Re: HELP!!! FOOT RASH!!! STUPID DOCTOR!!!

[Guest guest]

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It does sound like maybe some kind of heat rash-y thing. I'd wash her feet

really well, make sure they are very dry, a thin coat (kind of hard to do) of

lanolin, thin socks, shoes. If the shoes are making it lots worse and she seems

to be in pain, listen to her!

Is she prone to very sweaty feet? Has it been really warm all of the sudden?

Have you used a different laundry detergent, fabric softener, anything like

that? Could possibly be an allergic reaction.

Make sure she's sock-less tomorrow during her time out of the FAB.

Sorry to not be more helpful...

Naomi

The Family

Naomi Hannah(02/21/01) Jonah(06/20/03, bilateral clubfoot, FAB 14/7)

redskline123@...> wrote:

HEEELLLLPPPP!!! I just noticed Ava has a rash all over her foot...it's

like little tiny red spots all over the top & bottom. She's due to get

her shoes back on in 1 hour...so I paged my ped & the other idiot

doctor called back & said (surprise surprise) just leave her shoes off

for the weekend & come in on Monday. I said no way, jose! Can't do

that, foot could relapse blah blah blah. " 48 hours won't make a

difference " says he, quite annoyed. Yes! It CAN!! says I! " Well, I

can't make a diagnosis over the phone, so just leave the shoes off and

come in on Monday. " Before our conversation broke down to the point of

me yelling, I just said GOODBYE and hung up--obviously he is of no

help whatsoever! SO WHAT DO I DO?????? I'm thinking maybe a nice coat

of lansinoh or diaper rash cream and thin cotton socks & shoes...it's

probably from sweating??? I hope????

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!

& Ava

[Guest guest]

Are her hands doing it too? I doubt this is it, but the one thing I always

think when I hear spots on feet is Hand Foot and Mouth. Which isn't such

a huge deal if she's got it, but it is contagious and you want to treat it

properly if it is HFM.

Is she eating well still? Fever? If you see spots on her hands check her

mouth/throat. You may see ulcers in there which hurt when swallowing, thus

the not eating.

OK - just wanted to point that out because I didn't know what it was when

it happened here but it's probably just a rash in your case. How's she

doing now?

Kori

At 06:06 PM 5/13/2005, you wrote:

>HEEELLLLPPPP!!! I just noticed Ava has a rash all over her foot...it's

>like little tiny red spots all over the top & bottom. She's due to get

>her shoes back on in 1 hour...so I paged my ped & the other idiot

>doctor called back & said (surprise surprise) just leave her shoes off

>for the weekend & come in on Monday. I said no way, jose! Can't do

>that, foot could relapse blah blah blah. " 48 hours won't make a

>difference " says he, quite annoyed. Yes! It CAN!! says I! " Well, I

>can't make a diagnosis over the phone, so just leave the shoes off and

>come in on Monday. " Before our conversation broke down to the point of

>me yelling, I just said GOODBYE and hung up--obviously he is of no

>help whatsoever! SO WHAT DO I DO?????? I'm thinking maybe a nice coat

>of lansinoh or diaper rash cream and thin cotton socks & shoes...it's

>probably from sweating??? I hope????

>SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!

> & Ava

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's not HFM..my older daughter had that. The rash went away on her

feet, then she woke up with a fever around 4:30 last night. I gave

her tylenol, and the fever went away, but now today she's got the

rash on her feet, and all over her back, belly, neck, cheeks and

arms. It doesn't seem to bother her, so I gave her an oatmeal bath

and I'm just going to let it be. I think it's probably roseola. It

just freaked me out because it was only on her feet at first, so of

course I immediately figured it was shoe related. The older two each

took a turn with a fever and sleeping alot, 1 night, Neve on

Wednesday & on last night...actually not a bad little sickness

IMO! :-) THey were both fine in the morning, no rash. Oh well! I

guess this is what you expect when you have 3 kids!

Thanks!

, mommy of:

Guinevere, on & Ava 8/4/04 RCF ABS FAB 18/7

> >HEEELLLLPPPP!!! I just noticed Ava has a rash all over her

foot...it's

> >like little tiny red spots all over the top & bottom. She's due

to get

> >her shoes back on in 1 hour...so I paged my ped & the other idiot

> >doctor called back & said (surprise surprise) just leave her

shoes off

> >for the weekend & come in on Monday. I said no way, jose! Can't do

> >that, foot could relapse blah blah blah. " 48 hours won't make a

> >difference " says he, quite annoyed. Yes! It CAN!! says I! " Well, I

> >can't make a diagnosis over the phone, so just leave the shoes

off and

> >come in on Monday. " Before our conversation broke down to the

point of

> >me yelling, I just said GOODBYE and hung up--obviously he is of no

> >help whatsoever! SO WHAT DO I DO?????? I'm thinking maybe a nice

coat

> >of lansinoh or diaper rash cream and thin http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

20socks " onmouseover= " window.status='cotton socks'; return true; "

onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks &

shoes...it's

> >probably from sweating??? I hope????

