Pics

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Wow!! I finally got pics put in the photo album here! They're in

the album, Olivia F. I just have to say a little something about

the first picture with Terence in it. His mom and I met in the

hospital while sharing a room waiting for our babies to be born.

They were born 10 days apart and both preemies. It's cute looking

at them together now and I'm happy to say that 4 years later we

still talk about twice a week on the phone!

Enjoy and have a great weekend.

Leah. Mom to Olivia 4 yrs. 18lbs. and Ash 8 non-RSS

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Hi Leah,

I just got the chance to look at the pic section for the first time in a

while, and I wanted to say that Olivia is small, but adorable just like the

rest of our kids! LOL

GREAT job mom!

Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 24 months (TOMORROW!!!), 20# 5.2oz, 29 " ,

Prevacid, Zantac, Singulair, GT)

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Hi Teri,

My oldest, (non-RSS), stand all of 4'10 " at 23 years old, and she

would have to agree with all of you that the " cute " and " doll " comments get

REALLY annoying! LOL She, too, has lamented over the years, about not being

able to reach things without help. She's even commented about taking her

two-step ladder to the grocery store so that she didn't have to wait for

someone to get things off the top shelves! LOL After a while, I guess you

just get used to it. She deals by wearing 3 " heels most of the time! She was

SO happy when the big chunky soles came into fashion! LOL

Thanks for sharing.

Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 24 months (TOMORROW!!!), 20# 5.2oz, 29 " ,

Prevacid, Zantac, Singulair, GT)

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Leah,

She is a cutie.

Jodi R.

> Wow!! I finally got pics put in the photo album here! They're in

> the album, Olivia F. I just have to say a little something about

> the first picture with Terence in it. His mom and I met in the

> hospital while sharing a room waiting for our babies to be born.

> They were born 10 days apart and both preemies. It's cute looking

> at them together now and I'm happy to say that 4 years later we

> still talk about twice a week on the phone!

>

> Enjoy and have a great weekend.

>

> Leah. Mom to Olivia 4 yrs. 18lbs. and Ash 8 non-RSS

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hi leah-

what a cutie pie!! hope she is doing well!

jodie

nicholas-5 nonrss, christopher-3 22lbs 33 " rss, johnathon-6m nonrss)

> > Wow!! I finally got pics put in the photo album here! They're

in

> > the album, Olivia F. I just have to say a little something about

> > the first picture with Terence in it. His mom and I met in the

> > hospital while sharing a room waiting for our babies to be born.

> > They were born 10 days apart and both preemies. It's cute

looking

> > at them together now and I'm happy to say that 4 years later we

> > still talk about twice a week on the phone!

> >

> > Enjoy and have a great weekend.

> >

> > Leah. Mom to Olivia 4 yrs. 18lbs. and Ash 8 non-RSS

[Guest guest]

Hi Eileen. I'm 28 now. They told me i would only be about 4'3 without GH

treatment. I know having to give Imogen shots is hard to do, but in my opinion

I'm so glad my parents gave them to me. Growing up, I didn't understand why i

had to go through all of that, but looking back, it wasn't so bad and they

did help. I'm so thankful for everything my parents did to help me. Before I

started taking GH i didn't have any body fat at all. They couldn't pinch any

fat. When i was on the shots I could out eat anybody, my appetite was great.

Even though I have never had trouble eating, I was actually able to start

gaining some weight. Now i joke about which inch of fat would they like to

pinch

now, I have plenty to choose from. I was very lucky I never had any side

effects from the GH. Like I said, from my opinion I think taking the shots is

well worth the height gain, no matter how many inches they help add. I know a

couple of the other RSS Adults didn't take the shots and are very happy being

the height they are without them. I've always had a very good outlook on being

short, I date regularly, which I always tend to look for shorter guys but

always end up dating the ones that are 6' or taller. It took me a long time to

be

able to go out places with somebody that tall and not worry what other people

think. If we are happy thats all that matters. I didn't start puberty till

i was alittle older. I was in the 8th grade. so they didn't have to give me

any medications to delay it. Another thing to add to some of your post. I did

notice that alot of RSS children are blonde headed. As you can tell from my

pics, I've always had really dark hair and lots of it. So i'm not sure if

thats a characteristic, I've also always been pretty dark completed and tan very

easily. Maybe low level of pigmentation is a characteristic and i just missed

it, but i do have blue eyes. If ya anything else ya wan to ask..feel free.

Teri

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Hi Teri.....can I ask how old you are now? What you say about being short is the

only thing 'wrong' with you is such a brilliant attitude. I work in a primary

scool for spec needs kids and this is brought home to me everyday.There are so

many worse things.

Anyway....were you given an estimated final height without gh treatment? Imogen

was on gh for about a year when she was 3....we absolutley hated injecting her.

