Guest guest Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Sue, Hi. My name is Sherry and although I have followed this group for about 2 years I rarely post. I had my RNY Gastric Bypass on 8/27/01. In regards to your Wellbutrin plight please allow me to add my 2 cents. I have taken Wellbutrin SR for about 6 years with great success. It has continued to do well even after WLS. But it does keep me awake if I take it anywhere close to bedtime. So, I try never to take my second dose after 5 or 6 PM. I am on a dosage of 200 mg. twice a day (400 mg total). This has worked just fine as far a spacing it out goes and doesn't ever bother my sleep. I'm certainly not a doctor but thought this might help you. Take it for what it is worth and let me know what you think. Blessings, Sherry srr@... 270# 8/27/01 130# Now At 04:06 PM 2/21/2003 -0800, Sue Barr wrote: >Not sure if this will go through, as Yahoo seems to be up to no good >again. But I have yet another question about wellbutrin. >Good news is that since I've been on it I've lost 8 pounds, bad news is >that I'm not sleeping again. Even with taking an ativan before I go to >bed, it's still taking me an hour to get to sleep and after about 4 hours >I am wide awake with all my worries and stresses racing through my >brain. I've even tried taking an ambien or sonata at that point but >after 2 more hours of laying in bed I get up. >My pcp isn't 100% sure this is the proper med for me but it's what my >therapist wants me on. Therapist says when I get tired I'll >sleep! Somehow I don't see that happening soon. I'm thinking that I am >absorbing the wellbutrin SR if it's effecting my sleep pattern but what a >way to find out. >So my friends...whatcha think? When will Sue sleep again, or will Lola >have to take over while Sue goes quietly and slowly out of her mind from >lack of sleep! > >Sue in Las Vegas >I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet > when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Sue, Hi. My name is Sherry and although I have followed this group for about 2 years I rarely post. I had my RNY Gastric Bypass on 8/27/01. In regards to your Wellbutrin plight please allow me to add my 2 cents. I have taken Wellbutrin SR for about 6 years with great success. It has continued to do well even after WLS. But it does keep me awake if I take it anywhere close to bedtime. So, I try never to take my second dose after 5 or 6 PM. I am on a dosage of 200 mg. twice a day (400 mg total). This has worked just fine as far a spacing it out goes and doesn't ever bother my sleep. I'm certainly not a doctor but thought this might help you. Take it for what it is worth and let me know what you think. Blessings, Sherry srr@... 270# 8/27/01 130# Now At 04:06 PM 2/21/2003 -0800, Sue Barr wrote: >Not sure if this will go through, as Yahoo seems to be up to no good >again. But I have yet another question about wellbutrin. >Good news is that since I've been on it I've lost 8 pounds, bad news is >that I'm not sleeping again. Even with taking an ativan before I go to >bed, it's still taking me an hour to get to sleep and after about 4 hours >I am wide awake with all my worries and stresses racing through my >brain. I've even tried taking an ambien or sonata at that point but >after 2 more hours of laying in bed I get up. >My pcp isn't 100% sure this is the proper med for me but it's what my >therapist wants me on. Therapist says when I get tired I'll >sleep! Somehow I don't see that happening soon. I'm thinking that I am >absorbing the wellbutrin SR if it's effecting my sleep pattern but what a >way to find out. >So my friends...whatcha think? When will Sue sleep again, or will Lola >have to take over while Sue goes quietly and slowly out of her mind from >lack of sleep! > >Sue in Las Vegas >I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet > when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 I take non SR Wellbutrin...100mg 3 times a day. My last dose is at bed time. I also take my Clonazapam at that time and I have NOOOOO problem sleeping. If I get woken up in the middle of the night...I do have a problem falling back off to sleep. Maybe I will try taking the Wellbutrin a Little earlier in the day. Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 I take non SR Wellbutrin...100mg 3 times a day. My last dose is at bed time. I also take my Clonazapam at that time and I have NOOOOO problem sleeping. If I get woken up in the middle of the night...I do have a problem falling back off to sleep. Maybe I will try taking the Wellbutrin a Little earlier in the day. Debbie in Gig Harbor ladybostons@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 I take Wellbutrin. Sometimes it makes me a little... restless or anxious, I think that's why my Dr. also has me taking Zoloft... to kind of balance things out. Do you take the regular, or purple time- released ones? I know we're not suppose to take time released stuff, but that's what my Dr. prescribed. I'm wondering if that's why sometimes I feel it's not working and sometime I feel like it's working too much. Tigger > Well add me to the list of wellbutrin users. I started 2 days ago and > have had a headache since the first pill, has anyone else experience > this? the pharmacist said I may have some drowsiness or dizziness and > dry mouth until I got use to it I wonder if headache is included. > any toughts? > > Thanks, Ann > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 I take Wellbutrin. Sometimes it makes me a little... restless or anxious, I think that's why my Dr. also has me taking Zoloft... to kind of balance things out. Do you take the regular, or purple time- released ones? I know we're not suppose to take time released stuff, but that's what my Dr. prescribed. I'm wondering if that's why sometimes I feel it's not working and sometime I feel like it's working too much. Tigger > Well add me to the list of wellbutrin users. I started 2 days ago and > have had a headache since the first pill, has anyone else experience > this? the pharmacist said I may have some drowsiness or dizziness and > dry mouth until I got use to it I wonder if headache is included. > any toughts? > > Thanks, Ann > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 I personally have never experienced this. You might want to mention it to your doctor next time you go. My only thought is that there are so many things that can cause a headache. It may be related and, then again, it may just be coincidence. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:25:18 -0800 (PST) White_Spectra@... writes: > > Well add me to the list of wellbutrin users. I started 2 days ago > and > have had a headache since the first pill, has anyone else > experience > this? the pharmacist said I may have some drowsiness or dizziness > and > dry mouth until I got use to it I wonder if headache is included. > any toughts? > > Thanks, Ann > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 I personally have never experienced this. You might want to mention it to your doctor next time you go. My only thought is that there are so many things that can cause a headache. It may be related and, then again, it may just be coincidence. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:25:18 -0800 (PST) White_Spectra@... writes: > > Well add me to the list of wellbutrin users. I started 2 days ago > and > have had a headache since the first pill, has anyone else > experience > this? the pharmacist said I may have some drowsiness or dizziness > and > dry mouth until I got use to it I wonder if headache is included. > any toughts? > > Thanks, Ann > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 I'm curious if anybody > > > knows of another antidepresant that has few sexual > > > side affects? While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know anything about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. Has it worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember there was a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't remember what it was about!! THANKS, P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 I'm curious if anybody > > > knows of another antidepresant that has few sexual > > > side affects? While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know anything about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. Has it worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember there was a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't remember what it was about!! THANKS, P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 , from what I've read and heard about St. 's Wort (and I have a good friend who has taken it for years), it has the possibility of the same side effects of any other antidepressant, herbal or not. Being herbal doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. It's still a CHEMICAL in that herb that has the effect. It has a KNOWN medical effect. Otherwise, why would you take it? My problem with taking something that has the purpose and effect of an antidepressant is this: There is no professional regulating your dosage. If you were on Paxil, for example, you might require 10 mg, 20 mg, 30 mg, or 40 mg (the maximum RECOMMENDED dosage). Dosages can very according to a number of factors, from weight to age to level and degree of depression. I'd be very frightened at trying to make the determination of what I need on my own. I've been on antidepressants for a number of years, and I've tried a number of different ones, UNDER A DOCTOR'S SUPERVISION, to find what works best for me. In matters such as this, I certainly don't advocate self medication, and that's what taking SJW is. I'm not saying that it doesn't have medical value, but I'd sure talk it over with a trusted physician before I started taking it. That's just my opinion. And I don't know a thing about Kava Kava, but my opinion would remain the same, I'm sure. <VBG> Jac ''Always saddle your own horse.''-- Connie Reeves, at age 100, upon induction to the Cowgirl Hall of Fame " Head up, heels down. " mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 , from what I've read and heard about St. 