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In a message dated 5/5/2003 7:20:09 AM Central Daylight Time,

meeshellyb@... writes:

> Hey all,

>

> was just increased to 2 enzymes each feeding. I've noticed

> that since we did that his stools are looser and greasy. Before the

> change they were perfectly solid. Is it normal to experience a change

> like this? I thought if anything it would make him even more regular.

> His doctor increased him because he only gained about 10 oz. this

> month which puts him at 17# 14oz at 1 year old. I guess it's possible

> he could just be a little off. If anyone has experienced this could

> you let me know?

>

> Thanks to all and be well!!

>

> Michele B

>

You know Michele they just increased my two daughter enzymes too and I notice

that too. I have not called them about it yet either. Maybe it takes a while

for there body to get use to them? I don't know but we just started about 2

weeks ago so I am going to give it a little more time to see if there is a

change. If you find out anything different let me know. Deb A

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Not sure what kind of enzymes is on but my son was on 3 Creon

5 at age 1. His stools have never been formed but he has little

malabsorption. He is on a powder enzyme now at age 2 (he is g-tube

fed).

It may take a few days for the enzymes to take effect and show a

difference. Are you adding calories and fat whenever possible? Oil

or butter in solids, rice cereal in pureed foods, concentrated

formula, etc?

Good luck.

> Hey all,

>

> was just increased to 2 enzymes each feeding. I've noticed

> that since we did that his stools are looser and greasy. Before the

> change they were perfectly solid. Is it normal to experience a

change

> like this? I thought if anything it would make him even more

regular.

> His doctor increased him because he only gained about 10 oz. this

> month which puts him at 17# 14oz at 1 year old. I guess it's

possible

> he could just be a little off. If anyone has experienced this could

> you let me know?

>

> Thanks to all and be well!!

>

> Michele B

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My son is 14months and just now weighs 16 lbs. He is taking 3 Ultrase

enzymes each feeding. His stools are not well formed in fact they are

horribly runny when he's teething! I hate teething! (Hated it with his

older sister too.)

Most of my son's increases in enzymes were for the same reason you

list, little weight gain. But I don't recall the stools being too

much different due to enzymes. Ours was usually due to prilosec

increases.

I know I didn't help at all, other than I believe this is another one

of those issues where you see what's " normal " for you pwcf.

Crystal

mom to Adam 14mo wcf, le 3 yr nocf.

> Hey all,

>

> was just increased to 2 enzymes each feeding. I've noticed

> that since we did that his stools are looser and greasy. Before the

> change they were perfectly solid. Is it normal to experience a

change

> like this? I thought if anything it would make him even more

regular.

> His doctor increased him because he only gained about 10 oz. this

> month which puts him at 17# 14oz at 1 year old. I guess it's

possible

> he could just be a little off. If anyone has experienced this could

> you let me know?

>

> Thanks to all and be well!!

>

> Michele B

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Morning Michele,

I am an " old " , lurker member of the CF Parents list, my name is

and have a 2 years, 10 month old boy with CF.

Regarding our own experience, a high dosage of enzymes may cause same

effects as a too low dose. Have you been increasing 's enzyme

intake gradually, or was it sudden?

I understand that he must be taking his enzymes with applesauce or

something similar. If his change was drastic, and your experience

was not too good, you may want to try to build up his enzyme intake

little by little, say, 1/4 capsule at a time, and see what happens.

Of course, I think it'd be good to check this issue out with his Doc

or nutritionist, if you feel like doing so.

This is the way I've done with Agustin, when he's needed some enzyme

dose upgrade. I remember, when he was around 5 months old, he used

to take, say, " n " bottles a day. So our scheme was more or less as

follows:

(let's suppose n = 6)

he was on 4,000 lipase units per bottle, was upgraded to 8,000 lipase

units.

Week 1

Bottle 1: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 2: 4,000 lipase units

Bottle 3: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 4: 4,000 lipase units

Bottle 5: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 6: 4,000 lipase units

Week 2

Bottle 1: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 2: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 3: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 4: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 5: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 6: 6,000 lipase units

Week 3

Bottle 1: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 2: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 3: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 4: 6,000 lipase units

Bottle 5: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 6: 6,000 lipase units

Week 4

Bottle 1: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 2: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 3: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 4: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 5: 8,000 lipase units

Bottle 6: 8,000 lipase units

And I had to check what happened in between. This gradual upgrade

led him to better absorption in the end, and did not cause too much

trouble in the process.

Perhaps this " plan " might also fit 's requirments. Or you may

also notice that he could probably need 1 1/2 enzymes per meal,

instead of 2 ...

Hope this helps!

Mom of Agustin, 2yo wcf

> Hey all,

>

> was just increased to 2 enzymes each feeding. I've noticed

> that since we did that his stools are looser and greasy. Before the

> change they were perfectly solid. Is it normal to experience a

change

> like this? I thought if anything it would make him even more

regular.

> His doctor increased him because he only gained about 10 oz. this

> month which puts him at 17# 14oz at 1 year old. I guess it's

possible

> he could just be a little off. If anyone has experienced this could

> you let me know?

>

> Thanks to all and be well!!

>

> Michele B

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