She is now 6....I know you're not a dr and I don't want to put any pressure on

you...but I what do you think about restarting gh treatment? Do you think your

treatment was worth the height gain??

Also....bit personal this one.....how old were you when you started puberty? Did

you have medication to delay it?

Eileen ( Imogen 6 36 " 16lbs)

tmshorty75@... wrote:

Hi Eileen! Yes I took GH treatment for about 4 years when I was in early

elementary. I grew about 7 inches in that 4 years and I'm up to 4'8. I had

always been very tiny. I've read some of your post before and as people say

about Imogen, I couldn't tell you how many times people said I looked like a

living doll. I still hear " your so cute " alot. You asked me if I was happy and

content with my height. I have always wondered what it would have been like to

be taller. Like everytime i go to the store and have to ask for help reaching

things, but I have accepted the fact that God made me special. I'm so lucky to

be alive, and if being short is the only thing I have wrong with me I am truly

blessed. I've never let my height get in the way of doing anything I wanted to

do.

Teri

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Hi Eileen. I'm not exactly sure how old I was when I started GH. I know I

was in 2nd or 3rd Grade. I took them till I was in the 6th. I don't remember

the docs telling me about any side effects, I'm sure she told my parents. I

was just to young to really know what was going on. I tuned alot of stuff out.

Just curious on what side effects with the heart did they tell ya'll could

be? The only problem I've had is prolapes valve (I think thats what it is),

which alot of non RSS adults have too. I have to take antibotics before any

dental work, but thats about it. Of course I took these over 20 years ago. I'm

sure they have come along ways by now. They were still experimental back

then. I do know several RSS adults that are married, but I don't know of any

with

kids. I know i've heard a couple say they might start trying.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Eileen. No, I didn't have excessive growth in my feet or hands. I still

wear a size 13 (kids) shoe. Its so hard to find shoes to fit. My hands and

wrist are still very tiny. I hate trying to find watches cause i always have to

add a couple of holes for it to fit. I also have to shop in kids department

for gloves. I haven't had any problems with diabetes. I was just checked last

checkup and everything was fine. I still pass out occationally when my sugar

gets to low and I will get headaches if I don't eat regularly.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Hi Teri. So the hormone treatment gave you 5 extra inches....that's pretty good

isn't it. We may have to have another think about the treatment in the new year.

But as Imogen is only 6 I thought maybe we could delay it. Can you remeber how

old you were when you started the treatment? and how old when you stopped? Also

we were told that there may be health implications in later life from the gh

treatment. Heart problems. Were you told this. I find this the most worrying

thing about gh treatment. Also...I know there is an adult RSS woman on the site

(kelly I think) who is married....do you know of any RSS adult woman who have

had babies?

I'm so glad you are doing so well.......not suprised those 6' guys love you!!

Eileen

tmshorty75@... wrote:

Hi Eileen. I'm 28 now. They told me i would only be about 4'3 without GH

treatment. I know having to give Imogen shots is hard to do, but in my opinion

I'm so glad my parents gave them to me. Growing up, I didn't understand why i

had to go through all of that, but looking back, it wasn't so bad and they

did help. I'm so thankful for everything my parents did to help me. Before I

started taking GH i didn't have any body fat at all. They couldn't pinch any

fat. When i was on the shots I could out eat anybody, my appetite was great.

Even though I have never had trouble eating, I was actually able to start

gaining some weight. Now i joke about which inch of fat would they like to

pinch

now, I have plenty to choose from. I was very lucky I never had any side

effects from the GH. Like I said, from my opinion I think taking the shots is

well worth the height gain, no matter how many inches they help add. I know a

couple of the other RSS Adults didn't take the shots and are very happy being

the height they are without them. I've always had a very good outlook on being

short, I date regularly, which I always tend to look for shorter guys but

always end up dating the ones that are 6' or taller. It took me a long time to

be

able to go out places with somebody that tall and not worry what other people

think. If we are happy thats all that matters. I didn't start puberty till

i was alittle older. I was in the 8th grade. so they didn't have to give me

any medications to delay it. Another thing to add to some of your post. I did

notice that alot of RSS children are blonde headed. As you can tell from my

pics, I've always had really dark hair and lots of it. So i'm not sure if

thats a characteristic, I've also always been pretty dark completed and tan very

easily. Maybe low level of pigmentation is a characteristic and i just missed

it, but i do have blue eyes. If ya anything else ya wan to ask..feel free.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Hi Teri.......can't remember exactly about the heart problems....just that there

might be in the future.....and as all low birthweight babies are more prone to

heart trouble anyway it did cause me some concern.I think another side effect is

sposed to be diabetes.Also doesn't gh treatment cause excessive growth in hands,

feet and chin?? Mind you with Rss kids they culd do with a little growth in

these areas!

