br>

Thalium <dl ref: <= .0004<br>

Thorium .0602 normal ref: <= .0749<br>

Tin .572 ext high ref: <= .149<br>

*Tin is in fluoridated toothpaste (if it's stannous flouride) among other

things.

Tungsten .0065 ext high ref: <= .0014<br>

*Check www.danasview.net/metals for more info on sources of exposure. We need

essential elements like calcium, potassium, etc. to apply counting rules.

Uranium .0662 ext high ref: <= .0057<br>

Copper 14 normal ref: 8 - 136<br>

<br>

Crystal's results<br>

<br>

Aluminum 15.2 normal<br>

Antimony .009 normal<br>

Arsenic .038 normal<br>

Barium .29 normal<br>

Bismuth .251 low high<br>

Cadmium .005 normal<br>

Gadolinium <dl<br>

Gallium .0029 normal<br>

Germanium <dl<br>

Lead .177 normal<br>

Mercury .10 normal<br>

Nickel .21 normal<br>

Palladium <dl<br>

Platinum .0005 low high (I don't have platinum jewelery)<br>

Rhodium .0003 normal<br>

Tellurium <dl<br>

Thallium <dl<br>

Thorium .0687 normal<br>

Tin .040 normal (Catey's is very high)<br>

Tungsten .0037 v. very high<br>

Uranium .1074 v. Ext high<br>

Copper 38<br>

<br>

Both of them were the Genova Diagnostics (used to be Great Smokies)<br>

Toxic Element Exposure Profile, Hair analysis.<br>

We have a clay bath I had planned on using, would it be good for<br>

these? What suggestions do you have? <br>

Thanks so much for any input!!!!<br>

<br>

Crystal<br>

Mom to Catey, 2 yrs 4 months, Verbal Apraxia (moderate)<br>

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I had both my daughter and my hair tested, and I was hoping to get

help or opinions on the results. They were not what I expected! I

thought we were going to see mercury because my mom had high mercury,

but we didn't. I know there's also some sort of counting rule about

that? I don't know where we might have gotten the high levels of the

other stuff though (where it came from). Nor do I know the best way

to get rid of them (from our environment and our bodies). The

exception is the Uranium I know is radon and we should have our home

tested. The Bismuth that Catey has is supposed to not be toxic, but

can cause constipation which Catey's always struggled with (I read it

can be used as sauder for water pipes, but we do have a reverse

osmosis filter). Ok here we go:

Catey's results:

Aluminum 10.6 normal ref: <= 17.3

Antimony .130 ext high ref: <=.016

Arsenic .039 normal ref: <=.080

Barium .15 low norm ref: <= 1.70

Bismuth .843 very high ref: <= .178

Cadmium .021 normal/high ref: <= .022

Gadolinium .0009 slight high ref: <= .0005

Gallium .0030 normal ref: <= .0190

Germanium <dl ref: <= .128

Lead .221 normal ref: <= .700

Mercury .12 normal ref: <= 1..32

Nickel .50 high normal ref: <= .55

Palladium <dl ref: <= .015

Platnium <dl ref: <= .0004

Rhodium <dl ref: <= .0005

Tellurium <dl ref: <= .0037

Thalium <dl ref: <= .0004

Thorium .0602 normal ref: <= .0749

Tin .572 ext high ref: <= .149

Tungsten .0065 ext high ref: <= .0014

Uranium .0662 ext high ref: <= .0057

Copper 14 normal ref: 8 - 136

Crystal's results

Aluminum 15.2 normal

Antimony .009 normal

Arsenic .038 normal

Barium .29 normal

Bismuth .251 low high

Cadmium .005 normal

Gadolinium <dl

Gallium .0029 normal

Germanium <dl

Lead .177 normal

Mercury .10 normal

Nickel .21 normal

Palladium <dl

Platinum .0005 low high (I don't have platinum jewelery)

Rhodium .0003 normal

Tellurium <dl

Thallium <dl

Thorium .0687 normal

Tin .040 normal (Catey's is very high)

Tungsten .0037 v. very high

Uranium .1074 v. Ext high

Copper 38

Both of them were the Genova Diagnostics (used to be Great Smokies)

Toxic Element Exposure Profile, Hair analysis.

We have a clay bath I had planned on using, would it be good for

these? What suggestions do you have?

Thanks so much for any input!!!!

Crystal

Mom to Catey, 2 yrs 4 months, Verbal Apraxia (moderate)

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You can check info like this at the CDC.

