Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I spoke with a home inspector who tests for chemicals and asked this same question. He said that builders could use old sodder (sp?) for pipes and this could cause lead in your drinking water -- even in a new house like mine. RE: [ ] Lead poisioning If he's in school, have them test the water fountains for lead. What about the house you lived in when he was a baby? S S <p>Hi there<br> <br> Probably a daft question but have been going through my sons phoryphin <br> results again and realised that his lead is wayy higher than even the <br> mercury and also arsenic is high. Where would th lead come from. I <br> know the vaccines probably contributed to the mercury but we live in a <br> modern buid house with new plumbing etc. <br> <br> We recently carried out some building work and discovered that we had <br> to lay a methane and CO2 membrane on our foundation as there were high <br> readings in the ground.<br> <br> Would this cause any of the above metals to be high??<br> <br> many thanks <br> Mark <br> ____________-_________-_________-_________-________ Join Excite! - HYPERLINK " http://www.excite.com " http://www.excite.-com The most personalized portal on the Web! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Other very common sources of lead include: TOYS - lots of plastic items still contain some lead. I try to test them all and make sure (www.leadinspector.com <http://www.leadinspector.com/> has good test kits). INSULATED LUNCH bags very often contain lead (www.reusablebags.com <http://www.reusablebags.com/> has great alternatives) Bathtubs (if the house was older and fixtures are original) Water (like the other person mentioned - from school) Exposure in the school building And - probably a big factor for many of us and our kids - in utero. Remember the best way to cehlate a woman is to get her pregnant. If the mom has a high body burden then she can pass the lead to the child.just as we pass the mercury from our amalgams to our kids as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 They also sometimes use antimony solder now which is problematic as well. S S <p>I spoke with a home inspector who tests for chemicals and asked this<br> same question. He said that builders could use old sodder (sp?) for<br> pipes and this could cause lead in your drinking water -- even in a new<br> house like mine.<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 That's lead. My mother did stained glass for a while too until she started getting achy hands and pain in her hands. The doc told her no more soldering..you handle raw lead when you make stained glass. And as for painting, that would cadmium... She needs a hair test. On the web there are lots of sites on Lead poisoning effects in relation to industrial poisoning and what it does to the body. Long term lead will cause " diseases " and other strange things. I know I have had an abnormal blood test for years and finally connected it to lead. Lead causes small red cells, red cells that are too light in color. Just search the web under " lead poisoning " and you will find tons of stuff. > > I'm trying to find some information to give to a friend regarding lead poisoning. He has a sister who is very ill and they have diagnosed her with a disease I have never heard of, let alone to be able to pronounce or spell it. When he was describing some of her symptoms (which sounded very severe), I kept thinking metal poisoning. His sister used to be an art teacher and her big talent was making stained glass. She taught during the mid to late 70's and early 80's, so I know she must have been exposed to lead (in some paints, too, as she was a painter). When he told me that she had lost the tips of her fingers (I'm thinking.....she handled that lead so much with the tips of her fingers, it must have something to do with this). Most of my research has been on the mercury issue for my son, so I haven't really researched lead too much. If anyone could provide some direction of where I could find some links to help him research this, I would really appreciate it. > > Elsie erussell@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I thought this was interesting.... Lead poisoning ARTICLE SECTIONS a.. Introduction b.. Signs and symptoms c.. Causes d.. Risk factors a.. Screening and diagnosis b.. Complications c.. Treatment d.. Prevention Complications Exposure to even low levels of lead can cause damage over time, especially in children. The greatest risk is to brain development, where irreversible damage may occur. Very high lead levels may cause seizures, unconsciousness and possibly death. Death by lead poisoning is rare, but it can happen. Complications in children Health problems in children caused by elevated blood lead levels may include: a.. Nervous system and kidney damage b.. Learning disabilities c.. Speech, language and behavior problems d.. Poor