I think we'll def have to have a chat with our endo sometime in the new year. I

am very impressed with that extra 5 inches it seems to have given you.

I was wondering if RSS women have trouble concieving and giving birth. I would

imagine they would have to have a c section as your pelvis's must be

small....especially as it is unlikely that you would have an RSS baby so you

would be giving birth maybe to a wapping 8 pounder...

Mapping out your future for you here Teri....especially if you are gonna marry

one of those 6 footers!

Eileen

tmshorty75@... wrote:

Hi Eileen. I'm not exactly sure how old I was when I started GH. I know I

was in 2nd or 3rd Grade. I took them till I was in the 6th. I don't remember

the docs telling me about any side effects, I'm sure she told my parents. I

was just to young to really know what was going on. I tuned alot of stuff out.

Just curious on what side effects with the heart did they tell ya'll could

be? The only problem I've had is prolapes valve (I think thats what it is),

which alot of non RSS adults have too. I have to take antibotics before any

dental work, but thats about it. Of course I took these over 20 years ago. I'm

sure they have come along ways by now. They were still experimental back

then. I do know several RSS adults that are married, but I don't know of any

with

kids. I know i've heard a couple say they might start trying.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Well that's all good to hear. Yep...Imogens hands and feet are still

teensy......her hands are not much bigger than a babies. and her feet Iare

small....but they're kind of long and narrow....so we have problems finding

shoes that fit her snugly.

I was looking at your pics again...the second one of you as a baby looks a lot

like Imogen....same cute features......tho Immi is not so chubby in the face.

Well....Teri...you've almost convinced me we should start the old gh treatment

again for Immi. Would love her to get to 4' 8 like you...she wouldn't be that

much smaller than me then at 5' 1 " !!

tmshorty75@... wrote:

Eileen. No, I didn't have excessive growth in my feet or hands. I still

wear a size 13 (kids) shoe. Its so hard to find shoes to fit. My hands and

wrist are still very tiny. I hate trying to find watches cause i always have to

add a couple of holes for it to fit. I also have to shop in kids department

for gloves. I haven't had any problems with diabetes. I was just checked last

checkup and everything was fine. I still pass out occationally when my sugar

gets to low and I will get headaches if I don't eat regularly.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Hi eileen i was just reading your post to teri and you were asking about

fertility and kids. At the recent CGF convention Dr Stanhope said he had heard

of 2 RSS men fathering " normal " kids but has never heard of any RSS women

conceiving or giving birth, hpe this helps. I have a few gynecological problems

but am not sure if they due to RSS (my GP thinks so) but I have been referred to

Dr Gerry Conway at the Middlesex Hospital so i am hoping he may have some answer

and poss solutions.

EILEEN REID eileenreid2003@...> wrote:Hi Teri.......can't remember

exactly about the heart problems....just that there might be in the

future.....and as all low birthweight babies are more prone to heart trouble

anyway it did cause me some concern.I think another side effect is sposed to be

diabetes.Also doesn't gh treatment cause excessive growth in hands, feet and

chin?? Mind you with Rss kids they culd do with a little growth in these areas!

I think we'll def have to have a chat with our endo sometime in the new year. I

am very impressed with that extra 5 inches it seems to have given you.

I was wondering if RSS women have trouble concieving and giving birth. I would

imagine they would have to have a c section as your pelvis's must be

small....especially as it is unlikely that you would have an RSS baby so you

would be giving birth maybe to a wapping 8 pounder...

Mapping out your future for you here Teri....especially if you are gonna marry

one of those 6 footers!

Eileen

tmshorty75@... wrote:

Hi Eileen. I'm not exactly sure how old I was when I started GH. I know I

was in 2nd or 3rd Grade. I took them till I was in the 6th. I don't remember

the docs telling me about any side effects, I'm sure she told my parents. I

was just to young to really know what was going on. I tuned alot of stuff out.

Just curious on what side effects with the heart did they tell ya'll could

be? The only problem I've had is prolapes valve (I think thats what it is),

which alot of non RSS adults have too. I have to take antibotics before any

dental work, but thats about it. Of course I took these over 20 years ago. I'm

sure they have come along ways by now. They were still experimental back

then. I do know several RSS adults that are married, but I don't know of any

with

kids. I know i've heard a couple say they might start trying.

Teri

[Guest guest]

thanks Kim...I was rather hoping Imogen might have a family one day....tho'

obviously the pregnancy would not be easy and she'd prob have to have to have an

early caesar.

Is there anyone who has heard of an RSS woman having a baby????

Speak later Kim

Eileen x

kim taylor mightyatom_2@...> wrote:

Hi eileen i was just reading your post to teri and you were asking about

fertility and kids. At the recent CGF convention Dr Stanhope said he had heard

of 2 RSS men fathering " normal " kids but has never heard of any RSS women

conceiving or giving birth, hpe this helps. I have a few gynecological problems

but am not sure if they due to RSS (my GP thinks so) but I have been referred to

Dr Gerry Conway at the Middlesex Hospital so i am hoping he may have some answer

and poss solutions.

