Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 My past postings have been how to get my 3 y.o. over her social shyness. She is very outgoing and talkative once she is comfortable around someone. This could take 6 months or more. All of her progress in speech has been made at home using the Kaufman Kit. She moved into the school system over the summer. She will talk with siblings in the room but now that the school year is beginning the siblings won't be in the room with her. She will, I'm sure, sit for the 1/2 hour and be speechless despite her ability to speak clearly in 6 word sentences. She is methodical and her speech and it is slow but she only had 15 words in April. I'm practicing more complex sentences during the day with her, as I homeschool my older children. According to the charts she has all her correct initial and final placements and of course her sequencing of six words amazed me this week. But if she won't talk to the therapist, should I continue? Upon the initial dx, I was told to start a word book. Only words she said to me, family, and while in other environments counted. I'm wondering if my main goal of therapy now should be to help her become comfortable with her new skills. Under the original assumption, the sentences don't really count if she can't use them with others, right? Or is this more of a normal, age appropriate shyness going on. I don't encounter many other 3 y.o. right now talking very much. She talks excitedly about going to the therapist but then pouts her lip and refuses to talk. The therapist will be happy with one or two words. She isn't even trying for sentences. What is the thought on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Look into selective mutetisim sp? There was a child in one of my son’s classes who only spoke at home and never in an outside environment. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Tara Ebert Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: [ ] Advise Wanted My past postings have been how to get my 3 y.o. over her social shyness. She is very outgoing and talkative once she is comfortable around someone. This could take 6 months or more. All of her progress in speech has been made at home using the Kaufman Kit. She moved into the school system over the summer. She will talk with siblings in the room but now that the school year is beginning the siblings won't be in the room with her. She will, I'm sure, sit for the 1/2 hour and be speechless despite her ability to speak clearly in 6 word sentences. She is methodical and her speech and it is slow but she only had 15 words in April. I'm practicing more complex sentences during the day with her, as I homeschool my older children. According to the charts she has all her correct initial and final placements and of course her sequencing of six words amazed me this week. But if she won't talk to the therapist, should I continue? Upon the initial dx, I was told to start a word book. Only words she said to me, family, and while in other environments counted. I'm wondering if my main goal of therapy now should be to help her become comfortable with her new skills. Under the original assumption, the sentences don't really count if she can't use them with others, right? Or is this more of a normal, age appropriate shyness going on. I don't encounter many other 3 y.o. right now talking very much. She talks excitedly about going to the therapist but then pouts her lip and refuses to talk. The therapist will be happy with one or two words. She isn't even trying for sentences. What is the thought on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 My 2nd daughter just turned 5 last month. She was a very early talker and never had any speech issues. But, she absolutely would not speak to another person. When she was 3, people thought she had speech problems because they never heard her speak. But, at home she'd talk your ear off and sounded like most 4-5 year olds I knew. She was so shy that she would pee in her pants instead of telling someone she had to go. Then she wouldn't even tell anyone that she had peed. Her preschool teachers were actually concerned, but I never was. The year started in Sept and she didn't say a single word at preschool until March! The teacher said that when she finally said something, she just opened up and didn't stop talking. It's funny, out of my 4 kids she's the only one I have never had a single developmental concern about. But, I don't really have any advice on what you should do. I never tried to push my daughter to talk more. I knew she had the ability, so I never really worried about if she chose to not use that ability. Bridget > > My past postings have been how to get my 3 y.o. over her social > shyness. She is very outgoing and talkative once she is comfortable > around someone. This could take 6 months or more. All of her > progress in speech has been made at home using the Kaufman Kit. She > moved into the school system over the summer. She will talk with > siblings in the room but now that the school year is beginning the > siblings won't be in the room with her. She will, I'm sure, sit for > the 1/2 hour and be speechless despite her ability to speak clearly in > 6 word sentences. She is methodical and her speech and it is slow but > she only had 15 words in April. I'm practicing more complex sentences > during the day