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In a message dated 1/31/03 6:40:37 AM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< No matter how tight I make the belt, they fall off in two steps.

>>

, don't send a video, but I don't understand. Are you saying your hips,

waist and abdomen and chest are all the same circumference? Usually the

waistline in men is just a lttle smaller than hips and holds trousers

up---although it is true we have all seen plenty of bending over 'butt-crack'

guys in our lifetimes who wear their pants perilously low.

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You are correct, ma'am: In the normal human body, the hips are the widest

part, and pants are constructed to stop sliding down when they hit the hips,

of in the case of teenage girls, four inches AFTER they hit the hips.

But they do stop.

I've never had much of a butt, but when I had two rolls, pre-op and post-op

until panni, I would cinch the belt between the rolls which functioned so as

to keep the pants from sliding down.

Then I had the panni, leaving me with an upper gut, no lower roll, and no

butt. Ergo, the pants are ALWAYS goin' downhill. Unless stopped by

suspenders.

I respect, and will fight to the death for your right to not view the video.

/john

john and his belt

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> In a message dated 1/31/03 6:40:37 AM, Graduate-OSSG

writes:

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> << No matter how tight I make the belt, they fall off in two steps.

> >>

> , don't send a video, but I don't understand. Are you saying your

hips,

> waist and abdomen and chest are all the same circumference? Usually the

> waistline in men is just a lttle smaller than hips and holds trousers

> up---although it is true we have all seen plenty of bending over

'butt-crack'

> guys in our lifetimes who wear their pants perilously low.

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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In a message dated 2/1/2003 11:10:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,

jwbry@... writes:

> I've never had much of a butt, but when I had two rolls, pre-op and post-op

> until panni, I would cinch the belt between the rolls which functioned so

> as

> to keep the pants from sliding down.

>

> Then I had the panni, leaving me with an upper gut, no lower roll, and no

> butt.

- I know this will be an issue for my hubby once he has his

abdominoplasty as well. He is cinching his belt tightly and the apron is

keeping his pants up (most of the time!) Once that is gone, he'll need the

suspenders also. I suggested he ask the surgeon to give him a girly waist,

but I think he prefers the suspenders.

Kate

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JOHN, MY HUSBAND HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE SURGERY. There ARE SUSPENDERS THE

English CALL BRACES. You SEW BUTTONS ON THE INSIDE WAISTBAND OF ALL YOU

PANTS. The BRACES DO NOT HAVE CLIPS, THEY HAVE THESE NEAT LEATHER STRAPS THE

ATTACH TO THE BUTTONS. you DON'T LOOK OLD, JUST SO WALLSTREET.

Sorry for the caps.

Fay Bayuk

300/175

10/23/01

Dr

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or maybe build out the hips.....nah, that wouldn't work either.

Well, I've found some great suspenders -- they have little pins in them so

they don't slip off the pants. They do chew up the waistband over time, but

a small price to pay to keep from mooning the office!

They're called the Hold-Up suspender company, www.suspenders.com

Until my hips become the widest part of my body, as pants designers

intended, these will have to do....

/john

Re: john and his belt

> In a message dated 2/1/2003 11:10:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> jwbry@... writes:

>

> > I've never had much of a butt, but when I had two rolls, pre-op and

post-op

> > until panni, I would cinch the belt between the rolls which functioned

so

> > as

> > to keep the pants from sliding down.

> >

> > Then I had the panni, leaving me with an upper gut, no lower roll, and

no

> > butt.

>

> - I know this will be an issue for my hubby once he has his

> abdominoplasty as well. He is cinching his belt tightly and the apron is

> keeping his pants up (most of the time!) Once that is gone, he'll need

the

> suspenders also. I suggested he ask the surgeon to give him a girly

waist,

> but I think he prefers the suspenders.

>

> Kate

>

>

>

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True, and I have a few pairs of dress pants with those buttons, and I have

" braces "

to go with them.

However, my wife, who is just finishing school and about to embark on a new

career, all while going through menopause and battling depression, is too

frazzled to do anything more than the laundry. I'm even outsourcing my

shirts to take a load off her.

