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Hi to all,

I have a question/problem I'm hoping you all can help with. I recently found

out that my 7 yr old who we thought was n/t is having some o/t issues and I

think some language processing problems. This has been a really rough year

for him, he has a teacher who is not very warm ( cold as a fish!!!!) and he

is very affectionate, he also has sleep apnea which causes some real behavior

problems as he is often very tired

early in the day.His teacher has decided he is going to do things her way

period!

She seems incapable of offering any options in order to help him succeed.We

had an I.E.P. about 2 wks ago and it went okay, the problem is his class has

a field trip coming up and his teacher sent home a note saying that if we

wanted Nick to go on the field trip either my husband or I must go. I'm

FURIOUS!!!!!! I normally do go on any field trips but this one happens to be

3 days before Easter and we own a florist so its just not possible. I feel

its completely inappropriate to single out a child who is already having

problems " fitting in " . He sees a counselor at school and she agrees with me

that singling him out would not be good for him but understands the teachers

concern about not being able to handle him if he has what we call a " melt

down " .Any ideas on how to handle this and do you think this could be

construed as

discrimination???

Sorry to be so long but I've just fumed about this all week. (And on

top of this the poor little guy had to have surgery on Tuesday to remove

tonsils and adenoids because of the sleep apnea. )

Thanks for letting me vent and any suggestions,

Valarie in Ca ( mom to Maranda 6yr old asd and Nick 7yr old o/t

issues , sleep apnea and LPD)

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I can't believe that the teacher said that to you. Maybe they could have an

extra aide from the school go along to be with him. I remember when my son

would have meltdowns and when I would show up to volunteer for a field trip

he would be a 100 times worse not better because on top of not being able to

handle the fieldtrip itself he also couldn't handle me being there. I think

that was very rude of her to suggest that in such a manner. If they expect

us to be nice and understanding of what they do then these schools better

start doing the same.

I hope he gets to go and that he has a good time. Pooh on that teacher !

MA

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Valarie,

This is awful! I would ask and see if there isn't some other adult in the

school who could accompany your child--social worker, slp, guidance

counselor--on the trip. Or perhaps there is another mom in the class

(preferably someone you know) who would be willing to go along as an extra

chaperone to be there for your son. This would make me furious too. It is

one thing if you offer to go along on the trip, but for them to demand it, I

think that is out of line. I hope it works out so he can go on the trip.

Fondly,

J-- mom to Graham (6 yrs, probable Asperger syndrome) and Hayley (10

yrs, mild ADD)

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Thanks,

and Becky I appreciate the advice and support. I was prepared to

fight tooth and nail for servives for my daughter but I didn't realize I

would have to fight for my son also. So be it . With the support I get from

you all I know I can do it it would just be nice to be pleasantly surprised

sometimes not to have to fight for what is right.

Valarie in Ca

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I believe keeping your child from a field trip because of his disability

is ILLEGAL according to federal law. FAPE (Free Appropriate Public

Education) requires that they provide him with the supports he needs to

benifit from his education in the LEAST RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT.

Banning him from and educational field trip restricts his environment.

YOU DO NOT have to accompany him for him to be allowed to go. THEY have

to provide an aide, if that's what it takes. Tell them that. They

already know it. They just think you don't.

Good luck-

in FL

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Valarie

Ditto to the other responders on this one.

This is BS. Your child cannot be excluded and they should provide an aide

in required in this situation. This is total BS. I feel bad that they are

making you request what is right for your child vs. giving children what

they need.

Talk to the principal in a nice way first, then get mad and do the IEP

dance.

Good luck

A jeffs mom

Re: off topic

Hi to all,

I have a question/problem I'm hoping you all can help with. I recently

found

out that my 7 yr old who we thought was n/t is having some o/t issues and I

think some language processing problems. This has been a really rough year

for him, he has a teacher who is not very warm ( cold as a fish!!!!) and he

is very affectionate, he also has sleep apnea which causes some real

behavior

problems as he is often very tired

early in the day.His teacher has decided he is going to do things her way

period!

She seems incapable of offering any options in order to help him succeed.We

had an I.E.P. about 2 wks ago and it went okay, the problem is his class has

a field trip coming up and his teacher sent home a note saying that if we

wanted Nick to go on the field trip either my husband or I must go. I'm

FURIOUS!!!!!! I normally do go on any field trips but this one happens to be

3 days before Easter and we own a florist so its just not possible. I feel

its completely inappropriate to single out a child who is already having

problems " fitting in " . He sees a counselor at school and she agrees with me

that singling him out would not be good for him but understands the teachers

concern about not being able to handle him if he has what we call a " melt

down " .Any ideas on how to handle this and do you think this could be

construed as

discrimination???