Tugsten is used in fire retardent materials

here is some info about how you get it into your body and how it affects

children:

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/phs186.html

Public Health Statement

for

Tungsten

(Tungsteno)

August 2005

PDF Version, 67 KB

CAS#: 7440-66-6

1.1 What is this substance?

1.2 What happens to it when it enters the environment?

1.3 How might I be exposed to it?

1.4 How can it enter and leave my body?

1.5 How can it affect my health?

1.6 How can it affect children?

1.7 How can families reduce the risk of exposure?

1.8 Is there a medical test to determine whether I have been exposed to it?

1.9 What recommendations has the federal government made to protect human

health?

1.10 Where can I get more information?

References

This Public Health Statement is the summary chapter from the Toxicological

Profile for Tungsten. It is one in a series of Public Health Statements about

hazardous substances and their health effects. A shorter version, the ToxFAQs™,

is also available. This information is important because this substance may harm

you. The effects of exposure to any hazardous substance depend on the dose, the

duration, how you are exposed, personal traits and habits, and whether other

chemicals are present. For more information, call the ATSDR Information Center

at 1-888-422-8737.

This public health statement tells you about tungsten and the effects of

exposure to it.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) identifies the most serious

hazardous waste sites in the nation. These sites are then placed on the National

Priorities List (NPL) and are targeted for long-term federal clean-up

activities. Tungsten has been found in at least 6 of the 1,662 current or former

NPL sites. Although the total number of NPL sites evaluated for this substance

is not known, the possibility exists that the number of sites at which tungsten

is found may increase in the future as more sites are evaluated. This

information is important because these sites may be sources of exposure and

exposure to this substance may harm you.

When a substance is released either from a large area, such as an industrial

plant, or from a container, such as a drum or bottle, it enters the environment.

Such a release does not always lead to exposure. You can be exposed to a

substance only when you come in contact with it. You may be exposed by

breathing, eating, or drinking the substance, or by skin contact.

If you are exposed to tungsten, many factors will determine whether you will

be harmed. These factors include the dose (how much), the duration (how long),

and how you come in contact with it. You must also consider any other chemicals

you are exposed to and your age, sex, diet, family traits, lifestyle, and state

of health.

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1.1 What is tungsten?

Tungsten is a naturally occurring element that, in most environments, is a

solid. In nature, it occurs in rocks and soil as minerals, but never as the pure

metal. Two kinds of tungsten-bearing mineral rocks, called wolframite and

scheelite, are mined commercially. The mineral ore is processed to recover the

tungsten and turn it into either chemical compounds or metal. Elemental

tungsten, like elemental copper or gold, is a metal. Its color can range from

tin white (for the pure metal) to steel gray (for metal that has impurities in

it). Tungsten can be used as a pure metal or mixed with other metals to make

alloys. Tungsten alloys tend to be strong and flexible, resist wear, and conduct

electricity well. Tungsten and its alloys are used as light bulb filaments, as

the part of x-ray tubes where x-rays are formed, as a catalyst to speed up

chemical reactions, as a component of steel in high-speed tools, in turbine

blades, in phonographic needles, as welding electrodes, as

gyroscope wheels, as counterbalance and fishing weights, in darts, and in golf

club components. They can be used in bullets (as a replacement for lead) and in

armor penetrators (as a substitute for depleted uranium). Chemical compounds of

tungsten are used for many purposes. Cemented tungsten carbide, a hard substance

used to make grinding wheels and cutting or forming tools, is the most common

tungsten compound. Other tungsten compounds are used in ceramic pigments, as

fire retardant coatings for fabrics, and as fade-resistant dyes for fabrics.

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1.2 What happens to tungsten when it enters the environment?

Tungsten occurs naturally in the environment, in minerals, but not as the pure

metal. As an element, tungsten can be neither created nor destroyed chemically,

although tungsten can change forms in the environment.

Tungsten is released into air as fine dust-like particles by weathering.

Emissions from hard metal industries also increase tungsten levels in air. The

amount of tungsten that has been measured in the ambient air is, in general,

less than 10 billionths of a gram per cubic meter (or parts per billion [ppb]).

Very small dust particles of tungsten in the air fall out onto surface water,

plant surfaces, and soil either by themselves or when rain or snow falls. These

tungsten particles eventually recycle back in the soil or in the bottoms of

lakes, rivers, and ponds, where they stay and mix with tungsten that is already

there.