muscle coordination e.. Decreased muscle and bone growth f.. Hearing damage Complications in adults High levels of lead in adults may lead to: a.. High blood pressure b.. Digestive problems c.. Nerve disorders d.. Cataracts e.. Memory and concentration problems f.. Muscle and joint pain g.. Pregnancy complications, including miscarriage, preterm delivery and stillbirth h.. Damage to sperm-producing organs in men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Liz, One thing that I wanted to mention to you. Since you mentioned possible cardiac problems. That could be possibly related to arsenic rather than lead. Also could be a mercury thing. I know you know about the flame retardents and arsenic connection but in this case you'd also want to watch rice (can pick up arsenic from the soil), chicken (often fed feed containing arsenic to kill parasites) and any wooden deck or playstructure which contained CCA (an arsenic containing compound). I contacted the farms that our chicken and rice come from to ask about arsenic content. We also took down our old wooden playstructure and put up a Rainbow. One of the girls that I went to high school with had a BIL who was a physician. He had to retire from his medical practice because of health problems which later turned out to be due to arsenic. The only doctor in my area who will do any type of chelation was a mainstream doctor who changed his practice after his wife became ill and it turned out to be lead poisoning. Personal experience does eventually change attitudes. Vicki > > >I thought this was interesting.... > > > >Lead poisoning > > > >ARTICLE SECTIONS > > > > a.. Introduction > > b.. Signs and symptoms > > c.. Causes > > d.. Risk factors > > a.. Screening and diagnosis > > b.. Complications > > c.. Treatment > > d.. Prevention > > > > > > > >Complications > >Exposure to even low levels of lead can cause damage over time, especially in children. The greatest risk is to brain development, where irreversible damage may occur. Very high lead levels may cause seizures, unconsciousness and possibly death. Death by lead poisoning is rare, but it can happen. > > > >Complications in children > >Health problems in children caused by elevated blood lead levels may include: > > > > a.. Nervous system and kidney damage > > b.. Learning disabilities > > c.. Speech, language and behavior problems > > d.. Poor muscle coordination > > e.. Decreased muscle and bone growth > > f.. Hearing damage > >Complications in adults > >High levels of lead in adults may lead to: > > > > a.. High blood pressure > > b.. Digestive problems > > c.. Nerve disorders > > d.. Cataracts > > e.. Memory and concentration problems > > f.. Muscle and joint pain > > g.. Pregnancy complications, including miscarriage, preterm delivery and stillbirth > > h.. Damage to sperm-producing organs in men > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I don't truthfully know about the flame retartdent aresenic thing. I just know that the flame retardent stuff is bad but did not know why other than, I thought, a carcinogen thing which sounds like I was wrong. We don't have a deck or playstructure but the chicken and rice thing is interesting. Son has had rice issues from the beginning and the only meat I have ever fed them from the beginning was chicken and they started self-limiting. It turns out the Bell and chicken we were using had a rice coat on it. We have been sneaking chicken into pancakes which I will stop and kind of had prior to this email. I did just buy chicken burgers from Bell and without rice. Not sure if I should serve them. I do believe the urine test when we go to the DAN! will be helpful. In the interim things have been coming to mind that make me realize two things: 1) It is nothing short of a miracle that we are not worse off with both kids and 2) I need to do what I can to keep that miracle going. Just some highlights on my son alone: Not only does the kid have heart stuff stridors, etc in the hospital but he comes home to a broken water heater and two days letter the regular heater broke. We stayed in the house while they worked on both for three days. So essentially the first few days of his life during a cold winter the kid was sitting in the den next to a bunch of guys kicking up dust, dirt and metal. We stayed in the house a lot because of the weather and it was never ventilated out. I fed him breast milk from a mom on fluoridated water who was taking tylenol and macrobid with him in utero eating gluten and milk filled products like they were going out of style. Not to mention the antimony on all his sleepers that were never washed in fabric softener and I often used strong stain spray on those clothes that was likely toxic. For my daughter, tylenol, acyclovir and chicken pox in utero. Then the " special water " for 4 years. She just fell in the brook behind my house and has three bug bites (she was in there for a