Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Jan, I felt the same way when the second sweat test came back positive for my daughter 11 years ago, she will be 16 next month. It was the last shred of hope that she may not have cf. As far as the persistent cough. I can't count how many bottles of phenagren with codine, or some sort of Tussinex she has gone through. As another post said, they really need their sleep and they need calories for better uses than to cough all night. Ask your cf doctor, I wouldn't use OTC products unless he says too. We're all here for you, good luck! Lorenzen, mom of , almost 16 wcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Jan, I am so sorry!! But at least now you know how to treat his symptoms. He need to get a throat culture to see if he has psuedomonas. Once we did and got treatment for it the cough went away. You know you have a lot of support her when you need it. There are lots and lots of shoulders to cry on here!! Deb A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Aw, Jan. I'm so sorry you have that last shred of hope taken away. But at least you know for sure now and can move forward. Wish I were there to give you a big hug. About the dry, nonproductive cough, been there done that with . His doctor approved a cough suppressant. He said as long as it was a nonproductive-tickle-at-the-back-of-the-throat-persistant cough, then there was absolutely no reason for to lose sleep. In fact, losing sleep and burning calories from coughing was only adding to the harm. So he prescribed some liquid med -- I remember it was yellow and started with a T. Tussin maybe? It was a prescription, not OTC. It worked like a charm and was so much better than having cough, cough, cough until he was wet with perspiration and vomiting on the sheets and blankets in the middle of the night. And really, if you're giving the Benedryl, which can dry secretions, you're probably better off doing the cough suppressant, which may not contain something that dries secretions. Kim 's test results have come back and he does have another CF mutation. I cried a little on the phone and the doctor asked me if I was surprised. I said no - just disappointed. Did he expect I would jump for joy? BTW, the last week has been unable to sleep most of the night because of his cough. It is a sinus drainage type cough, dry and non productive. Since they can't take cough syrup, what can be done to alleviate the tickle that keeps him coughing? Tonight we are trying a dose of Benedryl but it is not helping. jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 I know exactly what you are going through. When the radiologist told me that her x-rays from her lungs looked like CF, I probably had a blanked stare in my face, not my baby!!!. It was a week before we got to the hospital and sweat test, etc, were done. That was exactly a year ago this week. The good news is that he is now going to be treated right and science is non stopping, we have to beat CF. About the cough, do get something with codeine and always keep some at home. He needs to rest at night so he can get better soon. A word of caution never give him any cough suppressant with codeine without food, a gets a horrible, horrible stomach ache. Love to you and your family, mom of a 9 wcf, Venanzio 6 nocf, Pepe 3 nocf > 's test results have come back and he does have another CF > mutation. I cried a little on the phone and the doctor asked me if I > was surprised. I said no - just disappointed. Did he expect I would > jump for joy? > > BTW, the last week has been unable to sleep most of the night > because of his cough. It is a sinus drainage type cough, dry and non > productive. Since they can't take cough syrup, what can be done to > alleviate the tickle that keeps him coughing? Tonight we are trying a > dose of Benedryl but it is not helping. > > jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 I totally understand that disappointment. In fact, I felt it all over again when I read your post. I am sorry, but glad you are with us. Also, when checking about the cough, just to be safe, have the doctors listen closely for wheezing. was diagnosed with asthma after a bout of nighttime coughing. Probably it is just the sinus drainage. I hope it passes quickly. Thoughts and prayers are with you. Lenora >'s test results have come back and he does have another CF >mutation. I cried a little on the phone and the doctor asked me if I >was surprised. I said no - just disappointed. Did he expect I would >jump for joy? > > BTW, the last week has been unable to sleep most of the night >because of his cough. It is a sinus drainage type cough, dry and non >productive. Since they can't take cough syrup, what can be done to >alleviate the tickle that keeps him coughing? Tonight we are trying a >dose of Benedryl but it is not helping. > > jan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 I have been told it is OK in situations like this to give a cough suppressant. If the OTC kind doesn't work, you can plead to the docs for some REAL cough syrup with codiene. Explain the situation and that this cough is doing no one any good and you all need your sleep. Most docs will give it to you on the condition you use it only when REALLY needed. Just a suggestion, take it or leave it. Sorry to hear he does have another rare mutation. We () had the Ambry test too and she still has one df 508 and one unknown. We KNOW she has cf but she just must have a super rare mutation. When I got the news they still didn't find her other mutation I was not happy. But I'm sorry for you since you were wishing it would go the other way. love, M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Hey Bren, that is exactly what several CF moms in our support group said. they didn't want everyone to just go out & buy OTC cough syrup , they wanted to tell & know from parents what they were given child though. It makes good sense. THEY -we all--NEED the sleep as well as the