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HELLO- I JUST HAVE AN IDEA, WHY DONT THE ONES WHO FEEL THE NEED TO

SUPPORT EACH OTHER ON THESE POLITICAL VIEWS SEND THIER MAIL PRIVATE

AND THAT WAY ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DONT FEEL COMF. W/ THE SUBJECT DONT

HAVE TO BE PART OF IT! I DONT MIND HEARING LIL STORIES OF FUNNY OR

CRAZY THINGS THAT MIGHT OF HAPPEND TO SOMEONE BUT A REGULAR CONV.

EVERY DAY ON THE WAR TURNS THIS GROUP INTO SOMETHING ELSE. i FOUND

MYSELF TURNING MY MAIL FROM ANOTHER GROUP BACK ON WHEN ALL THIS WAR

TALK GOT HEAVY. I HAD TURNED IT OFF WHEN I FELT I FIT IN MOST W/ CF

PARENTS BUT NOW IM NOT SURE THANKS KARI- (NEW TO CF AND HERE TO LEARN

ALL ABOUT CF AND SUPPORT AND GET SUPPORT)

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Where've I been?

I delete alot, and read pretty fast, but I must've missed a bunch. I

don't recall anything like this happening. Am I on the same list? I

know conncoll has gotten a bit over-opinionated lately, but I haven't

seen any of this on cfparents.

Am I the only one who has no idea what is being referred to here?

I've been up for 48+ hours, working on an impossible deadline. Maybe

I'm just in a fog.

Anyway, I am sorry that anyone feels the need to leave, but we all

have to make those choices now and then.

I wish you all a healthy day.

Lenora

>I for one agree with maria. It is not appropriate to discuss one's personal

>political opinions. That is just what they are. There are more appropriate

>venues for that type discussion and/or propaganda spreading. There are some

>people on this list who seem to feel it is necessary to spread

> " disinformation/propaganda " and encourage others to believe it. I do not see

>how discussing politics or leaders being right or wrong is relevent to cf

>parents. There are too many hidden agendas here. It seems to be a very

>selfish and narrow minded behavior on part of a few who know very little

>regarding the subject. Stick to something that you know more about or change

>the list name, because it borders on false advertisement. I do not feel

>comfortable being part of this list considering the views and statements made

>by a person on this list that seemed to air a tad on the threatening side.

>That is not acceptable in any forum. You have certainly alienated a mother

>who wants a cure for cf for everyone, everywhere. I want off of this " list "

> Laurie

>

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In a message dated 3/21/2003 3:09:13 PM Central Standard Time, JKDORA@...

writes:

> Just another idea - lets either talk about it or not talk about it, but lets

>

> stop talking about talking about it!!!!!

>

haha ;)

maybe someone should start another board... cf as the minor and other as the

major ...... hmmm

Jenn

" do as the potato does.......... use your eyes for only growing "

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I am with your Lenora. No idea where this is coming from. I don't

receive the emails as I access these messages through a website so I

pick and choose what I want to read and I don't get inundated with

emails. I have not a clue where this " propaganda " is coming from. I

guess wartime makes others a little more sensitive.

> Where've I been?

> I delete alot, and read pretty fast, but I must've missed a bunch.

I

> don't recall anything like this happening. Am I on the same list? I

> know conncoll has gotten a bit over-opinionated lately, but I

haven't

> seen any of this on cfparents.

> Am I the only one who has no idea what is being referred to here?

> I've been up for 48+ hours, working on an impossible deadline.

Maybe

> I'm just in a fog.

> Anyway, I am sorry that anyone feels the need to leave, but we all

> have to make those choices now and then.

> I wish you all a healthy day.

> Lenora

>

>

> >I for one agree with maria. It is not appropriate to discuss

one's personal

> >political opinions. That is just what they are. There are more

appropriate

> >venues for that type discussion and/or propaganda spreading.

There are some

> >people on this list who seem to feel it is necessary to spread

> > " disinformation/propaganda " and encourage others to believe it. I

do not see

> >how discussing politics or leaders being right or wrong is

relevent to cf

> >parents. There are too many hidden agendas here. It seems to be

a very

> >selfish and narrow minded behavior on part of a few who know very

little

> >regarding the subject. Stick to something that you know more

about or change

> >the list name, because it borders on false advertisement. I do

not feel

> >comfortable being part of this list considering the views and

statements made

> >by a person on this list that seemed to air a tad on the

threatening side.

> >That is not acceptable in any forum. You have certainly

alienated a mother

> >who wants a cure for cf for everyone, everywhere. I want off of

this " list "

> > Laurie

> >

> >

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Don't feel left out! I'm the list owner and I don't even know what

that post was about. Maybe wires got crossed over which list it was,

or maybe she received a private email from someone and thought it was

from cfparents? Maybe just offended by the whole subject? I have no

idea.

I know I don't have any political agenda here. I'm pretty sure

Torsten doesn't spend hours on list maintenance just so he has

someplace to wave political opinions. (Especially since he's holding

his tongue about the war.) I can't speak for the other 600+ people

on this list, though. I thought we were keeping it pretty civil.