Tungsten in water originates mainly from dissolution of tungsten from rocks

and soil that water runs over and through. Tungsten has not been detected in the

vast majority of surface water and groundwaters of the United States. Some

exceptions include areas near mines and natural deposits, and also in Churchill

County (City of Fallon), in Nevada, where tungsten has been detected in

municipal water and groundwater. Only a very small fraction of tungsten in water

originates from the settling of dust out of the air. Most tungsten products of

human-origin that enter waterways originate from industry discharges of waste

water. Tungsten in water may be in either soluble or insoluble forms. Insoluble

tungsten in water can settle to the bottom where it enters sediment. Some

insoluble tungsten compounds, however, can remain suspended in ocean water for

many years, requiring as long as 1,000 years to settle to the bottom.

Tungsten occurs naturally in soil as a mineral, or component of soil. It

occurs in amounts that vary over a wide range from less than 1 to as high as 83

thousandths of a gram per kilogram of soil. Another way to say this is that the

tungsten concentration ranges from 1 to 83 parts per million (ppm) in soil by

weight. Disposal of coal ash, incinerator ash, and industrial wastes may

increase the amount of tungsten in soil. A portion of tungsten in soil does not

dissolve in water, but remains bound and is not likely to move deeper into the

ground and enter groundwater. The remaining soluble portion may move deeper into

the ground and enter groundwater if the pH is greater than 7. In the

environment, chemical reactions can change the water-soluble tungsten compounds

into insoluble forms. In some cases, water-insoluble tungsten compounds can

change to soluble forms. In general, exposure to water-soluble tungsten

compounds in the environment will pose a greater threat to human

health than water-insoluble forms.

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1.3 How might I be exposed to tungsten?

You can be exposed to low levels of tungsten by breathing air, drinking water,

or eating food that contains tungsten. The average ambient concentration of

tungsten in air has been reported to be less than 10 nanograms in a cubic meter

of air (1 nanogram is 1 billionth of a gram). Cities have higher levels of

tungsten in the air because tungsten is released from industry. Tungsten has

been detected in municipal water from Fallon, Nevada. However, the amounts of

tungsten in drinking water are generally not known. This is probably because the

tungsten levels are lower than the laboratory methods are able to detect without

concentrating samples, or the laboratory does not measure for tungsten. The

amounts in foods are generally not known, possibly for the same reasons.

Tungsten in plants was either taken up by the plant or was attached to the plant

as a component of the soil. The concentration of tungsten in onions collected

from Denmark is 17 micrograms in a kilogram of

fresh vegetables. Although very limited data are available, exposure to

tungsten from air, drinking water, and food is expected to be insignificant.

In certain workplaces, you can be exposed to levels of tungsten in air that

are higher than background levels, which are very small or none. Exposures are

mostly in the form of tungsten metal or tungsten carbide. Occupational exposure

to tungsten occurs primarily at places where individuals use hard metals

containing tungsten or are engaged in the machining of these metals. This

includes the grinding (pointing) of tungsten metal welding electrodes prior to

use. Occupational exposure to tungsten carbide occurs during the machining of

tungsten carbide tools in the manufacturing process. The total number of

individuals occupationally exposed to tungsten or its compounds has been

estimated to be about 47,000.

Tungsten metal and metal alloys occur in consumer products such as

electronics, light bulb filaments, cemented tungsten carbide grinding wheels,

carbide tipped tools, and " green " bullets. No other consumer products or

products used in crafts, hobbies, or cottage industries were identified that

contain significant amounts of tungsten. It is unlikely that tungsten present in

consumer products poses a hazard. However, appropriate dust masks are

recommended for amateur craftsmen engaging in activities that may potentially

produce tungsten carbide dust (e.g., metal grinding).

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1.4 How can tungsten enter and leave my body?

Tungsten can enter your body from the food you eat or the water you drink,

from the air you breathe, or from contact with the skin. When you eat, drink,

breathe, or touch things containing tungsten compounds that can easily be

dissolved in water, tungsten enters your blood and is carried to all parts of

your body. Most of the tungsten that enters your blood is rapidly released from

your body in the urine. When you eat or drink things containing tungsten, much

of the tungsten passes through your digestive system and is released from your

body in the feces. When you breathe air that contains tungsten, some of the

tungsten moves quickly to your bloodstream from the lungs, and some of the

tungsten is cleared from your lungs in mucus that is either swallowed or spit

out. When you swallow tungsten that was first in your lungs, it passes through

your digestive system as if you had eaten it. Some enters your blood from your

digestive system and some passes out with the feces. A

small portion of the tungsten that enters your blood may spend some time in

bone, fingernails, or hair. Some of this tungsten is slowly eliminated from your

body through the urine and feces.

