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My son was evaluated by a SLP today and she said she suspects he has

Apraxia. She said that children are normally not offically diagnosed

with such a disorder until they are 3, and Terry is 30 months old.

Terry did not start talking much at all until about 4-5 months ago,

and most of his words are not understandable to anyone except me and

sometime my husband, because I have taught him.

For example: fish=key, snake=nay-o, milk=ma, daddy=die, ball=ba,

balloon=ba, vacuum=ba, star-kwai, airplane=ah, trian=try-a,

Santa=Sha, present=pee, please=pee, pencil=pee.

Terry NEVER babbled or cooed as an infant and was really just a quiet

toddler for the most part, unless he was crying for something. Never

babbleing or cooing though like most babies do.

His vocabulary was also very limited to about 20-35 words until

recently. Recently he broke his leg and that has sort of " forced " him

into talking more to get his needs met. He has also been watching

more TV than playing like he used to, and I try to make some of that

TV " educational " as well.

Now he has about 80 words he uses, although I understand this is no

where, where he should be for his age.

Terry will occasionally gag on his food, depending on the texture of

what I offer him, and how hungry he is. I have learned not to try to

bribe him to eat-or he definitly gags. If he isnt absolutly hungry -

no matter what time of day - he will gag the food. At first I thought

he was being difficult, but he really isnt that kind of child. He

never has been " difficult " about anything.

Terry also will use words and then either stop using them altogether,

or stop for a day or two or more and then use a different variation

of the word. Like he used to say dada, but now Dada has become " die " .

I have found though, that over time, he has kept and keeps more words

than he used to.

It seems like he can say a portion of a lot of words, but can't

finish it. Like, Ball=ba, cool=coo, dog= da, moon=mmmmm, cat=ca,

Terry=Tee.

The SLP wants to see Terry for one on one sessions twice a week.

I am wondering what any of you could offer on what I have said. Any

words/advice/comments would be greatly appreciated!!

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Really sounds like apraxia. Consider starting omega 3 and vit E, in

addition to the 1:1 ST (which is also critical since your ST suspects

apraxia hopefully is familiar with good approaches for apraxia). Get

him evaluated by an OT as well, since many of these children have

coordination issues and low tone that are not picked up on regular

pediatric exams, but becomes obvious upon special testing. There is

still 6 months left before he turns 3 that you could get some of the

services covered through EI program if you can get him in to be

evaluated. All the private therapy is expensive and whatever help you

can get from the state is a good thing while its available. -

> My son was evaluated by a SLP today and she said she suspects he

has

> Apraxia. She said that children are normally not offically

diagnosed

> with such a disorder until they are 3, and Terry is 30 months old.

>

> Terry did not start talking much at all until about 4-5 months ago,

> and most of his words are not understandable to anyone except me

and

> sometime my husband, because I have taught him.

> For example: fish=key, snake=nay-o, milk=ma, daddy=die, ball=ba,

> balloon=ba, vacuum=ba, star-kwai, airplane=ah, trian=try-a,

> Santa=Sha, present=pee, please=pee, pencil=pee.

> Terry NEVER babbled or cooed as an infant and was really just a

quiet

> toddler for the most part, unless he was crying for something.

Never

> babbleing or cooing though like most babies do.

> His vocabulary was also very limited to about 20-35 words until

> recently. Recently he broke his leg and that has sort of " forced "

him

> into talking more to get his needs met. He has also been watching

> more TV than playing like he used to, and I try to make some of

that

> TV " educational " as well.

>

> Now he has about 80 words he uses, although I understand this is no

> where, where he should be for his age.

>

> Terry will occasionally gag on his food, depending on the texture

of

> what I offer him, and how hungry he is. I have learned not to try

to

> bribe him to eat-or he definitly gags. If he isnt absolutly hungry -

> no matter what time of day - he will gag the food. At first I

thought

> he was being difficult, but he really isnt that kind of child. He

> never has been " difficult " about anything.

> Terry also will use words and then either stop using them

altogether,

> or stop for a day or two or more and then use a different variation

> of the word. Like he used to say dada, but now Dada has

become " die " .

> I have found though, that over time, he has kept and keeps more

words

> than he used to.

> It seems like he can say a portion of a lot of words, but can't

> finish it. Like, Ball=ba, cool=coo, dog= da, moon=mmmmm, cat=ca,

> Terry=Tee.

> The SLP wants to see Terry for one on one sessions twice a week.

> I am wondering what any of you could offer on what I have said. Any

> words/advice/comments would be greatly appreciated!!