minute, tops). A paranoid mother would fear West NIle...not going there. I do want to get my heating ducts cleaned though. Any suggestions on how to do it safely? I am thinking we could do it while on vacation then air the place out or something??? fridgudare2003 wrote: >Liz, > >One thing that I wanted to mention to you. Since you mentioned >possible cardiac problems. That could be possibly related to arsenic >rather than lead. Also could be a mercury thing. > >I know you know about the flame retardents and arsenic connection but >in this case you'd also want to watch rice (can pick up arsenic from >the soil), chicken (often fed feed containing arsenic to kill >parasites) and any wooden deck or playstructure which contained CCA >(an arsenic containing compound). I contacted the farms that our >chicken and rice come from to ask about arsenic content. We also >took down our old wooden playstructure and put up a Rainbow. > >One of the girls that I went to high school with had a BIL who was a >physician. He had to retire from his medical practice because of >health problems which later turned out to be due to arsenic. The >only doctor in my area who will do any type of chelation was a >mainstream doctor who changed his practice after his wife became ill >and it turned out to be lead poisoning. Personal experience does >eventually change attitudes. > >Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 You really have me thinking about the arseic. Particularly since he does better in the warm weather...when not sleeping and sweating in those antimony sleepers. Both kids are doing very well in the car since we washed the car seat covers in fabric softener. Not sure if that really did anything or if it is in my head but they seem to sleep in the car only when truly tired now. fridgudare2003 wrote: >Liz, > >One thing that I wanted to mention to you. Since you mentioned >possible cardiac problems. That could be possibly related to arsenic >rather than lead. Also could be a mercury thing. > >I know you know about the flame retardents and arsenic connection but >in this case you'd also want to watch rice (can pick up arsenic from >the soil), chicken (often fed feed containing arsenic to kill >parasites) and any wooden deck or playstructure which contained CCA >(an arsenic containing compound). I contacted the farms that our >chicken and rice come from to ask about arsenic content. We also >took down our old wooden playstructure and put up a Rainbow. > >One of the girls that I went to high school with had a BIL who was a >physician. He had to retire from his medical practice because of >health problems which later turned out to be due to arsenic. The >only doctor in my area who will do any type of chelation was a >mainstream doctor who changed his practice after his wife became ill >and it turned out to be lead poisoning. Personal experience does >eventually change attitudes. > >Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 One thing I have been curious about is the wood chips and what they are treated with as they are all over the park here. fridgudare2003 wrote: >Liz, > >One thing that I wanted to mention to you. Since you mentioned >possible cardiac problems. That could be possibly related to arsenic >rather than lead. Also could be a mercury thing. > >I know you know about the flame retardents and arsenic connection but >in this case you'd also want to watch rice (can pick up arsenic from >the soil), chicken (often fed feed containing arsenic to kill >parasites) and any wooden deck or playstructure which contained CCA >(an arsenic containing compound). I contacted the farms that our >chicken and rice come from to ask about arsenic content. We also >took down our old wooden playstructure and put up a Rainbow. > >One of the girls that I went to high school with had a BIL who was a >physician. He had to retire from his medical practice because of >health problems which later turned out to be due to arsenic. The >only doctor in my area who will do any type of chelation was a >mainstream doctor who changed his practice after his wife became ill >and it turned out to be lead poisoning. Personal experience does >eventually change attitudes. > >Vicki > > > >> >> >> >>>I thought this was interesting.... >>> >>>Lead poisoning >>> >>>ARTICLE SECTIONS >>> >>> a.. Introduction >>> b.. Signs and symptoms >>> c.. Causes >>> d.. Risk factors >>> a.. Screening and diagnosis >>> b.. Complications >>> c.. Treatment >>> d.. Prevention >>> >>> >>> >>>Complications >>>Exposure to even low levels of lead can cause damage over time, >>> >>> >especially in children. The greatest risk is to brain development, >where irreversible damage may occur. Very high lead levels may cause >seizures, unconsciousness and possibly death. Death by lead poisoning >is rare, but it can happen. > > >>>Complications in children >>>Health problems in children caused by elevated blood lead