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1.5 How can tungsten affect my health?

Scientists use many tests to protect the public from harmful effects of toxic

chemicals and to find ways for treating persons who have been harmed.

One way to learn whether a chemical will harm people is to determine how the

body absorbs, uses, and releases the chemical. For some chemicals, animal

testing may be necessary. Animal testing may also help identify health effects

such as cancer or birth defects. Without laboratory animals, scientists would

lose a basic method for getting information needed to make wise decisions that

protect public health. Scientists have the responsibility to treat research

animals with care and compassion. Scientists must comply with strict animal care

guidelines because laws today protect the welfare of research animals.

You are not likely to experience any health effects that would be related to

exposure to tungsten or tungsten compounds. Tungsten compounds have caused

breathing problems and changed behavior in some animals given very large amounts

of tungsten compounds, but you are not likely to be exposed to amounts of

tungsten in the air you breathe or the food or water you take into your body

that would be large enough to cause similar effects. If you are a worker who has

inhaled tungsten heavy metal dust, your exposure would help determine if health

effects similar to those seen in animals might occur.

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1.6 How can tungsten affect children?

This section discusses potential health effects in humans from exposures

during the period from conception to maturity at 18 years of age.

Children could be affected in the same ways as adults. In adult animals, very

large amounts of tungsten compounds have been shown to cause breathing problems

and changes in behavior. However, it is not likely that children would be

exposed to amounts of tungsten in the air they breathe or the food or water they

consume that would be large enough to cause effects similar to those that were

seen in the animals. Animal studies have shown that tungsten in the blood of a

pregnant mother can enter the blood of a fetus in the womb. Studies in dairy

cows have shown that tungsten may also enter the milk. There is no information

to suggest that the effects seen in animals could not occur in humans. We do not

know whether unborn babies, babies, and children might differ from adults in

their susceptibility to health effects from exposure to tungsten or tungsten

compounds.

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1.7 How can families reduce the risk of exposure to tungsten?

If your doctor finds that you have been exposed to substantial amounts of

tungsten, ask whether your children might also have been exposed. Your doctor

might need to ask your state health department to investigate.

Children living near waste sites containing tungsten are likely to be exposed

to higher environmental levels of tungsten through breathing contaminated air,

drinking contaminated water, touching soil, and eating contaminated soil.

Children sometimes eat dirt, which should be discouraged. Parents should

supervise to see that children wash their hands frequently and before eating.

Parents should consult their family physicians about whether (and how)

hand-to-mouth behaviors in their children might be discouraged. If your

community's drinking water has been reported to contain elevated levels of

tungsten, you should take advantage of alternative water sources such as bottled

water for drinking. Some children may be exposed to tungsten by contact with a

family member who works in a facility using tungsten or who works with tungsten

carbide grinding wheels. If you work at a facility that uses tungsten or have

tungsten dust on your clothes, change your clothes and clean your

hair and skin before leaving your job or work site and returning home. Do not

bring objects home such as work tools that may be contaminated with tungsten.

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1.8 Is there a medical test to determine whether I have been exposed to

tungsten?

Medical tests exist that can determine whether your body fluids contain high

levels of tungsten. Samples of blood or feces can be collected in a doctor's

office and sent to a laboratory that can measure tungsten levels. It is easier

for most laboratories to measure tungsten in blood than in feces. The presence

of high levels of tungsten in the feces can mean recent high tungsten exposure.

High levels of tungsten in the blood can mean high tungsten consumption and/or

high exposure. High tungsten levels in blood or feces reflect the level of

exposure to tungsten. Measuring tungsten levels in urine and saliva also may

provide information about tungsten exposure. Tests to measure tungsten in hair

may provide information on long-term tungsten exposure.

top

1.9 What recommendations has the federal government made to protect human

health?

The federal government develops regulations and recommendations to protect

public health. Regulations can be enforced by law. The EPA, the Occupational

Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), and the Food and Drug Administration

(FDA) are some federal agencies that develop regulations for toxic substances.

Recommendations provide valuable guidelines to protect public health, but cannot

be enforced by law. The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR)

and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) are two

federal organizations that develop recommendations for toxic substances.