So the buttons on the pants would be so far on the back burner as to fall

off the stove...

/john

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> JOHN, MY HUSBAND HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE SURGERY. There ARE SUSPENDERS

THE

> English CALL BRACES. You SEW BUTTONS ON THE INSIDE WAISTBAND OF ALL YOU

> PANTS. The BRACES DO NOT HAVE CLIPS, THEY HAVE THESE NEAT LEATHER STRAPS

THE

> ATTACH TO THE BUTTONS. you DON'T LOOK OLD, JUST SO WALLSTREET.

>

> Sorry for the caps.

>

>

>

>

>

> Fay Bayuk

> 300/175

> 10/23/01

> Dr

>

>

>

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A lurker sent me this post for --Fay, I don't know how to post on that

graduate board, but can sew his

own buttons on...penises are NOT a handicap!@  For pete's sake!

'outsourcing his shirts to take the load off her " ?????Who wears the shirts?

thanks yu...I needed that.  If you choose to post for me, please do.

Corrine

Fay Bayuk -

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Well, I NEVER!!!

Of COURSE I can sew on my own buttons, but you're wrong about the handicap -- my

penis does get in the way.

(rim-shot)

So I figured out how to solve the problem another way -- with the pants-chewin'

suspenders. When the pants get too chewed up, I just buy another pair. At

Costco, along with six cases of motor oil and 43 pounds of skinned chicken

breasts. And I don't look at price tags.

How can my wife stand me? She has no standards. And I outsource the shirts.

Re: john and his belt

A lurker sent me this post for --Fay, I don't know how to post on that

graduate board, but can sew his

own buttons on...penises are NOT a handicap!@ For pete's sake!

'outsourcing his shirts to take the load off her " ?????Who wears the shirts?

thanks yu...I needed that. If you choose to post for me, please do.

Corrine

Fay Bayuk -

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,

Whoever does your shirts could sew those buttons on, probably for a buck

or two a pair.

Ziobro

Technical Editor

Windows Content Group

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True, and I have a few pairs of dress pants with those buttons, and I

have " braces " to go with them.

However, my wife, who is just finishing school and about to embark on a

new career, all while going through menopause and battling depression,

is too frazzled to do anything more than the laundry. I'm even

outsourcing my shirts to take a load off her.

So the buttons on the pants would be so far on the back burner as to

fall off the stove...

/john

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> JOHN, MY HUSBAND HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE SURGERY. There ARE

> SUSPENDERS

THE

> English CALL BRACES. You SEW BUTTONS ON THE INSIDE WAISTBAND OF ALL

> YOU PANTS. The BRACES DO NOT HAVE CLIPS, THEY HAVE THESE NEAT LEATHER

> STRAPS

THE

> ATTACH TO THE BUTTONS. you DON'T LOOK OLD, JUST SO WALLSTREET.

>

> Sorry for the caps.

>

>

>

>

>

> Fay Bayuk

> 300/175

> 10/23/01

> Dr

>

>

>

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In a message dated 2/3/2003 6:07:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jwbry@... writes:

> Well, I NEVER!!!

>

> Of COURSE I can sew on my own buttons, but you're wrong about the handicap

> -- my penis does get in the way.

>

> (rim-shot)

>

> So I figured out how to solve the problem another way -- with the

> pants-chewin' suspenders. When the pants get too chewed up, I just buy

> another pair. At Costco, along with six cases of motor oil and 43 pounds of

> skinned chicken breasts. And I don't look at price tags.

>

> How can my wife stand me? She has no standards. And I outsource the shirts.

>

>

: you have such a great sense of humor.

Fay Bayuk

Patience can be a waste of time.

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My

> DH did not marry well when it comes to domestic chores ROFLMAO.

>

I tell people that I am " domestically challenged " and it is unethical and

mean to make fun of people with disabilities!

P.

>

>

> Fay Bayuk -

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In a message dated 2/4/2003 7:54:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, nanpug@...

writes:

> I tell people that I am " domestically challenged " and it is

> unethical and

> mean to make fun of people with disabilities!

Great, I will use that line

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