Re: Trouble with 2 year old

[Guest guest]

As for the not talking, get an evaluation. Speech therapists can get him

to want to talk in the long run and the sooner the better. As for the

potty training, try the potty sign (see signingtime.come website).

personna_newell wrote:

>I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's not

>necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to me is

>that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me or his

>father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other children or

>even try to.

>

>The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't give

>any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us AFTER he's

>gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

>

>How do I potty train him?

>

>Any help will be greatly appreciated!

>

>Blessings,

>Personna N.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi- Im in the same boat (maybe worse?) with my recently adopted quiet

3 year old.....I bought one that makes songs when the pee goes in etc

and am hoping for magic!

>

> I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's

not

> necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to me

is

> that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me or

his

> father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other

children or

> even try to.

>

> The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't

give

> any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us AFTER

he's

> gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

>

> How do I potty train him?

>

> Any help will be greatly appreciated!

>

> Blessings,

> Personna N.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's

not

> necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to me

is

> that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me or

his

> father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other

children or

> even try to.

>

> The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't

give

> any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us AFTER

he's

> gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

>

> How do I potty train him?

>

> Any help will be greatly appreciated!

>

> Blessings,

> Personna N.

>

Hello from florida

My name is Nikki I have a son who is 2 1/2 and will be 3 on Sept 16.

We are fighting with the whole communication thing as well and the

potty thing. I figured after he eats ask of he like to sit on the

big boy potty. My son feels like a big boy when I ask him that. Some

times he will go all by himself and other times he will hide in a

corner and squat making a poopy face thats when i usually catch him

doing it or just about to. So I would follow him around after he

eats or gets a drink and start from there. My son has had blocked

ear drums and could'nt drain on their own we thjought it was normal

to keep getting ear inffections finally no antibiotic was helping.

we go his tubes put in and in about 2 mos. what a difference.

Alittle later we ended up taking the adnoids out as well. No I can

kindof get thge idea of what he is saying but he can ounly pronounce

on most words the the first syllable. Any ideas on how to get him to

speak better or just give it time?

Mother of 1 in Florida

Nikki

[Guest guest]

My son was the same way. He has Autism and did not talk, or point,

or have much eye contact...

Anyway, the only way I think you can potty train him would be if you

can " trip train " him. Take him to the potty as soon as he gets up,

and every hour, and after he drinks.. and freak out with excitement

if he goes on the potty. That way it gives you lot of times

throughout the day to praise him, and he will know that it is " potty

time " Maybe he will wait to go. If you can do it you are better than

I am, I got overwhelmed the 2nd day and my little one who will be 3

this month it totally oblivious to being " dirty " ...

Good luck

>

> I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's

not

> necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to me

is

> that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me or

his

> father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other

children or

> even try to.

>

> The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't

give

> any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us AFTER

he's

> gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

>

> How do I potty train him?

>

> Any help will be greatly appreciated!

>

> Blessings,

> Personna N.

>

[Guest guest]

Personna,

Just my opinion but I would want to explore what is happening with

your son that he is not trying to communicate with you or others. He

is either not able to or choosing not to. To find that out I would

have him evaluated by a professional team. There is NO harm in

having a good team evaluate your son to see if he needs some help to

start communicating.

On the potty training, I'm a strong believer in the fact that you can

not MAKE a child potty train, nor eat or sleep or learn for that

matter. Making it something they want is the key. For my son that

was allowing him to make the decision, so every morning I would

ask, " Do you want to wear a diaper today? Yes or no? " We potty

trained pretty early and easily this way, plus I did it in the summer

where he could run around naked. I found that his being naked helped

him feel when he needed to go. That and I let him cover a toilet

seat with at-ta boy stickers when he did go on the potty

Most importantly, in my mind, is to find if there is a delay or

disability that your son is facing before deciding that it is simply

willfulness.

McCann

>

> I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's

not

> necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to me

is

> that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me or

his

> father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other

children or

> even try to.

>

> The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't

give

> any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us AFTER

he's

> gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

>

> How do I potty train him?