>

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Really sounds like apraxia. Consider starting omega 3 and vit E, in

addition to the 1:1 ST (which is also critical since your ST suspects

apraxia hopefully is familiar with good approaches for apraxia). Get

him evaluated by an OT as well, since many of these children have

coordination issues and low tone that are not picked up on regular

pediatric exams, but becomes obvious upon special testing. There is

still 6 months left before he turns 3 that you could get some of the

services covered through EI program if you can get him in to be

evaluated. All the private therapy is expensive and whatever help you

can get from the state is a good thing while its available. -

> My son was evaluated by a SLP today and she said she suspects he

has

> Apraxia. She said that children are normally not offically

diagnosed

> with such a disorder until they are 3, and Terry is 30 months old.

>

> Terry did not start talking much at all until about 4-5 months ago,

> and most of his words are not understandable to anyone except me

and

> sometime my husband, because I have taught him.

> For example: fish=key, snake=nay-o, milk=ma, daddy=die, ball=ba,

> balloon=ba, vacuum=ba, star-kwai, airplane=ah, trian=try-a,

> Santa=Sha, present=pee, please=pee, pencil=pee.

> Terry NEVER babbled or cooed as an infant and was really just a

quiet

> toddler for the most part, unless he was crying for something.

Never

> babbleing or cooing though like most babies do.

> His vocabulary was also very limited to about 20-35 words until

> recently. Recently he broke his leg and that has sort of " forced "

him

> into talking more to get his needs met. He has also been watching

> more TV than playing like he used to, and I try to make some of

that

> TV " educational " as well.

>

> Now he has about 80 words he uses, although I understand this is no

> where, where he should be for his age.

>

> Terry will occasionally gag on his food, depending on the texture

of

> what I offer him, and how hungry he is. I have learned not to try

to

> bribe him to eat-or he definitly gags. If he isnt absolutly hungry -

> no matter what time of day - he will gag the food. At first I

thought

> he was being difficult, but he really isnt that kind of child. He

> never has been " difficult " about anything.

> Terry also will use words and then either stop using them

altogether,

> or stop for a day or two or more and then use a different variation

> of the word. Like he used to say dada, but now Dada has

become " die " .

> I have found though, that over time, he has kept and keeps more

words

> than he used to.

> It seems like he can say a portion of a lot of words, but can't

> finish it. Like, Ball=ba, cool=coo, dog= da, moon=mmmmm, cat=ca,

> Terry=Tee.

> The SLP wants to see Terry for one on one sessions twice a week.

> I am wondering what any of you could offer on what I have said. Any

> words/advice/comments would be greatly appreciated!!

>

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I wanted to ask a question regarding your suggestion to 'get him evaluated by an

OT as well, since many of these children have coordination issues and low

tone.....'. My son is in a PPCD program in which he does receive 1:1 ST.....

however.... I thought the tone issues would be taken care of...or rather worked

on through his ST???? NO?? Tone in voice?? Right? I need to inquire about this

then through the school??? I would appreciate any feedback. Thank you so much.

[ ] Re: New and confused

Really sounds like apraxia. Consider starting omega 3 and vit E, in

addition to the 1:1 ST (which is also critical since your ST suspects

apraxia hopefully is familiar with good approaches for apraxia). Get

him evaluated by an OT as well, since many of these children have

coordination issues and low tone that are not picked up on regular

pediatric exams, but becomes obvious upon special testing. There is

still 6 months left before he turns 3 that you could get some of the

services covered through EI program if you can get him in to be

evaluated. All the private therapy is expensive and whatever help you

can get from the state is a good thing while its available. -

> My son was evaluated by a SLP today and she said she suspects he

has

> Apraxia. She said that children are normally not offically

diagnosed

> with such a disorder until they are 3, and Terry is 30 months old.

>

> Terry did not start talking much at all until about 4-5 months ago,

> and most of his words are not understandable to anyone except me

and

> sometime my husband, because I have taught him.

> For example: fish=key, snake=nay-o, milk=ma, daddy=die, ball=ba,

> balloon=ba, vacuum=ba, star-kwai, airplane=ah, trian=try-a,

> Santa=Sha, present=pee, please=pee, pencil=pee.

> Terry NEVER babbled or cooed as an infant and was really just a

quiet

> toddler for the most part, unless he was crying for something.

Never

> babbleing or cooing though like most babies do.

> His vocabulary was also very limited to about 20-35 words until

> recently. Recently he broke his leg and that has sort of " forced "

him

> into talking more to get his needs met. He has also been watching

> more TV than playing like he used to, and I try to make some of

that

> TV " educational " as well.

>

> Now he has about 80 words he uses, although I understand this is no

> where, where he should be for his age.

>

> Terry will occasionally gag on his food, depending on the texture

of

> what I offer him, and how hungry he is. I have learned not to try

to

> bribe him to eat-or he definitly gags. If he isnt absolutly hungry -

> no matter what time of day - he will gag the food. At first I

thought

> he was being difficult, but he really isnt that kind of child. He

> never has been " difficult " about anything.

> Terry also will use words and then either stop using them

altogether,

> or stop for a day or two or more and then use a different variation

> of the word. Like he used to say dada, but now Dada has

become " die " .