Regulations and recommendations can be expressed as " not-to-exceed " levels,

that is, levels of a toxic substance in air, water, soil, or food that do not

exceed a critical value that is usually based on levels that affect animals;

they are then adjusted to levels that will help protect humans. Sometimes these

not-to-exceed levels differ among federal organizations because they used

different exposure times (an 8-hour workday or a 24-hour day), different animal

studies, or other factors.

Recommendations and regulations are also updated periodically as more

information becomes available. For the most current information, check with the

federal agency or organization that provides it. Some regulations and

recommendations for tungsten include the following:

There are few guidelines for tungsten and tungsten compounds. For tungsten and

insoluble tungsten compounds, NIOSH has established a recommended exposure limit

(REL; 10-hour time weighted average) of 5 mg/m³ and a short-term exposure limit

(STEL; 15-minute time weighted average) of 10 mg/m³. OSHA has established

permissible exposure limits (PELs; 8-hour time weighted average) for tungsten of

5 mg/m³ (insoluble compounds) and 1 mg/m³ (soluble compounds) for construction

and shipyard industries.

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1.10 Where can I get more information?

If you have any more questions or concerns, please contact your community or

state health or environmental quality department or:

Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry

Division of Toxicology and Environmental Medicine

1600 Clifton Road NE, Mailstop F-32

Atlanta, GA 30333

Phone: 1-800-CDC-INFO • 888-232-6348 (TTY)

Email: cdcinfo@... Information line and technical assistance:

Phone: 888-422-8737

FAX: (770)-488-4178 ATSDR can also tell you the location of occupational and

environmental health clinics. These clinics specialize in recognizing,

evaluating, and treating illnesses resulting from exposure to hazardous

substances.

To order toxicological profiles, contact:

National Technical Information Service

5285 Port Royal Road

Springfield, VA 22161

Phone: 800-553-6847 or 703-605-6000 top

References

Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR). 2005. Toxicological

profile for Tungsten. Atlanta, GA: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,

Public Health Service.

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This page was updated on 11/06/2006

Crystal <crystalam_@...> wrote:

I had both my daughter and my hair tested, and I was hoping to get

help or opinions on the results. They were not what I expected! I

thought we were going to see mercury because my mom had high mercury,

but we didn't. I know there's also some sort of counting rule about

that? I don't know where we might have gotten the high levels of the

other stuff though (where it came from). Nor do I know the best way

to get rid of them (from our environment and our bodies). The

exception is the Uranium I know is radon and we should have our home

tested. The Bismuth that Catey has is supposed to not be toxic, but

can cause constipation which Catey's always struggled with (I read it

can be used as sauder for water pipes, but we do have a reverse

osmosis filter). Ok here we go:

Catey's results:

Aluminum 10.6 normal ref: <= 17.3

Antimony .130 ext high ref: <=.016

Arsenic .039 normal ref: <=.080

Barium .15 low norm ref: <= 1.70

Bismuth .843 very high ref: <= .178

Cadmium .021 normal/high ref: <= .022

Gadolinium .0009 slight high ref: <= .0005

Gallium .0030 normal ref: <= .0190

Germanium <dl ref: <= .128

Lead .221 normal ref: <= .700

Mercury .12 normal ref: <= 1..32

Nickel .50 high normal ref: <= .55

Palladium <dl ref: <= .015

Platnium <dl ref: <= .0004

Rhodium <dl ref: <= .0005

Tellurium <dl ref: <= .0037

Thalium <dl ref: <= .0004

Thorium .0602 normal ref: <= .0749

Tin .572 ext high ref: <= .149

Tungsten .0065 ext high ref: <= .0014

Uranium .0662 ext high ref: <= .0057

Copper 14 normal ref: 8 - 136

Crystal's results

Aluminum 15.2 normal

Antimony .009 normal

Arsenic .038 normal

Barium .29 normal

Bismuth .251 low high

Cadmium .005 normal

Gadolinium <dl

Gallium .0029 normal

Germanium <dl

Lead .177 normal

Mercury .10 normal

Nickel .21 normal

Palladium <dl

Platinum .0005 low high (I don't have platinum jewelery)

Rhodium .0003 normal

Tellurium <dl

Thallium <dl

Thorium .0687 normal

Tin .040 normal (Catey's is very high)

Tungsten .0037 v. very high

Uranium .1074 v. Ext high

Copper 38

Both of them were the Genova Diagnostics (used to be Great Smokies)

Toxic Element Exposure Profile, Hair analysis.

