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A few months ago, Randy got a shiner right above his right eye.

Over the course of a few days it spread to the tear duct side of his

eye. Then, finally the bruising finally ended under his eye on

the 'temple' side. It looked terrible, but he never complained of

headaches or was nauseated, so I didn't take him to the doctor and

it healed completely.

I actually had a soccer ball hit the bridge of my nose when I was

about 14 yrs old. My nose bled a bit, but no other bruising. I

found out 16 years later that I had broken my nose back then and

developed a significant deviated septum.

So basically, the bruising may be not a correct indication as to

whether his nose was broken or not. If you have any doubts, then

you could always take him to the doctor as a precaution.

--Sange

>

> Is there any possibility that the undereye shiners can spread

across

> the bridge of the nose? bc thats exactly what looks like is

happening

> with brennan.

> Im sure if he fell and whacked the top bridge of his nose I would

have

> heard some screaming, and hes been home with me all week. He is an

> easy bruiser though.

>

> I just had this thought that maybe we have a really bad sinus

> infection going on and he really hasnt been feeling well at all

lately.

>

> The circles under his eyes are so dark, and now he has a bruisy

> looking thing across the bridge of his nose to match. It started

out

> looking like a dark blue vein, yesterday, and now today, it looks

like

> a total bruisy thing.

>

> Any ideas?

>

> valarie

>

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Valarie,

I know exactly what you are talking about. When my kiddo is run down or

fighting an infection she gets this odd discoloration across the bridge of her

nose -- it is similar to the color under her eyes. We have no explanation for

it. Our daughter is chronically neutropenic so it does make one wonder about

that and autoimmune stuff. Please let me know if you find answers.

Our daughter's fades after a few days of us worrying. LOL.

mom to CVIDer

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osdbmom wrote:

> ,

> allright, fine then, IT HAD BETTER stay bruised looking until either

> he sees pulmo and or ID guy next week!! he sees both--and I hate

> giving dumb descriptions like this, when they dont see anything by then.

> v

>

Can you take a picture? Might help. But if he feels bad and you

suspect a sinus infection -- then I would take him in.

In His service,

dale

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Just and FYI, I ALWAYS take a picture of anything that I think the doctors

may question if they don't see it with their own eyes. I actually sent pictures

of 's surgical site after his port was removed and I felt it was badly

infected. Once they saw the pictures, they had him come in immediately for

cultures and high dose antibiotics. Until that time, I had called the clinic

more than 6 times and they all said that if it wasn't actively draining and he

was fever free, then it was concerning to them.

I love my digital camera!! LOL

Mommy to:

Annette 16yo, selective antibody deficiency, cp, devlopmental delays, g-tube,

IVIG x 5 years, Sub Q IG x 2 yr now and LOVING it. Every bit a teenager (both

for the good and the bad ) LOL.

11yo, previous B and T cell deficiencies, IVIG x 1 year (off now over

3 years), daily prophylaxis, brain tumor survivor, hearing impaired, seizure

disorder, grd. III kidney reflux, learning disabled, and one heck of a " WWE

wrestler " !

Trayvon 7yo, Ivemark Syndrome, severe congenital heart defects, asplenia,

malrotated intestines, microcephalic, migraines, severe reflux and an

imagination

I can't keep up with for one minute!

Marriela 4yo, Micro premie (26 weeker, 1 lb, 12oz), NICU x 4 months, severe

asthma, devlopmental delays, mild cp, reflux, and gives us a serious run for

our money every single day!

and last but not least,

Cody 14 mo, some reflux a bit of asthma, a little constipation but otherwise

a wonderfully happy and healthy baby.

God has a serious sense of humor now doesn't he! LOLOLOLOL

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Shiners are mostly caused by allergies, but if the adenoids are huge,

they won't go away, even if all allergens are removed. We're about to

have my son's adenoids removed because they are so enlarged, and I

hope his shiners will finally disappear.

>

> Here is a decent write-up on shiners and their relation to

allergies. My

> daughter, who tested negative for nearly every allergy (but the

> allergist did say keep her away from things you notice problems with

> which was, at the time just citrus) has always had these...since the

day

> she was born. The only consistent thing in her diet since then

> was...milk. They have greatly lessened since milk but are not

completely

> gone. I have heard of them being associated with metal and neuro

> conditions. She is ahead of the curve developmentally and metals in

> blood test are fine but no DAN type testing yet. My suspicion as to why

> what little of the dark circles remains is that she likely has an

> allergy we have yet to find or all the casein has not left her

system yet.

>

> What troubles me is that I asked the eye doctor, the cardiologist

and an

> old pediatrician and all said it was a vitamin B deficiency BUT none

> said I could do anything about it. It may very well be allergies, a

> vitamin B deficiency, or both. Or, more than likely in my guessing

mind,

> evidence of her compromised immune system causing allergy-like

symptoms.

> Whatever it is or was something could have and should have been

> done...specifically direct vitamin intake labs to see what she was

> absorbing!

>

> As an aside, the current pediatrician said it was allergies, likely

milk

> since it lessened but could also be something not yet identified.

>

> So, off my soapbox and onto the article:

>

> http://www.drpaul.com/library/ALLERGYSIGNS.html

>

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As you may know, both my kids have them. I was given three explanations

before metal.

1) thin skin showing the veins

2) B6 deficiency (maybe that one was right...due to metal)

3) allergy (daughters has left somewhat though not completely on the new

diet so perhaps that is partially correct)

For those familiar with shiners and metal...what is the deal? Do you see

the blue blood more because the metal is making the blood heavy so it

does not move as quickly? Low blod pressue is also prevalent in my

fluoridated family.

:)

L

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