> >SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!

> > & Ava

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

its all over now? Kinda like a rough bumpy, almost sandpapery rash? Have

you considered scarlet fever? Your description of the rash coming on all

over the body like that is exactly how we experienced it. If you search

scarlet fever online you can find some dermatology pictures of the rash

associated with it to compare with. It's strep throat basically. We just

got our education on scarlet fever here in the past year too. HFM was last

summer, scarlet fever 3x for Kenton this year and once each for the little

ones. I hate sending them to school sometimes... they bring home some fun

stuff!

Poor little girl, I hope you figure it out soon. I'd be willing to bet

it's scarlet fever if it fits the description, but I'm no doc of course

(although I was right every time I saw the doc for it this past year going

in saying it was SF - that rash is pretty unmistakable IMO). It does come

with a fairly high fever for a few days and it's treated with antibiotics

really only to prevent Rheumatic Fever which is scarlet fever gone bad. In

many cases it will go away on it's own our doc said.

Feel better soon Ava!

Kori

At 10:14 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote:

>It's not HFM..my older daughter had that. The rash went away on her

>feet, then she woke up with a fever around 4:30 last night. I gave

>her tylenol, and the fever went away, but now today she's got the

>rash on her feet, and all over her back, belly, neck, cheeks and

>arms. It doesn't seem to bother her, so I gave her an oatmeal bath

>and I'm just going to let it be. I think it's probably roseola. It

>just freaked me out because it was only on her feet at first, so of

>course I immediately figured it was shoe related. The older two each

>took a turn with a fever and sleeping alot, 1 night, Neve on

>Wednesday & on last night...actually not a bad little sickness

>IMO! :-) THey were both fine in the morning, no rash. Oh well! I

>guess this is what you expect when you have 3 kids!

>Thanks!

>, mommy of:

>Guinevere, on & Ava 8/4/04 RCF ABS FAB 18/7

>

>

> > >HEEELLLLPPPP!!! I just noticed Ava has a rash all over her

>foot...it's

> > >like little tiny red spots all over the top & bottom. She's due

>to get

> > >her shoes back on in 1 hour...so I paged my ped & the other idiot

> > >doctor called back & said (surprise surprise) just leave her

>shoes off

> > >for the weekend & come in on Monday. I said no way, jose! Can't do

> > >that, foot could relapse blah blah blah. " 48 hours won't make a

> > >difference " says he, quite annoyed. Yes! It CAN!! says I! " Well, I

> > >can't make a diagnosis over the phone, so just leave the shoes

>off and

> > >come in on Monday. " Before our conversation broke down to the

>point of

> > >me yelling, I just said GOODBYE and hung up--obviously he is of no

> > >help whatsoever! SO WHAT DO I DO?????? I'm thinking maybe a nice

>coat

> > >of lansinoh or diaper rash cream and thin href= " http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

>20socks " onmouseover= " window.status='cotton socks'; return true; "

>onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks &

>shoes...it's

> > >probably from sweating??? I hope????

> > >SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!

> > > & Ava

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Oh, Kori, it's getting better & better! Now all three little monkeys

have it! The baby has it the worst, head to toe, on just broke

out today with big bright red blotches on his cheeks, and some on

his back & belly, and Neve got it yesterday afternoon, started with

the bright red cheeks and spread to her arms, chest & back. She's

the least severe. I'll have to look into scarlet fever

now...although I had my MIL look at the baby on Saturday (when the

rash first started) and she didn't mention SF. She's an RN, and my

DH (her son) had scarlet fever when he was little, so she's always a

little paranoid about that one...I don't know what to! I just know I

DON'T feel like trooping all 3 to the pedi tomorrow for $45 in

office visit fees!!! ;-D

> > > >HEEELLLLPPPP!!! I just noticed Ava has a rash all over her

> >foot...it's

> > > >like little tiny red spots all over the top & bottom. She's

due

> >to get

> > > >her shoes back on in 1 hour...so I paged my ped & the other

idiot

> > > >doctor called back & said (surprise surprise) just leave her

> >shoes off

> > > >for the weekend & come in on Monday. I said no way, jose!