>

> Any help will be greatly appreciated!

>

> Blessings,

> Personna N.

>

[Guest guest]

Please don't jump to conclusions that your son's issues are

behavioral. He may be doing his very best, and if he senses your

disapproval and disappointment he may become discouraged. My son

has never liked " performing " (saying his recently learned word for

exp) for others and sometimes I " catch " him practicing when he

doesn't think anyone can see him.

As for potty training, my pediatrician says anything between 2 and 4

is normal--and that is for a typical child. Speech delays and the

issues that often come with it (motor planning problems, low tone

sensory issues, etc) can make this challenge much harder. Your

child may simply not be ready.

Be patient.

>

> I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's

not

> necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to me

is

> that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me or

his

> father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other

children or

> even try to.

>

> The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't

give

> any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us AFTER

he's

> gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

>

> How do I potty train him?

>

> Any help will be greatly appreciated!

>

> Blessings,

> Personna N.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Personna,

You didn't mention whether your son has a diagnosis or not. Are you

familiar with sensory processing disorder? Children with SPD are

sometimes so undersensitive to stimulae that they literally don't know

that they have had a bowel movement. SPD can also inhibit speech

development. If you have never had your child evaluated, I would

suggest that you find an occupational therapist or developmental

peditatrician ASAP. At least to rule it out. The earlier a child with

SPD, apraxia, global dyspraxia or any disorder with a neurological

basis is treated the better because the Central Nervous System is

still highly " plastic " when children are very young.

Good luck.

Nadine

[Guest guest]

--I too am still facing this issue with my son, and the frustrating

part is deciding whether it is communication ( he can sign potty,

speak it most especially when at restaurants where he wants to visit

the restroom (not go potty)), dyspraxia (the difficulty with motor

planning and timing), or a more difficult organ issue. I am still

trying to figure it out. We have done a kidney ultrasound, but not

the urodynamic study which involves catheters(I don't want to

traumatize him! So for now we keep him in cotton pants as much as

possible, go potty hourly, and keep cleaning up the mess. He seems

to be trying more lately to keep pants dry and I am betting and

praying on the timing thing! I wish you good help as it is certainly

a difficult process. - In

, " srmccann2003 " <smccann@...>

wrote:

>

> Personna,

>

> Just my opinion but I would want to explore what is happening with

> your son that he is not trying to communicate with you or others.

He

> is either not able to or choosing not to. To find that out I

would

> have him evaluated by a professional team. There is NO harm in

> having a good team evaluate your son to see if he needs some help

to

> start communicating.

>

> On the potty training, I'm a strong believer in the fact that you

can

> not MAKE a child potty train, nor eat or sleep or learn for that

> matter. Making it something they want is the key. For my son

that

> was allowing him to make the decision, so every morning I would

> ask, " Do you want to wear a diaper today? Yes or no? " We potty

> trained pretty early and easily this way, plus I did it in the

summer

> where he could run around naked. I found that his being naked

helped

> him feel when he needed to go. That and I let him cover a toilet

> seat with at-ta boy stickers when he did go on the potty

>

> Most importantly, in my mind, is to find if there is a delay or

> disability that your son is facing before deciding that it is

simply

> willfulness.

>

> McCann

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's

> not

> > necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to

me

> is

> > that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me

or

> his

> > father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other

> children or

> > even try to.

> >

> > The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't

> give

> > any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us

AFTER

> he's

> > gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

> >

> > How do I potty train him?

> >

> > Any help will be greatly appreciated!

> >

> > Blessings,

> > Personna N.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > How do I potty train him?

Toilet training a child with special needs can be challenging,

especially if the child is non verbal. Here are some steps that may

help...

1) Document " typical " times that your child actually goes...this can

be achieved by actually taking your child to the bathroom every

twenty to thirty minutes and documenting WET/DRY/BM.

2) Offer more liquid (drinks!). This will help to increase the

chances of " going " in the toilet when visiting every 20-30 minutes!

You won't need to keep going so often..if you docuement, you will see

a " going pattern " .