We have a clay bath I had planned on using, would it be good for

these? What suggestions do you have?

Thanks so much for any input!!!!

Crystal

Mom to Catey, 2 yrs 4 months, Verbal Apraxia (moderate)

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Crystal <crystalam_@...> wrote:

I had both my daughter and my hair tested, and I was hoping to get

help or opinions on the results. They were not what I expected! I

thought we were going to see mercury because my mom had high mercury,

but we didn't. I know there's also some sort of counting rule about

that? I don't know where we might have gotten the high levels of the

other stuff though (where it came from). Nor do I know the best way

to get rid of them (from our environment and our bodies). The

exception is the Uranium I know is radon and we should have our home

tested. The Bismuth that Catey has is supposed to not be toxic, but

can cause constipation which Catey's always struggled with (I read it

can be used as sauder for water pipes, but we do have a reverse

osmosis filter). Ok here we go:

Catey's results:

Aluminum 10.6 normal ref: <= 17.3

Antimony .130 ext high ref: <=.016

Arsenic .039 normal ref: <=.080

Barium .15 low norm ref: <= 1.70

Bismuth .843 very high ref: <= .178

Cadmium .021 normal/high ref: <= .022

Gadolinium .0009 slight high ref: <= .0005

Gallium .0030 normal ref: <= .0190

Germanium <dl ref: <= .128

Lead .221 normal ref: <= .700

Mercury .12 normal ref: <= 1..32

Nickel .50 high normal ref: <= .55

Palladium <dl ref: <= .015

Platnium <dl ref: <= .0004

Rhodium <dl ref: <= .0005

Tellurium <dl ref: <= .0037

Thalium <dl ref: <= .0004

Thorium .0602 normal ref: <= .0749

Tin .572 ext high ref: <= .149

Tungsten .0065 ext high ref: <= .0014

Uranium .0662 ext high ref: <= .0057

Copper 14 normal ref: 8 - 136

Crystal's results

Aluminum 15.2 normal

Antimony .009 normal

Arsenic .038 normal

Barium .29 normal

Bismuth .251 low high

Cadmium .005 normal

Gadolinium <dl

Gallium .0029 normal

Germanium <dl

Lead .177 normal

Mercury .10 normal

Nickel .21 normal

Palladium <dl

Platinum .0005 low high (I don't have platinum jewelery)

Rhodium .0003 normal

Tellurium <dl

Thallium <dl

Thorium .0687 normal

Tin .040 normal (Catey's is very high)

Tungsten .0037 v. very high

Uranium .1074 v. Ext high

Copper 38

Both of them were the Genova Diagnostics (used to be Great Smokies)

Toxic Element Exposure Profile, Hair analysis.

We have a clay bath I had planned on using, would it be good for

these? What suggestions do you have?

Thanks so much for any input!!!!

Crystal

Mom to Catey, 2 yrs 4 months, Verbal Apraxia (moderate)

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Hi ,

What does a current hair test look like? You posted before that you used

improper chelation, have you switched to a safer protocol? At the time of the

hair test you posted did you have amalgams? What I think of the hair test you

posted (I didn't pay attention to the date on it) is that if you haven't had a

recent one it might make sense to do so. I also think you should (continue to)

chelate using Andy's protocol providing you have no current sources of exposure.

S S

Hair Test results.

Posted by: " kastout24 " kastout24@... kastout24

Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:12 pm (PST)

Hey everybody,

Just posting to let you know I put up my hair test results.. Or i

think i did.. My computer was acting crazy so I'm not sure if i double

posted, or posted at all.

It shows high mercury but curious as to what you guys thought of it.

this was before I did the DMPS and DMSA.

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,

I have not had a current hair test... That test was

from 2006.. After that I did DMPS and DMSA on 3 days

on 11 days off but without doing those drugs every

certain amount of hours... and i would stop at night

as well.

I don't have amalgams. They believe my exposure was

from tuna fish, which I ate a ton of growing up. I

also have had vaccinations so who knows if that played

a part too.

As for now, i just started ALA 12.5 mg and did one

round. I noticed maybe a little nuerological stuff

like burning patches on forearms and such but nothing

major at all.