Can't do

> > > >that, foot could relapse blah blah blah. " 48 hours won't make

a

> > > >difference " says he, quite annoyed. Yes! It CAN!! says

I! " Well, I

> > > >can't make a diagnosis over the phone, so just leave the shoes

> >off and

> > > >come in on Monday. " Before our conversation broke down to the

> >point of

> > > >me yelling, I just said GOODBYE and hung up--obviously he is

of no

> > > >help whatsoever! SO WHAT DO I DO?????? I'm thinking maybe a

nice

> >coat

> > > >of lansinoh or diaper rash cream and thin >href= " http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

> >20socks " onmouseover= " window.status='http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

20socks " onmouseover= " window.status='cotton socks'; return true; "

onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks';

return true; "

> >onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks &

> >shoes...it's

> > > >probably from sweating??? I hope????

> > > >SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!

> > > > & Ava

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

If it isn't scarlet fever I'll eat my hat! LOL kidding... I don't know

for sure anything but those symptoms and spreading... it's worth a

check. Three rashy children... I dunno... I would take them in. Just

take the one in who is the worst for the appointment so you have only one

co-pay, and if the culture comes out positive you know the others have it

too and the ped can prescribe antibiotics for all three. It's a given if

one has it, they all do with the same symptoms. Any good ped would see

right through that and know you don't need to have them all

cultured. There are other symptoms, a strawberry tongue (red spotty),

fever, Vertechial striping in the throat (ahh hell, I can't spell that and

this spell checker sucks) which the doc should know to look for with strep,

more. Bring all three in with you and maybe the doc will take a quick

look see with all of them in the room. My doc will do this for us, but

maybe he's just a gem. In fact, that's what he's done with scarlet fever

in the past. Like I said, Kenton's had it 3 times this school year and he

was the only one ever cultured, yet all three were treated when they

started showing signs. Whatever it is, I feel for ya, not fun at all.

Hey, I know the last two insurance co's I've had paid 100% for sick

visits. Are you sure you would owe a co-pay for this?

Here, I searched it for you since I knew what I was looking for and could

weed out the dumb stuff.

Some of the photos below are of considerably worse cases of SF than just

the sandpapery rash, but there's a few of chests and arms and cheeks that I

could tell looked exactly like my son when I first saw this (actually went

into the doc pretty sure of what it was before I got there from looking at

these dermatology pics). You may or may not recognize anything from the

links below.

http://www.dermnet.com/thumbnailIndex.cfm?moduleID=24&moduleGroupID=328&groupInd\

ex=0&numcols=0

http://dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/result.cfm?Diagnosis=-555701252

http://www.dermnetnz.org/bacterial/scarlet-fever.html

http://www.pediatrics.wisc.edu/education/derm/tutc/scarlatiniform.html

(I got all these here, there's a few more links there I didn't paste)

http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/scarletfever.html

Another to compare to, would be pics of Fifth's Disease, which also is a

red rashy thing. Described as a cheek slap looking rash that can spread to

trunk/buttocks area. Don't know if it comes with a fever or not. If

neither of these is close, start searching dermatology pages for pictures

of rashes or google *childhood rashes* or something like that... Or just

take them in...

I'm curious to know if I'm off base here, so please send an update when you

do know!

good luck!

Kori

At 01:30 PM 5/15/2005, you wrote:

>Oh, Kori, it's getting better & better! Now all three little monkeys

>have it! The baby has it the worst, head to toe, on just broke

>out today with big bright red blotches on his cheeks, and some on

>his back & belly, and Neve got it yesterday afternoon, started with

>the bright red cheeks and spread to her arms, chest & back. She's

>the least severe. I'll have to look into scarlet fever

>now...although I had my MIL look at the baby on Saturday (when the

>rash first started) and she didn't mention SF. She's an RN, and my

>DH (her son) had scarlet fever when he was little, so she's always a

>little paranoid about that one...I don't know what to! I just know I

>DON'T feel like trooping all 3 to the pedi tomorrow for $45 in

>office visit fees!!! ;-D

>

>

> > > > >HEEELLLLPPPP!!! I just noticed Ava has a rash all over her

> > >foot...it's

> > > > >like little tiny red spots all over the top & bottom. She's

>due

> > >to get

> > > > >her shoes back on in 1 hour...so I paged my ped & the other

>idiot

> > > > >doctor called back & said (surprise surprise) just leave her

> > >shoes off

> > > > >for the weekend & come in on Monday. I said no way, jose!