> I have found though, that over time, he has kept and keeps more

words

> than he used to.

> It seems like he can say a portion of a lot of words, but can't

> finish it. Like, Ball=ba, cool=coo, dog= da, moon=mmmmm, cat=ca,

> Terry=Tee.

> The SLP wants to see Terry for one on one sessions twice a week.

> I am wondering what any of you could offer on what I have said. Any

> words/advice/ comments would be greatly appreciated! !

>

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Hi Donna-

You want the adult version of the Nordic Naturals Complete Omega 3-6-9

not the Jr version. You want to start with one, and it is up to you

when you add the second pill: some people wait a month after benefits

are evident, some people wait until they see a plateau in speech

(when they seem to be stalled and not making any more progress)

sometimes as long as 6 months. Good luck!

Penny

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It doesn't have to be junior. When I started my son, I ramped him up

to 6 adult sized caps daily. I'm using Pro Omega -Nordic Naturals -

packs a bigger punch.

You cant over do fish oil. But many of our kids have absorbtion

issues. This will require some research to better understand.

I suggest using a medicine dropper. Clip the ends of the caps,

squeeze into medicine dropper vial, put top back on and squeeze into

childs' mouth. If you try to put it on or in food, you'll waste it

and won't get a consistant dosing. Give it 3 months.

If your child doesn't fit an Autism dx but does fit apraxia - STILL

CONNECT TO THE AUTISM BIOMEDICAL COMMUNITY. It's brain damaged

caused by vaccines, period. Apraxia is just a little bit less

damage. Mainstream Dr.s don't know squat, get a DAN! (defeat autism

now).

hth..

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I wouldnt agree with the statement that you cannot over do fish oil, you

can. You should be careful and watch for side effects, and if they occur back

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Yes, I agree with completly, my daughter did not start making progress in

her speech/behavior until we started the GFCF + other Fs diet/biomed

intervention with B12 shots, PRO EFA EPA + E and carnitine + others she was

severely deficient in.  Now the PROMPT therapy really has an effect and she is

more focused, more compliant, progressing more like a normal child and her

speech went from 25 words to over 500 in about 8 months or less and is just

improving all the time.

My daughter is only diagnosed with apraxia and upper trunk hypotonia, and new

words or more than two syllables or just putting them in sentences and speaking 

can still be a problem, as are certain sequential movements with her hands and

body, so it's not like it completly went away, but we now have hope, her

progress is just amazing.  And she also has the usual neurological soft markers

(hypotonic tongue when in relaxed play, upper body hypotonia, slight on and off

toe walking and minor SID) and she wasn't even vaccinated thankfully but I did

have 5 amalgam fillings during pregnancy and breastfeeding plus we had

additional autoimmune genetic factors (family history of food intolerances and

schizophrenia--all linked to toxic exposure and  viral bacterial and food

intolerances overload) and it is brain damage indeed, but if addressed properly

there is a lot of hope. 

So it's not only vaccines that can do it, but that is certainly what can make it

a lot worse in these genetically susceptible individuals, a flu vaccine is what

triggered the onset of her great-grand-mother's schizophrenia and later

Alzheimer's. So vaccines are a true problem and possible trigger for many kids

but not all--there are unfortunately other toxins and viral/bacterial overload

problems that will do it too and vaccines can indeed make it much worse and even

be the first trigger for some individuals---certainly when they get those

pointless and downright dangerous inoculations within hours of birth--but any

time really and adults are no exception either. That can set the stage for

immune and neurological disorders right there an activate genes that then create

a vicious downward spiral of poor health and neurological illness for life

--particularly if left untreated.

But there is now so much hope, the neuroscience research is starting to come out

and the biomedically trained pediatricians are doing a lot to help these

children. Parents just need to educate themselves and know where to seek help

and how to prioritize the interventions for their child's specific needs.  Good

luck and research the archives for biomed info, PRO EFA EPA + E and other

related topics.

Elena.

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Subject: [ ] Re: new and confused

Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 4:15 AM

It doesn't have to be junior. When I started my son, I ramped him up

to 6 adult sized caps daily. I'm using Pro Omega -Nordic Naturals -

packs a bigger punch.

You cant over do fish oil. But many of our kids have absorbtion

issues. This will require some research to better understand.

I suggest using a medicine dropper. Clip the ends of the caps,

squeeze into medicine dropper vial, put top back on and squeeze into

childs' mouth. If you try to put it on or in food, you'll waste it

and won't get a consistant dosing. Give it 3 months.

If your child doesn't fit an Autism dx but does fit apraxia - STILL

CONNECT TO THE AUTISM BIOMEDICAL COMMUNITY. It's brain damaged

caused by vaccines, period. Apraxia is just a little bit less

damage. Mainstream Dr.s don't know squat, get a DAN! (defeat autism

now).

hth..

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