levels >>> >>> >may include: > > >>> a.. Nervous system and kidney damage >>> b.. Learning disabilities >>> c.. Speech, language and behavior problems >>> d.. Poor muscle coordination >>> e.. Decreased muscle and bone growth >>> f.. Hearing damage >>>Complications in adults >>>High levels of lead in adults may lead to: >>> >>> a.. High blood pressure >>> b.. Digestive problems >>> c.. Nerve disorders >>> d.. Cataracts >>> e.. Memory and concentration problems >>> f.. Muscle and joint pain >>> g.. Pregnancy complications, including miscarriage, preterm >>> >>> >delivery and stillbirth > > >>> h.. Damage to sperm-producing organs in men >>> >>> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Thanks for the water info. Our water here, while not fluoridated, has other fun stuff in it. In fact I think that is why they do not fluoridate it. That is why I bought that damn baby water. I may be better off though. I see other issues in the kids who drink the town water. Yeah, our UPS guy must think I am nuts by now. Atlanta should have a Harry's. Not sure what they have though. I am headed to a nutritionist for my dental stuff. Her scheduler/sales guy, referred me to her when I asked about the water, specifically the osmosis thing stripping the water. He mentioned drinking mineral water but my worry is where do you get the pure stuff? I will always be suspicious of added fluoride. I have to do something. You know, it is occurring to me that these kids are trying to tell me something. They are not drinking much water. I have learned over time that if my son does not want to eat or drink something we should probably leave it be. If I had listened to him before we may not be in this mess. Maternal regret. Not sure where that bus stops but i'd like to get off. In the meantime I'd rather just focus forward. fridgudare2003 wrote: >I think reverse osmosis gets pretty much everything out. The >argument against it is that it leaves water alkaline and also >stripped of minerals. Our reverse osmosis kept needing filter >changes in record time so we finally opted for home delivery of >Mountain Valley Spring Water in the glass bottles. Another good but >expensive option is the Wellness water filtration system. >Nope. No Harry's either. I have to rely on Super Target for >Organic Produce and a health food store all the way across >town for gluten free items..... and then there's the UPS man who >probably thinks I'm ordering all kinds of neat things. Little does >he know it's food and supplements. >When we drive the 6 hours to Atlanta for infusions and when we used >to drive the 3 hours to Louisiana for PROMPT therapy, I'd go by their >Whole Foods Markets, Trader Joe's, etc and load up an ice chest before >heading back home. > >Vicki > > >> >> >> >>>It's primarily rice because they flood the fields. >>> >>>I've heard they've also sprayed potatoes with arsenic to >>>keep them from sprouting but I don't know that may be an old >>>practice. We just try to buy as much organic as possible and scrub >>>and peel everying as much as possible. >>> >>>Bell and is supposed to be a good chicken brand, so they're >>>probably okay. >>> >>>You haven't done anything that many other Moms haven't done as >>> >>> >well. > > >>>I see some of these kids out and about and think wow if that was >>> >>> >my > > >>>kid they'd be dead by now. But then I've had at least one school >>>teacher tell me that a lot of kids have problems and the parents >>>don't know it. >>> >>>We had grandparents that put in a water heater that was heated >>> >>> >with > > >>>wood outside. The water was so hot, it cleaned out their old >>> >>> >pipes. > > >>>Literally. You could see the metal in the bottom of the glass of >>>water if you let it sit. I took bottled water for the kids but >>>Grandma made their oatmeal with tap water:>( Then there was the >>> >>> >PVC > > >>>pipe that a plumber told us " used " to be inside our hot water >>>heater. It used to be in our hot water heater because it >>>disintegrated. PVC generally contains lead so not only were we >>>drinking plastic. We were also probaly getting a dose of lead. >>> >>> >And > > >>>then there's the night our carbon monoxide detectors went off >>> >>> >because > > >>>something was wrong with the vent from our gas heater. (I TOLD my >>>husband that I didn't want to live in a house with gas heat, but >>> >>> >then > > >>>he never listens to me!) >>> >>>Vicki >>> >>> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Liz...some people say kids do better in warmer months because they get more sunshine (Vit D). Also, our OT says all the extra OT they get with summer activities...swimming etc. Aggie Re: [ ] Re: Lead poisoning You really have me thinking about the arseic. Particularly since he does better in the warm weather...when not sleeping and sweating in those antimony sleepers. Both kids are doing very well in the car since we washed the car seat covers in