with her, as I homeschool my older children. According > to the charts she has all her correct initial and final placements and > of course her sequencing of six words amazed me this week. But if she > won't talk to the therapist, should I continue? Upon the initial dx, > I was told to start a word book. Only words she said to me, family, > and while in other environments counted. I'm wondering if my main > goal of therapy now should be to help her become comfortable with her > new skills. Under the original assumption, the sentences don't really > count if she can't use them with others, right? Or is this more of a > normal, age appropriate shyness going on. I don't encounter many > other 3 y.o. right now talking very much. She talks excitedly about > going to the therapist but then pouts her lip and refuses to talk. > The therapist will be happy with one or two words. She isn't even > trying for sentences. What is the thought on this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Tara, I had a child this past year in my class that was a " selective mute " . Her family swore she talked all of the time at home, but when she came to school, nothing. She'd sit in wet pants all day long if we'd let her (of course, we didn't but, the point is she wouldn't tell us if the kid next to her was killing her, so we had to really pay close attention to her). Eventually several months into our school year, she would speak to the staff during " center time " , but she wouldn't look us in the eyes. Then a few more months went by and she started talking spontaneously to us (the kids would say wow A**** could talk). This child had so much going on in her short life it's amazing she spoke at all (I'm not comparing her to your child at all - this child had major traumas in the 10 months that I knew her). At the end of the year, we would hate for our school week to end b/c by the end of the week (Thurs & Fri) she'd usually start to talk to us. So I guess I'm saying is to be patient, don't force her, let her teachers know, encourage them to provide picture cards for her to point to, let her know before hand what the topic of the activity will be and give some ideas on what she might say if asked a question (yes she probably knows the answer, but may be too afraid to verbalize in front of strangers). She had ST but the therapist said it was more of an anxiety disorder, not a speech disorder, but con't to get therapy even into the next year. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 My son did this to his first speech therapist. He stonewalled her for 6 months ! She diagnosed him with all kinds of speech diagnosis despite our arguing that he could talk, just not to her. She went on a sabbatical ( we think he induced a breakdown!) and our whole life changed with his new therapist. She ran him through an OT course before attempting any " speech " work. Sometimes they spent the whole day just playing but she got more of him in their first week ( 4 sessions) than his previous therapist did in 6 months. It was amazing to see how much more important chemistry and mutual respect are in therapy than any other factor. He graduated from active therapy before the other speech therapist made it back. CC I do need to add that recently he was diagnosed with Autism. I am sure your daughter is not autistic but I thought I should mention it. > > My past postings have been how to get my 3 y.o. over her social > shyness. She is very outgoing and talkative once she is comfortable > around someone. This could take 6 months or more. All of her > progress in speech has been made at home using the Kaufman Kit. She > moved into the school system over the summer. She will talk with > siblings in the room but now that the school year is beginning the > siblings won't be in the room with her. She will, I'm sure, sit for > the 1/2 hour and be speechless despite her ability to speak clearly in > 6 word sentences. She is methodical and her speech and it is slow but > she only had 15 words in April. I'm practicing more complex sentences > during the day with her, as I homeschool my older children. According > to the charts she has all her correct initial and final placements and > of course her sequencing of six words amazed me this week. But if she > won't talk to the therapist, should I continue? Upon the initial dx, > I was told to start a word book. Only words she said to me, family, > and while in other environments counted. I'm wondering if my main > goal of therapy now should be to help her become comfortable with her > new skills. Under the original assumption, the sentences don't really > count if she can't use them with others, right? Or is this more of a > normal, age appropriate shyness going on. I don't encounter many > other 3 y.o. right now talking very much. She talks excitedly about > going to the therapist but then pouts her lip and refuses to talk. > The therapist will be happy with one or two words. She isn't even > trying for sentences. What is the thought on this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Zeissler <hzeissler@...> wrote: Look into selective mutetisim sp? There was a child in one of my son’s classes who only spoke at home and never in an outside environment. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Tara Ebert Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: [ ] Advise Wanted My past postings have been how to get my 3 y.o. over her social shyness. She is very outgoing and talkative once she is comfortable around someone. This could take 6 months or more. All of her progress in speech has been made at home using the Kaufman Kit. She moved into the school system over the summer. She will talk with siblings in the room but now that the school year is beginning the siblings won't be in the room with her. She will, I'm sure, sit for the 1/2 hour and be speechless despite her ability to speak clearly in 6 word sentences. She is methodical and her speech and it is slow but she only had 15 words in April. I'm practicing more complex sentences during the day with her, as I homeschool my older children. According to the charts she has all her correct initial and final placements and of course her sequencing of six words amazed me this week. But if she won't talk to the therapist, should I continue? Upon the initial dx, I was told to start a word book. Only words she said to me, family, and while in other environments counted. I'm wondering if my main goal of therapy now should be to help her become comfortable with her new skills. Under the original assumption, the sentences don't really count if she can't use them with others, right? Or is this more of a normal, age appropriate shyness going on. I don't encounter many other 3 y.o. right now talking very much. She talks excitedly about going to the therapist but then pouts her lip and refuses to talk. The therapist will be happy with one or two words. She isn't even trying for sentences. What is the thought on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 First I will tell you it took me years to get my son to the right specialist. My son was diagnosed as PDDNOS and the schools and the regional center both ignored the diagnosis. The regional center pretended to test, but in the end I found out that the doctor didn't do an autism test. I haven't dealt with this reality yet. I am fighting with the school district first. They opened up an autism clinic about 1 year ago, about 80 miles away and I asked to have my son referred there. My pediatrician sent in the referral and I got a call from a developmental pediatrician's office. We went and she tested my son and made the appropriate referrals. She could see that we wanted to go to the Autism clinic and so she sent a referral and within 2 working days they called and started the process to get him in. I recently asked for a referral to a speech therapist who could diagnosed Apraxia and Dyspraxia and within two weeks I had a phone call to set an appointment. At 14 my son still has some characteristics of dyspraxia. I don't know if he will still test PDDNOS when he gets to the Autism clinic. On the first visit to the Developmental pediatrician she could see traits. Now she says she isn't sure, but she definately says he deserves an autism test to confirm or deny the diagnosis. Find out why your pediatrician is not wanting to do the referral. Then you will know whether you need a different pediatrician. I had a real bad pediatrician until Jan. 1997 when I switched insurances and decided to take a chance with a new doctor. My old doctor was great if your child was developmentally on target for everything, other than that he placed all responsibility on the school and refused to do anything for my 2 kids with learning differences. Good Luck, Lorraine My pediatrician always tried to get me referral to the specialist and most of the time it was my HMO that got in the way of the appointment. > > > > My past postings have been how to get my 3 y.o. over her social > > shyness. She is very outgoing and talkative once she is comfortable > > around someone. This could take 6 months or more. All of her > > progress in speech has been made at home using the Kaufman Kit. She > > moved into the school system over the summer. She will talk with > > siblings in the room but now that the school year is beginning the > > siblings won't be in the room with her. She will, I'm sure, sit for > > the 1/2 hour and be speechless despite her ability to speak clearly in > > 6 word sentences. She is methodical and her speech and it is slow but > > she only had 15 words in April. I'm practicing more complex sentences > > during the day with her, as I homeschool my older children. According > > to the charts she has all her correct initial and final placements and > > of course her sequencing of six words amazed me this week. But if she > > won't talk to the therapist, should I continue? Upon the initial dx, > > I was told to start a word book. Only words she said to me, family, > > and while in other environments counted. I'm wondering if my main > > goal of therapy now should be to help her become comfortable with her > > new skills. Under the original assumption, the sentences don't really > > count if she can't use them with others, right? Or is this more of a > > normal, age appropriate shyness going on. I don't encounter many > > other 3 y.o. right now talking very much. She talks excitedly about > > going to the therapist but then pouts her lip and refuses to talk. > > The therapist will be happy with one or two words. She isn't even > > trying for sentences. What is the thought on this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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