medicine. It sure helps all else fall in proper place. Your so wise....thanks , LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV Re: Ambry Results In I have been told it is OK in situations like this to give a cough suppressant. If the OTC kind doesn't work, you can plead to the docs for some REAL cough syrup with codiene. Explain the situation and that this cough is doing no one any good and you all need your sleep. Most docs will give it to you on the condition you use it only when REALLY needed. Just a suggestion, take it or leave it. Sorry to hear he does have another rare mutation. We () had the Ambry test too and she still has one df 508 and one unknown. We KNOW she has cf but she just must have a super rare mutation. When I got the news they still didn't find her other mutation I was not happy. But I'm sorry for you since you were wishing it would go the other way. love, M ------------------------------------------- The opinions and information exchanged on this list should IN NO WAY be construed as medical advice. PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR TREATMENTS. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Jan, I'm sorry you got the disappointing news. I think everyone feels like that when the CF Dx is confirmed (I know I did when 's 2nd sweat test came back) About the cough, the benadryl probably won't help and I was told not to give it to by the CF clinic -I think something about the antihistamines was the reason but it was a long time ago. I would call and ask CF clinic. Ambry Results In 's test results have come back and he does have another CF mutation. I cried a little on the phone and the doctor asked me if I was surprised. I said no - just disappointed. Did he expect I would jump for joy? BTW, the last week has been unable to sleep most of the night because of his cough. It is a sinus drainage type cough, dry and non productive. Since they can't take cough syrup, what can be done to alleviate the tickle that keeps him coughing? Tonight we are trying a dose of Benedryl but it is not helping. jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 > About the cough, the benadryl probably won't help and I was told not to give it to by the CF clinic -I think something about the antihistamines was the reason but it was a long time ago. I would call and ask CF clinic. Actually the CF doctor suggested it. Didn't really work though jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Jan, Please, let me know what works because is on Claritin now for a weird dry little cough. It's not keeping us up nights but It's driving us crazy! Claritin doesn't seem to be doing much for it. Re: Ambry Results In > About the cough, the benadryl probably won't help and I was told not to give it to by the CF clinic -I think something about the antihistamines was the reason but it was a long time ago. I would call and ask CF clinic. Actually the CF doctor suggested it. Didn't really work though jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Maybe try " propping her up " when she sleeps so that the congestion is not remaining in her chest. We did that with my daughter and it seemed to work after a few days. Parent of 11yo wcf Re: Ambry Results In > About the cough, the benadryl probably won't help and I was told not to give it to by the CF clinic -I think something about the antihistamines was the reason but it was a long time ago. I would call and ask CF clinic. Actually the CF doctor suggested it. Didn't really work though jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 > Maybe try " propping her up " when she sleeps so that the congestion is not remaining in her chest. We did that with my daughter and it seemed to work after a few days. I tried that the first thing. Sort of helped for a minute or so ;- ). The benedryl didn't seem to do much. Putting an ice chip in his mouth helped but that's not too much good for going to sleep. The antibiotic he is on seems to have helped most. What is so frustrating is he never runs a temp with his sinus infections/allergies and we are seeing far less green gunk coming out of the nose with nasal lavage. Within several weeks off the antibiotics he will get another. ::sigh:: The coughing has stopped thank goodness - for now. jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Jan, Have you seen an ENT? Maybe he needs a sinus cleanout? Just a suggestion.. love, M Re: Ambry Results In > > > Maybe try " propping her up " when she sleeps so that the congestion > is not remaining in her chest. We did that with my daughter and it > seemed to work after a few days. > > I tried that the first thing. Sort of helped for a minute or so ;- > ). The benedryl didn't seem to do much. Putting an ice chip in his > mouth helped but that's not too much good for going to sleep. The > antibiotic he is on seems to have helped most. What is so frustrating > is he never runs a temp with his sinus infections/allergies and we > are seeing far less green gunk coming out of the nose with nasal > lavage. Within several weeks off the antibiotics he will get > another. ::sigh:: The coughing has stopped thank goodness - for now. > > jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 > Jan, > Have you seen an ENT? Maybe he needs a sinus cleanout? Just a suggestion.. > Thanks for thinking of us. He goes to an ENT every week for vacuuming. He has had two surgeries this year for nasal polyps. It's the nasal problems which led to the CF testing otherwise his pediatrician would never have given us the referral. The ENT gave us the nudge for getting some testing just to be safe. His sweat chloride tests always came back indeterminate. Turns out one of his mutations is a rare variant that usually tests in the indeterminate range. SO - it just goes to show children ought to have a full work up for CF regardless of indeterminate sweat chloride values. jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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