fabric softener. Not sure if that really did anything or if it is in my head but they seem to sleep in the car only when truly tired now. fridgudare2003 wrote: >Liz, > >One thing that I wanted to mention to you. Since you mentioned >possible cardiac problems. That could be possibly related to arsenic >rather than lead. Also could be a mercury thing. > >I know you know about the flame retardents and arsenic connection but >in this case you'd also want to watch rice (can pick up arsenic from >the soil), chicken (often fed feed containing arsenic to kill >parasites) and any wooden deck or playstructure which contained CCA >(an arsenic containing compound). I contacted the farms that our >chicken and rice come from to ask about arsenic content. We also >took down our old wooden playstructure and put up a Rainbow. > >One of the girls that I went to high school with had a BIL who was a >physician. He had to retire from his medical practice because of >health problems which later turned out to be due to arsenic. The >only doctor in my area who will do any type of chelation was a >mainstream doctor who changed his practice after his wife became ill >and it turned out to be lead poisoning. Personal experience does >eventually change attitudes. > >Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I know what you are saying but my guess is it is more than that as their activity and outside level is the same. Your other post killed me. I was laughing out loud at the discussions you had. It is not funny about the repeating. It is not funny that we, as caretakers, have to inform the docs. What is funny is the idea of a grandmother who knew the guy in shortpants who is now the doc, telling him all that. The too late thing I am starting to believe, is an insurance reimbursement thing. For whatever misgivings I may have had about my old pediatrician she never let that stand in the way. She just had crzy ideas and did not believe me when I needed her to. Gene and Aggie Birocco wrote: >Liz...some people say kids do better in warmer months because they get more sunshine (Vit D). Also, our OT says all the extra OT they get with summer activities...swimming etc. Aggie > Re: [ ] Re: Lead poisoning > > > You really have me thinking about the arseic. Particularly since he does > better in the warm weather...when not sleeping and sweating in those > antimony sleepers. Both kids are doing very well in the car since we > washed the car seat covers in fabric softener. Not sure if that really > did anything or if it is in my head but they seem to sleep in the car > only when truly tired now. > > fridgudare2003 wrote: > > >Liz, > > > >One thing that I wanted to mention to you. Since you mentioned > >possible cardiac problems. That could be possibly related to arsenic > >rather than lead. Also could be a mercury thing. > > > >I know you know about the flame retardents and arsenic connection but > >in this case you'd also want to watch rice (can pick up arsenic from > >the soil), chicken (often fed feed containing arsenic to kill > >parasites) and any wooden deck or playstructure which contained CCA > >(an arsenic containing compound). I contacted the farms that our > >chicken and rice come from to ask about arsenic content. We also > >took down our old wooden playstructure and put up a Rainbow. > > > >One of the girls that I went to high school with had a BIL who was a > >physician. He had to retire from his medical practice because of > >health problems which later turned out to be due to arsenic. The > >only doctor in my area who will do any type of chelation was a > >mainstream doctor who changed his practice after his wife became ill > >and it turned out to be lead poisoning. Personal experience does > >eventually change attitudes. > > > >Vicki > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 What is the problem with drinking alkaline water? fridgudare2003 wrote: >I think reverse osmosis gets pretty much everything out. The >argument against it is that it leaves water alkaline and also >stripped of minerals. Our reverse osmosis kept needing filter >changes in record time so we finally opted for home delivery of >Mountain Valley Spring Water in the glass bottles. Another good but >expensive option is the Wellness water filtration system. >Nope. No Harry's either. I have to rely on Super Target for >Organic Produce and a health food store all the way across >town for gluten free items..... and then there's the UPS man who >probably thinks I'm ordering all kinds of neat things. Little does >he know it's food and supplements. >When we drive the 6 hours to Atlanta for infusions and when we used >to drive the 3 hours to Louisiana for PROMPT therapy, I'd go by their >Whole Foods Markets, Trader Joe's, etc and load up an ice chest before >heading back home. > >Vicki > > >> >> >> >>>It's primarily rice because they flood the fields. >>> >>>I've heard they've also sprayed potatoes