What I was curious about was the fact that my mercury

was high.. when i've read a lot of people don't show

they are mercury toxic... if that is the case, why do

i?

thanks for the reply

scott

ps. when doing DMPS and DMSA like i did, 3pills a day

for 3 days, then 11 days off, without using Andy's

protocol.. would that redistribute mercury or would

that actually get some out of my body? just curious

if the prior treatments i did were affective at all?

just for your info.. the DMPS was 170mg and the DMSA

was 250mg.

--- Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Hi ,

> What does a current hair test look like? You posted

> before that you used improper chelation, have you

> switched to a safer protocol? At the time of the

> hair test you posted did you have amalgams? What I

> think of the hair test you posted (I didn't pay

> attention to the date on it) is that if you haven't

> had a recent one it might make sense to do so. I

> also think you should (continue to) chelate using

> Andy's protocol providing you have no current

> sources of exposure.

> S S

>

> Hair Test results.

> Posted by: " kastout24 " kastout24@... kastout24

>

> Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:12 pm (PST)

>

> Hey everybody,

>

> Just posting to let you know I put up my hair test

> results.. Or i

> think i did.. My computer was acting crazy so I'm

> not sure if i double

> posted, or posted at all.

>

> It shows high mercury but curious as to what you

> guys thought of it.

> this was before I did the DMPS and DMSA.

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Can you upload the test result file so we can check it. We need all

the reference ranges and such.

>

> Hi All,

>

>

>

> Please if you have a chance, look at this for me. This is a mock

up of 's Hair test results from Doctors Data. Test Date

09/07/2007. is 5 yo and is in a typical KG class w an aid. His

most significant issue is being able to stay on task. They recently

collected data on him and he averages a need for a reminder at a

rate of about 1/min to stay on task. These are not always verbal

reminders sometimes a look or a tap will do but he is very

distractable.

>

>

>

> This is the first hair test where we are seeing mercury. It was

done after a summer where we were taking a break from chelation and

seeing if an antiviral protocol would help. We used valtrex and to

cover any potential yeast issues diflucan for 8 weeks. NO RESPONSE

good or bad.

>

>

>

> FWIW this was the second NO response to antiviral trial we have

done. Last winter we tried this too. .

>

>

>

> It is also the worst hair test we have ever had in essential

elements and the only test that has ever definitively met the AC

counting rules. And the only test where elements were in the 97.5%.

The same test a year ago had only 5 elements in the top yellow bar

and only two in the bottom yellow bar. I don't know if the AC

counting rules apply if you are super supplementing. He has been on

the same mineral supplement for the past two years. We are sending

off another ION panel to see what they suggest for supplements but

it looks to me like we may be over supplementing essential elements.

At least I have stopped the mineral supplement that has boron in it.

We do not supplement copper or iron and we do supplement Zinc.

>

>

>

> We sent a glutathione level off at the same time. His intrinsic

glutathione level was > 1100 so he is making his own glutathione

now. YEAH !!!!!!

>

>

>

> We started an adrenal support supplement yesterday after our Dr

visit based on persistently dilated pupils in the afternoon, and

mild irritable mood in the afternoon. (He also had the pupil fatigue

response to light).

>

>

>

> After 2 ½ years of DAN!