3) Create a " toilet toy box " of toys and favorite things that can

only be accessed AFTER visiting the bathroom. Start by rewarding for

just a " visit " .

4) After getting some " results " in the bathroom, create

another " toilet toy box " of REWARDS...the child's most FAVORITE

toys/treats. These " specials " can only be accessed after successful

elimination into the toilet.

5) TRY not to punish for accidents. It is EXTREMELY frusterating for

the person implementing the training, but negative responses can

really set a child back.

Even if there is nothing going on in the bathroom...keep it

positive... " thank you for trying...maybe next time. " If they do

go ...sing, dance...celebrate with your child...make it the GREATEST

thing to make pee in the toilet! : )

There are also " toilet training " programs. There is one locally

(Chicago area) called Booty Camp...they have successfully implemented

a training program that EVERY child we know that has participated is

now 100% toilet trained. I will warn you...I also received calls

from most of the mothers a couple of days into the Booy Camp program

and they were crying...VERY FRUSTERATED! If the child doesn't follow

the program...the family can not leave their house. Within about a

week, these mothers were HAPPILY tossing all diapering products!

Kari

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry if this is similar to something else someone posted - I

just don't have time to read all posts today but I have something to

add. My son is extremely hypotonic and did not walk until 3.5 so we

were basically off the hook for potty training during that time. But

when walking - still was not talking. In talking with teachers at his

school (for kids with special needs) they suggested waiting until we

had a communication system that was working with our child before we

started potty training. That meant we had to wait TWO MORE YEARS. And

it was a joint communication strategy of signs, pix and language.

Given he still had serious motor planning issues - it only took six

weeks to get him trained and using the potty (with LOTS of support at

school).

I suggest waiting until you have a way to communicate with your child

before moving this goal ahead. The way I looked at it was that potty

training was the LEAST of my worries - esp b/c he could not attend a

typical preschool (where they usually have requirements of being

potty trained).

HTH,

> >

> > I have a son who's 2 and a half and will be 3 in September. It's

> not

> > necessarily a huge deal that he isn't talking. The big deal to me

> is

> > that he isn't even trying. He'll say ma or dada, but not to me or

> his

> > father (usually when playing alone). He won't talk to other

> children or

> > even try to.

> >

> > The problem now is that I'm trying to potty train him. He won't

> give

> > any indication when he's about to go. He won't even tell us AFTER

> he's

> > gone, and I only know he's pooped if I smell it or check him.

> >

> > How do I potty train him?

> >

> > Any help will be greatly appreciated!

> >

> > Blessings,

> > Personna N.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

My son is 3 and a half and strangly enough He finally kicked in and has b

een potty trained for about 4 months. What did it for us was a number of

things. First off, we invested in a tons of underwear. We began asking him

about

every half hour if he had to potty, it began to annoy him and he would

ignore us. Next we made potty time fun. One of us, would sit on the side of

the

tub while he was on the potty, and we would sing songs and play short song

taught to us by our speech therapist and by my cousin who is a doctor as well

for speech and hearing. Would take him when we had to go and he would

sometimes go. When he went we made a huge deal out of it. Pullup works at

night

and when traveling. Also I found he had a major need to fit, in we let him see

other children going as well. Believe it or not, in daycare, when the

children speak to him he is more like to make a sound or speak. At this age, I

think other children help a great deal, they are all learning to talk so its

not a big deal. When they dont understand him they will say stop

talking like that, or talk right, he then want to make the effort out

of

sheer stubbornesss.

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[Guest guest]

yes I can agree 2 yr olds can be hard to train but in the end it all

paies off!!!

[Guest guest]

this is the thing, there is a thing called bribe, Me I bribe my son and

if he starts to not talk I bribe him work all the time

>Worker

[Guest guest]

Thank you all very much for this very valuable advice. I'll be sure to put it to

good use!!! You may not hear very much from me, but I will be reading the posts

in this group. I don't know much about this condition and I just want to learn

more so that I can help my son.

Thank you,

Personna N.

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