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Just a quick reminder to ask you guys to please make sure you delete the

previous text from your e-mails. Unless quoting is necessary we need to

remember that some people pay a lot of money for their e-mail service and in

some cases it's based on length of the e-mails. Thanks!

Cindy

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Why wouldn't you go on webmail if there's a fee for getting emails?

Then you could look at messages whenever you want using Netscape or

Internet Explorer, and not pay a fee. I love the Webmail interface.

Take care,

RH

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RH,

I don't really have an answer for you on that one, however it is typical e-mail

list Netiquette to not leave complete posts at the end of a reply when you send

it. Many e-mail servers do this and it's just common courtesy to get rid of it

so others (especially people on this list that have visual problems) don't have

to weed through it. I noticed there were some e-mails where there were 2, 3 and

sometimes 4 other replies at the bottom below the person's response.

Cindy

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My take on this, as I've said here before, has to do with the way SOMETIMES

the trailer of replies to replies to replies gets really gigantic, and

FURTHERMORE has no relevance to the latest " conversation " of a given single

email.

This is really just a pain when you get the email in digest (up to 25

messages at a time) as I do, and have to scroll a very long way (sometimes

overshooting and having to back up) just to get to the next message. For

example, I've seen posts where the trailers are about something entirely

different that just happened to trigger a back-and-forth discussion.

So it's a courtesy to people like me, to snip off old stuff WHEN IT'S

IRRELEVANT. But it's not always irrelevant. I found it actually a bit

amusing, that Cindy's original post on this subject had no trailers, not

needing any, but then both RH in her reply, and Cindy in her reply to RH,

scrupulously snipped off everything after their own latest remarks. This

rendered each of their responses potentially confusing, insofar as you must

know what the conversation is about (from having followed it previously) in

order to fully decipher the meaning.

So in other words (double meaning intended), snip away, but there's no need

to obliterate a small amount of trailer if it makes a post self-clarifying.

Reminds me of an amusing suggestion (I don't recall the author) that a

solution to a problem should be as simple as possible, but no simpler. :-)

Steve D.

P.S. The original reason for this long-standing Netiquette is that the total

TIME to get a single email up on your screen (webmail or ANYother way)

depends on the total message SIZE. In the old days at very slow dial-up

speeds, it was excruciating to wait a long time for a (frequently) short

message and it's lengthy sometimes-irrelevant trailers. This point is less

true now, but still relevant for us throw-backs that don't have high-speed

internet (like me).

> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:09:09 -0600

>

> Subject: Re: Re: list e-mail reminder

>

> RH,

>

> I don't really have an answer for you on that one, however it is typical

e-mail list Netiquette to not leave complete posts at the end of a reply

when you send it. Many e-mail servers do this and it's just common courtesy

to get rid of it so others (especially people on this list that have visual

problems) don't have to weed through it. I noticed there were some e-mails

where there were 2, 3 and sometimes 4 other replies at the bottom below the

person's response.

>

> Cindy

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> So in other words (double meaning intended), snip away, but there's

> no need to obliterate a small amount of trailer if it makes a post

> self-clarifying.

I just want to reiterate that some of us have cognitive issues, some

of us have hearing issues, some of us have vision issues. Minimizing

unnecessary text should help everybody, but also not all of us are

cognitively 100% when composing our emails.

On the other hand, it could help if people write " LONG " at the end of

their subject if the email is more than 50 lines, then we would know

when we're in for a long read (either because of quotes or a long

story).

Maybe someone can find us a brief " netiquette " / " news group etiquette "

list, or do a custom one for .

Take care,

RH

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