>

>

>

> Here are the results: Toxic

Elements

>

>

>

>

68% 95%

>

>

> Result

> Ref Range

>

>

>

>

> Aluminum

> 22

> <8

>

>

>

>

> Antimony

> 0.2

> <0.066

>

>

>

>

> Arsenic

> 0.28

> <0.08

>

>

>

>

> Beryllium

> <0.01

> <0.02

>

>

>

>

> Bismuth

> 0.25

> <2.0

>

>

>

>

> Cadmium

> 0.37

> <0.15

>

>

>

>

> Lead

> 4.3

> <1.0

>

>

>

>

> Mercury

> 0.39

> <0.40

>

>

>

>

> Platinum

> <0.003

> <0.005

>

>

>

>

> Thallium

> <0.001

> <0.010

>

>

>

>

> Thorium

> 0.002

> <0.005

>

>

>

>

> Uranium

> 0.12

> <0.060

>

>

>

>

> Nickel

> 0.29

> <0.40

>

>

>

>

> Silver

> 0.41

> <0.20

>

>

>

>

> Tin

> 1.4

> <0.30

>

>

>

>

> Titanium

> 0.92

> <1.0

>

>

>

>

> Total Toxic Representation

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Essential Elements

>

>

> Result

> Ref

> 2.5

> 16

>

> 50

>

> 84

> 97.5

>

> Calcium

> 178

> 125-370

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Magnesium

> 52

> 12-30

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sodium

> 489

> 12-90

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Potassium

> 35

> 12-40

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Copper

> 25

> 8.0-16

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Zinc

> 91

> 100-190

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Manganese

> 0.43

> 0.20-0.55

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Chromium

> 0.52

> 0.26-0.50

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vanadium

> 0.19

> 0.03-0.10

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Molybdenum

> 0.16

> 0.05-0.13

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Boron

> 0.91

> 0.6-4.0

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Iodine

> 0.93

> 0.25-1.3

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Lithium

> 0.010

> 0.007-0.023

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Phosphorus

> 194

> 160-250

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Selenium

> 1.5

> 0.95-1.7

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Strontium

> 0.37

> 0.16-1.0

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Sulfur

> 49600

> 45500-53000

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Barium

> 0.43

> 0.16-0.8

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Cobalt

> 0.021

> 0.013-0.035

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Iron

> 28

> 8-19

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Germanium

> 0.040

> 0.045-0.065

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Rubidium

> 0.028

> 0.016-0.18

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Zirconium

> 1.1

> 0.040-1.0

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I have a gob of tests to send off. The usual chemistry stuff, TSH

and free T 3 and then the ION panel. We resumed chelation with 25mg

ALA and 25mg DMSA after the hair test so we are again chelating with

the AC protocol every weekend.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much. I will try to figure out how to put the file on here.He has

exactly 11 that fall in the white and green. He has 8 that are on the shorter

side, the other 3 extend towards the yellow more

[ ] Re: Hair test results

I do but it would be more helpful if I had the color version that DDI

sends you. It can be hard to tell without actually looking at the

bars. I have his book on Hair Test interpretation.

But from what I can tell:

6 over 50%....five or less indicates toxicity..six is suspicious

according to the book.

I can't tell for rule 4, as far as which ones have a short line in the

middle white/green section. Only count the short ones, ones not very

elevated or very low. These should be 11 or less. If not...you would

meet this rule.

If you met this rule..then toxic. If you were very close on this rule

also as in you had 10 or less, or you had 12 or less...being close on

two or more rules means mineral transport is deranged and mercury is

there.

>

> reposting... Could use and would love some help. From what I have

> read, he shows for two of the three rules? Not sure I am reading it

> correctly. Does anyone have experience in reading hair test?

>

> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ======

> aluminum 7.7 < 8.0 green ( almost yellow )

> antimony .075 < .006 yellow

> arsenic .17 <.080 yellow

> beryllium <.01 <.020

> bismuth .o14 <.20 green

> cadmium .o41 <.15 green

> lead 1.0 <1.0 green/yellow line

> mercury <.03 <.40

> platinum <.003 <.005

> thallium <.001 <.010

> thorium <.001 <.005

> uranium .002 <0.060 green

> nickel .15 <0.40 green

> silver .19 <.20 green

> tin .49 <.30 yellow

> titanium 1.1 <1.0 yellow

>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color under/over 50%

> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===

> Calcium 50 125-137 red under

> Magnesium 14 12-30 green under

> Sodium 8 12-90 yellow under

> Potassium 16 12-40 green under

> Copper 12 8.0-16 green over

> Zinc 130 100-190 white exact 50 %

> Manganese .19 .20-.55 yellow under

> Chromium .51 .26-.50 yellow over

> Vanadium .067 .030-.10 green over

> Molybdenum .063 .050-.13 green under

> Boron .60 .60-4.0 green under

> Iodine .93 .25-1.3 green over

> Lithium <.004 .007-0.023 red under

> Phosphorus 156 160-250 yellow under

> Selenium .65 .95-1.7 yellow under

> Strontium .02 .16-1.0 red under

> Sulfur 47600 45500-53000 green under

> Barium .08 .16-.80 yellow under

> Cobalt .008 .013-.035 yellow under

> Iron 12 8.0-19 white over

> Germanium .039 .045-.065 yellow under

> Rubidium .011 .016-.018 yellow under

> Zirconium .47 .040-1.0 green over

>

> I am very complexed as he eats like a horse and all good/healthy

> foods. Seems very low in many minerals

>

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>

> Thanks so much. I will try to figure out how to put the file on here.He has

exactly 11

that fall in the white and green.

This meets one of the rules given in the book and thus indicates a very high

probabilty of

mercury problems.

>He has 8 that are on the shorter side, the other 3 extend towards the yellow

more

>

>