Perhaps war is too hot a topic for us to touch here. We are all

about support, after all. No point in discussing our political

differences. We are here because of the one thing that we all have

in common, cystic fibrosis, not because of the many, many things we

disagree on.

~

mommy of 3, 1 with cf

> Where've I been?

> I delete alot, and read pretty fast, but I must've missed a bunch.

I

> don't recall anything like this happening. Am I on the same list? I

> know conncoll has gotten a bit over-opinionated lately, but I

haven't

> seen any of this on cfparents.

> Am I the only one who has no idea what is being referred to here?

> I've been up for 48+ hours, working on an impossible deadline.

Maybe

> I'm just in a fog.

> Anyway, I am sorry that anyone feels the need to leave, but we all

> have to make those choices now and then.

> I wish you all a healthy day.

> Lenora

>

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Ok, haven't we covered this?

If you are posting political/war opinions please say so in the subject so those

who don't care to read them can just delete them.

I haven't posted my opinion and probably won't. I have not seen anything

" threatening " here. I have read about people who are concerned with the

situation because of loved ones who are part of their CF families are in the

armed forces. Mostly they are torn between supporting them in their endeavors

and being worried about them. That's about it.

Maybe I missed something too.

Can we just follow the above solution and get away from the complaints

already?

Re: ? " list " agenda?

I am with your Lenora. No idea where this is coming from. I don't

receive the emails as I access these messages through a website so I

pick and choose what I want to read and I don't get inundated with

emails. I have not a clue where this " propaganda " is coming from. I

guess wartime makes others a little more sensitive.

> Where've I been?

> I delete alot, and read pretty fast, but I must've missed a bunch.

I

> don't recall anything like this happening. Am I on the same list? I

> know conncoll has gotten a bit over-opinionated lately, but I

haven't

> seen any of this on cfparents.

> Am I the only one who has no idea what is being referred to here?

> I've been up for 48+ hours, working on an impossible deadline.

Maybe

> I'm just in a fog.

> Anyway, I am sorry that anyone feels the need to leave, but we all

> have to make those choices now and then.

> I wish you all a healthy day.

> Lenora

>

>

> >I for one agree with maria. It is not appropriate to discuss

one's personal

> >political opinions. That is just what they are. There are more

appropriate

> >venues for that type discussion and/or propaganda spreading.

There are some

> >people on this list who seem to feel it is necessary to spread

> > " disinformation/propaganda " and encourage others to believe it. I

do not see

> >how discussing politics or leaders being right or wrong is

relevent to cf

> >parents. There are too many hidden agendas here. It seems to be

a very

> >selfish and narrow minded behavior on part of a few who know very

little

> >regarding the subject. Stick to something that you know more

about or change

> >the list name, because it borders on false advertisement. I do

not feel

> >comfortable being part of this list considering the views and

statements made

> >by a person on this list that seemed to air a tad on the

threatening side.

> >That is not acceptable in any forum. You have certainly

alienated a mother

> >who wants a cure for cf for everyone, everywhere. I want off of

this " list "

> > Laurie

> >

> >

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Amen!

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> Just another idea - lets either talk about it or not talk about it, but

lets

> stop talking about talking about it!!!!!

>

>

>

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---YES!! I agree I dont think anyone minds hearing from others whos

family is away fighting to protect us and keep us safe. Its just when

the talk starts getting heated and falling away from the HEART of the

topic it gets alittle overwellming, (YA KNOW?) Like I said before

lets either talk about it or not but lets stop talking about talking

about it. I dont think any of us are here to offend each other right?

well thats enough from me- and just know my thoughts and ******* are

w/ all the men and women out there fighting for a better place for my

family and every one elses out there! One more thing dureing Desert

storm we did this hands across america, does any one know of one

happening this war?- Thanks Kari

In cfparents , M Law <maria_law@j...> wrote:

> I have not seen anything that has offended me either but not much

offends

> me. I want to make it clear that I do not and have never stated

that I

> object to anyone discussing issues about the war that affects their

> lives, especially those with loved ones putting their lives on the

line.

> I only object to discussing political opinions about the war. I

have no

> problems with discussing peoples frustations over it and how it

affects

> their lives. I just hate political discussions in which the only

agenda

> is airing everyone's opinions. I feel the same way with the pro-

life and

> pro-choice debate or peoples views on religion. I have nothing to

gain

> from knowing that someone's opinions differ from mine on the

subject.

> The core of what I don't like is I don't like people fighting and by

> bringing this up, I have started one. I just don't like the

controversy

> that occurs when these type of subjects are discussed. Anyway, I'm

not

> going to say anything else on the subject.

>

> maria - mom to Emma 2 1/2 years old w/cf and Isabelle 4 1/2 years

old

> wo/cf

>

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lenora,

you're so cute!

love,

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> >

> >

> >> Just another idea - lets either talk about it or not talk about it,

but

> >lets

> >> stop talking about talking about it!!!!!

> >>

> >>

> >>

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