with arsenic to >>>keep them from sprouting but I don't know that may be an old >>>practice. We just try to buy as much organic as possible and scrub >>>and peel everying as much as possible. >>> >>>Bell and is supposed to be a good chicken brand, so they're >>>probably okay. >>> >>>You haven't done anything that many other Moms haven't done as >>> >>> >well. > > >>>I see some of these kids out and about and think wow if that was >>> >>> >my > > >>>kid they'd be dead by now. But then I've had at least one school >>>teacher tell me that a lot of kids have problems and the parents >>>don't know it. >>> >>>We had grandparents that put in a water heater that was heated >>> >>> >with > > >>>wood outside. The water was so hot, it cleaned out their old >>> >>> >pipes. > > >>>Literally. You could see the metal in the bottom of the glass of >>>water if you let it sit. I took bottled water for the kids but >>>Grandma made their oatmeal with tap water:>( Then there was the >>> >>> >PVC > > >>>pipe that a plumber told us " used " to be inside our hot water >>>heater. It used to be in our hot water heater because it >>>disintegrated. PVC generally contains lead so not only were we >>>drinking plastic. We were also probaly getting a dose of lead. >>> >>> >And > > >>>then there's the night our carbon monoxide detectors went off >>> >>> >because > > >>>something was wrong with the vent from our gas heater. (I TOLD my >>>husband that I didn't want to live in a house with gas heat, but >>> >>> >then > > >>>he never listens to me!) >>> >>>Vicki >>> >>> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 From what I understand, alkaline water is very good for you - depending on the ph of course - around 8-9, no higher than that is usually recommended. The sell water ionizers that actually alkalinize the water, you see them at the DAN and other Autism conferences. Nora On Aug 21, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Liz wrote: > What is the problem with drinking alkaline water? > > fridgudare2003 wrote: > > >I think reverse osmosis gets pretty much everything out. The > >argument against it is that it leaves water alkaline and also > >stripped of minerals. Our reverse osmosis kept needing filter > >changes in record time so we finally opted for home delivery of > >Mountain Valley Spring Water in the glass bottles. Another good but > >expensive option is the Wellness water filtration system. > >Nope. No Harry's either. I have to rely on Super Target for > >Organic Produce and a health food store all the way across > >town for gluten free items..... and then there's the UPS man who > >probably thinks I'm ordering all kinds of neat things. Little does > >he know it's food and supplements. > >When we drive the 6 hours to Atlanta for infusions and when we used > >to drive the 3 hours to Louisiana for PROMPT therapy, I'd go by their > >Whole Foods Markets, Trader Joe's, etc and load up an ice chest > before > >heading back home. > > > >Vicki > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>>It's primarily rice because they flood the fields. > >>> > >>>I've heard they've also sprayed potatoes with arsenic to > >>>keep them from sprouting but I don't know that may be an old > >>>practice. We just try to buy as much organic as possible and scrub > >>>and peel everying as much as possible. > >>> > >>>Bell and is supposed to be a good chicken brand, so they're > >>>probably okay. > >>> > >>>You haven't done anything that many other Moms haven't done as > >>> > >>> > >well. > > > > > >>>I see some of these kids out and about and think wow if that was > >>> > >>> > >my > > > > > >>>kid they'd be dead by now. But then I've had at least one school > >>>teacher tell me that a lot of kids have problems and the parents > >>>don't know it. > >>> > >>>We had grandparents that put in a water heater that was heated > >>> > >>> > >with > > > > > >>>wood outside. The water was so hot, it cleaned out their old > >>> > >>> > >pipes. > > > > > >>>Literally. You could see the metal in the bottom of the glass of > >>>water if you let it sit. I took bottled water for the kids but > >>>Grandma made their oatmeal with tap water:>( Then there was the > >>> > >>> > >PVC > > > > > >>>pipe that a plumber told us " used " to be inside our hot water > >>>heater. It used to be in our hot water heater because it > >>>disintegrated. PVC generally contains lead so not only were we > >>>drinking plastic. We were also probaly getting a dose of lead. > >>> > >>> > >And > > > > > >>>then there's the night our carbon monoxide detectors went off > >>> > >>> > >because > > > > > >>>something was wrong with the vent from our gas heater. (I TOLD my > >>>husband that I didn't want to live in a house with gas heat, but > >>> > >>> > >then > > > > > >>>he never listens to me!) > >>> > >>>Vicki > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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