EILEEN REID eileenreid2003@...> wrote:Hi Teri.......can't remember

exactly about the heart problems....just that there might be in the

future.....and as all low birthweight babies are more prone to heart trouble

anyway it did cause me some concern.I think another side effect is sposed to be

diabetes.Also doesn't gh treatment cause excessive growth in hands, feet and

chin?? Mind you with Rss kids they culd do with a little growth in these areas!

I think we'll def have to have a chat with our endo sometime in the new year. I

am very impressed with that extra 5 inches it seems to have given you.

I was wondering if RSS women have trouble concieving and giving birth. I would

imagine they would have to have a c section as your pelvis's must be

small....especially as it is unlikely that you would have an RSS baby so you

would be giving birth maybe to a wapping 8 pounder...

Mapping out your future for you here Teri....especially if you are gonna marry

one of those 6 footers!

Eileen

tmshorty75@... wrote:

Hi Eileen. I'm not exactly sure how old I was when I started GH. I know I

was in 2nd or 3rd Grade. I took them till I was in the 6th. I don't remember

the docs telling me about any side effects, I'm sure she told my parents. I

was just to young to really know what was going on. I tuned alot of stuff out.

Just curious on what side effects with the heart did they tell ya'll could

be? The only problem I've had is prolapes valve (I think thats what it is),

which alot of non RSS adults have too. I have to take antibotics before any

dental work, but thats about it. Of course I took these over 20 years ago. I'm

sure they have come along ways by now. They were still experimental back

then. I do know several RSS adults that are married, but I don't know of any

with

kids. I know i've heard a couple say they might start trying.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

As a short adult woman (5 ft on a good day) non RSS, I am going to

add my two cents here. First, my brother (non RSS) took growth

hormones and there were no side effects. As for fathering a child,

his first baby is due in March. As for me, my doctor told me that if

I was any smaller, I would have had trouble carrying a baby to term.

There is a certain length needed througout the pelvis to carry a

child. I had one cousin who was on bed rest through her entire

pregnancy due to being so small.

As for RSS women, I do not know of any who have carried a baby,

although GHT would probably help (due to increased size) rather than

hurt.

Also, I have dealt with all of the related issues over the years that

being small can bring: not reaching things, problems finding

appropriate clothing/shoes, reaching the pedals to drive, comments

etc. My son is absolutely starting GHT the minute the paperwork goes

through (per our last visit with Dr H). In addition, there is a

history of early puberty in my family. I will be watching my non RSS

daughter carefully to see if she will need medical intervention as

well.

Anyway, just my two cents.

Judith, Steve, (RSS) and (non RSS) 3 yr 10 mo twins

[Guest guest]

Wolfie..... you've always been beautiful !!! ... now your thinner too. Good

for you. Keep up that resolve in 204, ....whatever your doing is working

wonderfully.

** hugs... Happy New Year to you

Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA

275/146/126

[Guest guest]

Wolfie..... you've always been beautiful !!! ... now your thinner too. Good

for you. Keep up that resolve in 204, ....whatever your doing is working

wonderfully.

** hugs... Happy New Year to you

Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA

275/146/126

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 9:19:34 AM Central Standard Time,

BilletDoux003@... writes:

Wolfie..... you've always been beautiful !!! ... now your thinner too. Good

for you. Keep up that resolve in 204, ....whatever your doing is working

wonderfully.

** hugs... Happy New Year to you

Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA

Mandy you are absolutely the sweetest thing. I just love ya! People like you

are such a positive after having gone through the wls. God Bless you and I

pray the upcoming year and many many after will be truly blessed for you.God

Bless...Wolfie

Wolfie

Leeds, Alabama

" Keep It Real & Off the Top "

Lap Rny & Choly

Dr. Lee Schmitt

Medical Center East

August 27,2003

349Pre-Op/336/257/200

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 9:19:34 AM Central Standard Time,

BilletDoux003@... writes:

Wolfie..... you've always been beautiful !!! ... now your thinner too. Good

for you. Keep up that resolve in 204, ....whatever your doing is working

wonderfully.

** hugs... Happy New Year to you

Skinny Wishes from Mandy in CA

Mandy you are absolutely the sweetest thing. I just love ya! People like you

are such a positive after having gone through the wls. God Bless you and I

pray the upcoming year and many many after will be truly blessed for you.God

Bless...Wolfie

Wolfie

Leeds, Alabama

" Keep It Real & Off the Top "

Lap Rny & Choly

Dr. Lee Schmitt

Medical Center East

August 27,2003

349Pre-Op/336/257/200