's Wort (and I have a good friend who has taken it for years), it has the possibility of the same side effects of any other antidepressant, herbal or not. Being herbal doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. It's still a CHEMICAL in that herb that has the effect. It has a KNOWN medical effect. Otherwise, why would you take it? My problem with taking something that has the purpose and effect of an antidepressant is this: There is no professional regulating your dosage. If you were on Paxil, for example, you might require 10 mg, 20 mg, 30 mg, or 40 mg (the maximum RECOMMENDED dosage). Dosages can very according to a number of factors, from weight to age to level and degree of depression. I'd be very frightened at trying to make the determination of what I need on my own. I've been on antidepressants for a number of years, and I've tried a number of different ones, UNDER A DOCTOR'S SUPERVISION, to find what works best for me. In matters such as this, I certainly don't advocate self medication, and that's what taking SJW is. I'm not saying that it doesn't have medical value, but I'd sure talk it over with a trusted physician before I started taking it. That's just my opinion. And I don't know a thing about Kava Kava, but my opinion would remain the same, I'm sure. <VBG> Jac ''Always saddle your own horse.''-- Connie Reeves, at age 100, upon induction to the Cowgirl Hall of Fame " Head up, heels down. " mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 I have not heard anything about the Kava Kava except from my chiropractor who said not to use it. As far as St 's Wort is concerned, it does not work on all kinds of depressions. I have had to experiment with antidepressants to find the right one and then to find the right dosage. Personally, if I were going to use the St 's Wort, I would talk with a physician first to monitor the depression. It is a form of accountability. If you choose to take it, you need to add this to the list of medications you are on and remember to tell your physicians, surgeons, anestisiologist, dentist, etc. This is a herb that needs to be stopped before undergoing surgery including dental stuff. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:49:52 -0500 " nancy pugliese " writes: > While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know > anything > about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. > Has it > worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember > there was > a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't > remember > what it was about!! THANKS, P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 I have not heard anything about the Kava Kava except from my chiropractor who said not to use it. As far as St 's Wort is concerned, it does not work on all kinds of depressions. I have had to experiment with antidepressants to find the right one and then to find the right dosage. Personally, if I were going to use the St 's Wort, I would talk with a physician first to monitor the depression. It is a form of accountability. If you choose to take it, you need to add this to the list of medications you are on and remember to tell your physicians, surgeons, anestisiologist, dentist, etc. This is a herb that needs to be stopped before undergoing surgery including dental stuff. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:49:52 -0500 " nancy pugliese " writes: > While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know > anything > about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. > Has it > worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember > there was > a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't > remember > what it was about!! THANKS, P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 > > While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know > > anything about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. > > Has it worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember > > there was a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't > > remember what it was about!! I've used St. 's Wort in conjunction with a high b-complex vitamin (like Stress-Tabs), and it worked very well. My PCP told me not to take it WITH other antidepressants, and to give it more time to work than prescription antidepressants. We worked together on it, and his advice was that if I wanted to go back to prescriptions, I should stop taking the SJW. I haven't been on prescriptions for a number of years now. I don't take SJW daily as I would a prescription, but just for short terms of 6 months or less. I wouldn't take Kava Kava if they gave it away. It has hallucinogenic properties if taken in too high a dose (I know a lot of young people who use it just for that purpose), and the one time I took it, I had a very adverse reaction, heart palpitations, jittery, short of breath, just scary. I'm amazed it's still not only legal, but available in any supermarket. Teenagers who are into psychedelic experiences love this. ~~ Lyn G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 > > While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know > > anything about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. > > Has it worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember > > there was a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't > > remember what it was about!! I've used St. 