>Can't do

> > > > >that, foot could relapse blah blah blah. " 48 hours won't make

>a

> > > > >difference " says he, quite annoyed. Yes! It CAN!! says

>I! " Well, I

> > > > >can't make a diagnosis over the phone, so just leave the shoes

> > >off and

> > > > >come in on Monday. " Before our conversation broke down to the

> > >point of

> > > > >me yelling, I just said GOODBYE and hung up--obviously he is

>of no

> > > > >help whatsoever! SO WHAT DO I DO?????? I'm thinking maybe a

>nice

> > >coat

> > > > >of lansinoh or diaper rash cream and thin > >href= " http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

> > >20socks " onmouseover= " window.status='href= " http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

>20socks " onmouseover= " window.status='cotton socks'; return true; "

>onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks';

>return true; "

> > >onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks &

> > >shoes...it's

> > > > >probably from sweating??? I hope????

> > > > >SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!

> > > > > & Ava

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Doesn't 5th disease also have a rash that covers the body? I also think

that may be the same as HFM. My son had it, but it was so long ago, I

forget what the rash looked like.

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

5th disease is kind of a lacey looking rash...almost like leopard

spots. I had it when I was little. Hand foot mouth is more bumpy

spots on the affected body parts, Neve had it when she was little.

(We only get the freakiest diseases around here!)

> Doesn't 5th disease also have a rash that covers the body? I also

think

> that may be the same as HFM. My son had it, but it was so long

ago, I

> forget what the rash looked like.

>

>

>

>

>

> Shook

> Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> Vienna, VA 22182

> x374

> x374

> fax

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, get ready to eat! Just kidding! I'm not really sure what we're

dealing with here...the older 2 have basically cleared up. The

baby's " spots " are slowly fading. Yesterday they seemed to flare up

when she was hot...like when she napped, the side of her face she

was laying on they got very red. But now they're fading away. I

didn't take them to the doc. I'm really convinced it was just a

viral thing...one of those freaky kid rash thingys I'd pay my co-pay

and the doc would say, Yeah, it's a rash. Our normal pedi (as

opposed to the idiot I talked to Friday night) is very laid back--

not a big medicine junkie. But I did look into scarlet fever, I

already looked at most of those pics you listed. The rash has a

*similar* look, but it's not sandpapery at all. You almost couldn't

feel anything on their skin. And it's apparently pretty rare in kids

under 2, they have those great maternal antibodies. Ava's only 9

months, and still nursing. Plus they only had the one night of fever

each, not 2-5 days like the info said. So, I really don't think it

was SF. I'm sticking with roseola, because I haven't changed

detergents or anything, and it's going away now.

Oh well! More fun in a mommy's life! Thanks for your help!

, mommy of:

Guinevere, on & Ava, the spotted trio

> > > > > >HEEELLLLPPPP!!! I just noticed Ava has a rash all over her

> > > >foot...it's

> > > > > >like little tiny red spots all over the top & bottom.

She's

> >due

> > > >to get

> > > > > >her shoes back on in 1 hour...so I paged my ped & the

other

> >idiot

> > > > > >doctor called back & said (surprise surprise) just leave

her

> > > >shoes off

> > > > > >for the weekend & come in on Monday. I said no way, jose!

> >Can't do

> > > > > >that, foot could relapse blah blah blah. " 48 hours won't

make

> >a

> > > > > >difference " says he, quite annoyed. Yes! It CAN!! says

> >I! " Well, I

> > > > > >can't make a diagnosis over the phone, so just leave the

shoes

> > > >off and

> > > > > >come in on Monday. " Before our conversation broke down to

the

> > > >point of

> > > > > >me yelling, I just said GOODBYE and hung up--obviously he

is

> >of no

> > > > > >help whatsoever! SO WHAT DO I DO?????? I'm thinking maybe

a

> >nice

> > > >coat

> > > > > >of lansinoh or diaper rash cream and thin > > >href= " http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

> > > >20socks " onmouseover= " window.status=' >href= " http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

> >20socks " onmouseover= " window.status='http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=cotton%

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onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks';

return true; "

> >onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks';

> >return true; "

> > > >onmouseout= " window.status=''; return true; " >cotton socks &

> > > >shoes...it's

> > > > > >probably from sweating??? I hope????

> > > > > >SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!

> > > > > > & Ava

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >