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Hi Peggi:

At first researchers into OCD thought that OCDers were brighter than

average. Then I think they realized that this was more likely due to the

fact that their patients were more likely to seek treatment if they were

better educated and heard about OCD. More recent research has included

treatments oriented to helping those with MR and other conditions. It

seems that OCD is an equal opportunity disorder. There still is a lot of

anecdotal stuff about OCDers being smart and intelligent.

Our Steve is classified gifted and talented (GT). He is also classified

504. I do think that being able to focus the mind on something very

specific seems to be an early predecessor for him in moving along to full

blown OCD. That ability has also helped him considerably in school. For

me this combination of OCD and being gifted is a cruel one. It caused us a

lot of grief because there is so much potential which is so fragile because

OCD can flare up and pull the rug out from under Steve when he using his

gifts. Also teachers sometimes find it hard to believe he needs much help

or understanding because he is such a good student. Sometimes I wish they

would appreciate the truly miraculous nature of his accomplishments and how

fragile his successes really are.

Take care, aloha, kathy (H)

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OK I think I will probably bug the daylights out of you for a while with

>>questions.

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>> How many of your kids are gifted? How many are learning disabled? I have

>>both. is 10 and is extremely bright. ( he read Jurassic Park when he

>>was 7). is 8 and is learning disabled (not reading even 3 letter

>>words yet nor can he recognize double digit numbers)

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>>Is the range for OCD kids for gifted typical and learning disabled the same

>>as the general public or do most of the kids have an extreme?

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>>Peggikaye: myasthenia gravis and osteoarthritis migraines, asthma,

>>

>> wife to Don: post polio syndrome and barrettes esophagus

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>>Mom to AKA Bug: IgG subclass 2 deficient; OCD; trichotillomania:

mild

>>hearing loss;

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>>Mom to AKA Taz: IgG deficient; PDD- NOS; Tourettes Syndrome;

>

>> mild OCD; SID; asthma; auditory processing disorder; esophageal

>>reflux; pyloric spasm; visual motor delays and astigmatism; Arnold Chiari

>>malformation type 1; bifrontal lobe atrophy, and migraine syndrome

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Hi Peggi:

At first researchers into OCD thought that OCDers were brighter than

average. Then I think they realized that this was more likely due to the

fact that their patients were more likely to seek treatment if they were

better educated and heard about OCD. More recent research has included

treatments oriented to helping those with MR and other conditions. It

seems that OCD is an equal opportunity disorder. There still is a lot of

anecdotal stuff about OCDers being smart and intelligent.

Our Steve is classified gifted and talented (GT). He is also classified

504. I do think that being able to focus the mind on something very

specific seems to be an early predecessor for him in moving along to full

blown OCD. That ability has also helped him considerably in school. For

me this combination of OCD and being gifted is a cruel one. It caused us a

lot of grief because there is so much potential which is so fragile because

OCD can flare up and pull the rug out from under Steve when he using his

gifts. Also teachers sometimes find it hard to believe he needs much help

or understanding because he is such a good student. Sometimes I wish they

would appreciate the truly miraculous nature of his accomplishments and how

fragile his successes really are.

Take care, aloha, kathy (H)

kathyh@...

You wrote;

OK I think I will probably bug the daylights out of you for a while with

>>questions.

>>

>> How many of your kids are gifted? How many are learning disabled? I have

>>both. is 10 and is extremely bright. ( he read Jurassic Park when he

>>was 7). is 8 and is learning disabled (not reading even 3 letter

>>words yet nor can he recognize double digit numbers)

>>

>>Is the range for OCD kids for gifted typical and learning disabled the same

>>as the general public or do most of the kids have an extreme?

>>

>>Peggikaye: myasthenia gravis and osteoarthritis migraines, asthma,

>>

>> wife to Don: post polio syndrome and barrettes esophagus

>>

>>Mom to AKA Bug: IgG subclass 2 deficient; OCD; trichotillomania:

mild

>>hearing loss;

>>

>>Mom to AKA Taz: IgG deficient; PDD- NOS; Tourettes Syndrome;

>

>> mild OCD; SID; asthma; auditory processing disorder; esophageal

>>reflux; pyloric spasm; visual motor delays and astigmatism; Arnold Chiari

>>malformation type 1; bifrontal lobe atrophy, and migraine syndrome

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Peggikaye,

My son is both gifted and Learning Disabled! The two are not mutually

exclusive. His giftedness has helped him compensate for his disability, but

it is exhausting him (esp. with OCD included). The school staff was very

frustrated (until diagnosis) with this obviously very bright child who seemed

to struggle so much

Elaine-Devon

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Elaine-Devon,

My son is also gifted and learning disabled with OCD and TS. Life is a

challenge! I want to homeschool but my husband thinks that is too

dependent on me ( it seems like he has a love/hate relationship with me) and

needs to learn how to deal with other kids and teachers. He embarrasses our

other three daughters at school tremendously with his sometimes outrageous

behavior. At other times, he is sweet, funny, and wonderful.

It must be the time of year, but it seems like a number of people on this

list are dealing with academic issues right now. It is frustrating to see my

son fall behind. I think it is because he is trying to deal with his OCD and

is having trouble concentrating on school. He loves math and does well.

Reading is a terrible struggle and this is hard on me because I am a reading

specialist and have helped so many kids to learn to read and I can't even

seem to help my own son!

He is adopted from Korea and currently he tells me that he wants to go back

and that I should have just left him there. But, that is another issue.

Sigh.

in CA

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>Peggikaye,

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> My son is both gifted and Learning Disabled! The two are not mutually

>exclusive. His giftedness has helped him compensate for his disability,

but

>it is exhausting him (esp. with OCD included). The school staff was very

>frustrated (until diagnosis) with this obviously very bright child who

seemed

>to struggle so much

>

>Elaine-Devon

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Okay - I am sorry - I know the questions are getting redundant here - is

there any way to set up a data base on the home page that can list the

answers we are all asking? You know - how much, what kind, when....I think

it may be easier - just a suggestion

I have another question - for those of you using a syringe or dropper - how

in the world are you getting them cleaned when you are done!!!!

I would also love to know more on this coremega stuff - is it easier to

give - I have aggravated my sons reflux to the point is out of control

because he gags so much on the oils....

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> If you are planning on giving a total of 800 IU a day of the alpha,

> I suggest you get a pure alpha (400 IU) and give 2 of the brand you

> bought in the am, and the pure alpha in the pm. Not sure you want

> 800 mg of gamma. We just don't know, but that's a large gamma dose.

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>> Oh thanks so much ....

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>> Should they be getting 2 in the AM and 2 in the PM????

>> >We just got the vitamin E that uses. It is the one by

>> > Vitamin World " High Gamma Tocopherol " it has, if I understand

>> > correctly 200 I.U. of d-Alpha Tocopherol and 200mg of d-Gamma

>> > Tocopherol amongst its ingredients. I hope it is the right one -

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>> >You should give the 400 IU at one time (2 pills). -

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>> I appreciate all you do for us!

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>> and the amazing zoocrew

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" ...for those of you using a syringe or dropper - how in the world

are you getting them cleaned when you are done!!!!... "

I wash my Safety First Medicine Syringe in very hot water and I put

some liquid hand detergent in it and rinse it out very well. The Vit

E is very hard to get out! The last type I had was " water soluble "

but it was synthetic Vit E which is what I don't want.

I use Q-Tips. I hold one end with tweezers so I can reach the bottom

of the syringe. I have to use both sides of 3-4 Q-Tips to clean out

all the oil! (I rinse in hot water before I use the syringe again.)

I can't use a fatter and easier to clean medicine syringe as my son

gags on anything else.

I give my son all his Vit E in the am so in the pm when he gets his

second dose of fish oils I don't have to do my Q-Tip cleaning again!

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