's Wort in conjunction with a high b-complex vitamin (like Stress-Tabs), and it worked very well. My PCP told me not to take it WITH other antidepressants, and to give it more time to work than prescription antidepressants. We worked together on it, and his advice was that if I wanted to go back to prescriptions, I should stop taking the SJW. I haven't been on prescriptions for a number of years now. I don't take SJW daily as I would a prescription, but just for short terms of 6 months or less. I wouldn't take Kava Kava if they gave it away. It has hallucinogenic properties if taken in too high a dose (I know a lot of young people who use it just for that purpose), and the one time I took it, I had a very adverse reaction, heart palpitations, jittery, short of breath, just scary. I'm amazed it's still not only legal, but available in any supermarket. Teenagers who are into psychedelic experiences love this. ~~ Lyn G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Thanks to all for the responses about the Kava and ST. 's. I guess this " self dosing " isn't a good idea. I was just soooo hoping to avoid a doc's office. I have had HORRIBLE luck with anti-depressant in the past and just don't feel up to another round of failure..........knowing that it will take months to figure it out........what to do?? Thanks, Re: Re: wellbutrin > I have not heard anything about the Kava Kava except from my chiropractor > who said not to use it. As far as St 's Wort is concerned, it does > not work on all kinds of depressions. I have had to experiment with > antidepressants to find the right one and then to find the right dosage. > Personally, if I were going to use the St 's Wort, I would talk with > a physician first to monitor the depression. It is a form of > accountability. If you choose to take it, you need to add this to the > list of medications you are on and remember to tell your physicians, > surgeons, anestisiologist, dentist, etc. This is a herb that needs to be > stopped before undergoing surgery including dental stuff. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. > Current Weight 335 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:49:52 -0500 " nancy pugliese " > writes: > > While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know > > anything > > about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. > > Has it > > worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember > > there was > > a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't > > remember > > what it was about!! THANKS, P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Thanks to all for the responses about the Kava and ST. 's. I guess this " self dosing " isn't a good idea. I was just soooo hoping to avoid a doc's office. I have had HORRIBLE luck with anti-depressant in the past and just don't feel up to another round of failure..........knowing that it will take months to figure it out........what to do?? Thanks, Re: Re: wellbutrin > I have not heard anything about the Kava Kava except from my chiropractor > who said not to use it. As far as St 's Wort is concerned, it does > not work on all kinds of depressions. I have had to experiment with > antidepressants to find the right one and then to find the right dosage. > Personally, if I were going to use the St 's Wort, I would talk with > a physician first to monitor the depression. It is a form of > accountability. If you choose to take it, you need to add this to the > list of medications you are on and remember to tell your physicians, > surgeons, anestisiologist, dentist, etc. This is a herb that needs to be > stopped before undergoing surgery including dental stuff. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. > SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. > Current Weight 335 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:49:52 -0500 " nancy pugliese " > writes: > > While you guys have your thinking caps on......does anyone know > > anything > > about or have any experience with St. 's Wort and/or Kava Kava. > > Has it > > worked for you or anyone you know? Any side effects? I remember > > there was > > a " bad " report about Kava Kava not to long ago......I just can't > > remember > > what it was about!! THANKS, P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 Patty, Your daughter takes Wellbutrin for pain? I thought that was only used for depression & ADD. I've never heard of it taken for pain. Do you know how it works to stop or decrease pain? I'm very curious about this now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 The Wellbutrin is for very, very minor pain. It is used for several things including, depression, ADHD, pain and to stop smoking to name a few. the pain thing was not really the main issue when she was put on it. this disease is hard and depressing on anyone but think of the kids who never get to expereince life because of it. We have always been very truthfull with her about Cp and the possible courses it could take. She also has a say in her care and treatment. Though we know that it is the right thing to do, I also know that this is the source of some of her depression. I'm not sure how it works on pain, I just know that for a little while it seemed to work, now it does nothing for her pain. At the time she was put on it she was rating her pain at a 2 - 3, now she is rating it between 5 and 7. Depending on activity level and when she last ate. God bless and I hope you have a pain free day. Patty Hurst Bangor, ME Maine State Rep PAI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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