Sorry to be so long but I've just fumed about this all week. (And on

top of this the poor little guy had to have surgery on Tuesday to remove

tonsils and adenoids because of the sleep apnea. )

Thanks for letting me vent and any suggestions,

Valarie in Ca ( mom to Maranda 6yr old asd and Nick 7yr old o/t

issues , sleep apnea and LPD)

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Just wanted to share a small victory with you all. I talked to my sons

teacher today ( the one who wasn't giong to let hm go on the field trip with

out my husband or I going along) It appears they found an aid to go along.

Good thing as I had decided that I was going to tell them if Nick had

epilepsy they would not exclude him from the field trip because he might have

a seizure, and Nick has just about the same control over his " melt downs " so

if they did'nt want to be looking at a discrimination suit they had better

figure out how to make it work!!!!!! Finally a battle one before the fight

began!

Thanks for all your support and input,

Valarie in Ca

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Jac,

I am so very sorry to hear that your sweetheart was activated. I don't even

know what to say it is a hard thing to have to go through. My brother is in

the Air Force and he was supposed to be getting out in May. He was told he

wouldn't be having to go anywhere, but a week before Christmas they called

him up and told him he was going over the the Persian Gulf and get packed.

My mom was devastated, still is. He is doing okay over there though.

Anyways, lots of hugs, Chandra

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> My heart just called me a little while ago. He has been activated,

(National Guard) and will be deployed on Thursday. I don't know how

I'm going to make it.

>

> Jac

**************************

Oh Jac, I can't do better that Ceep's post, but she's right, we're

all here for you. Post, cry, scream, vent however you want. We can

take it. He is going for us, too.

Love,

in NJ

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>>> My heart just called me a little while ago. He has been activated,

(National Guard) and will be deployed on Thursday. I don't know how I'm

going to make it.<<<

Dear Jac,

One of my dear friends was called last week and he came with the news

weeping -- we all wept together and I know it will be more before it's all

over. Goddess Bless you and yours. Please stay in touch with us here. I

know this sounds off topic but it isn't. I can't imagine the fears, worry

and anxiety but can only guess it is going to be an emotional roller coaster

(which will affect your relationship with food so it is on topic) and please

keep us updated or just share or whatever you need for support just ask.

Where was he called? My friend wasn't told beyond reporting to CA but he was

vaccinated with a lot of new stuff. Wish I could hug you but will send

virtual hugs and know you are in my heart. We can all get through this

together and know we are here for you.

hugz,

~denise

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Oh Jac!! We are all here for you!! What an extended family you have...I

know, it isn't the same!! I know you have some really strong bootstraps

there girl....and I know you can do this.......there are many on this list

that pray, and I'm sure we will be........and SO much support.....let us

know what is going on!!!!! P.

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> My heart just called me a little while ago. He has been activated,

(National

> Guard) and will be deployed on Thursday. I don't know how I'm going to

make

> it.

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> Jac

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In a message dated 1/29/03 2:21:04 PM Central Standard Time, openrny@...

writes:

<< Well why don't he (The President) just ignore what is going on in the

world and stay safely in the oval office, having oral sex with an intern (a

practice that would have the CEO of any public company canned in a second)

and let the evil in the world proliferate until we are violently attacked

again, like his predecessor did.

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Looks like we're headed for another type of war--right here on the grad list.

Last time I looked, sex--oral or otherwise--does not make for a bad CEO. Had

the media paid more attention to the positives in Clinton's administration

instead of the sensationalism that sells papers, airtime, etc. maybe so many

people would not be so misinformed on just what the man DID accomplish in

office. And this comes from someone (me) who did NOT vote for Clinton, and

who was a staunch non-supporter when he took office. And I guess I'd rather

have a proponent of oral sex running the corporation than someone hellbound

to take away my profit-sharing and pension plan money so I can't retire but

have to keep working as a senior citizen in order to just live above the

poverty-line.

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Jeez, don't you folks not remember what happened on 9/11/01. Hey if you

think that cannot happen again, (or God forbid something even much worse)

then you are (excuse the expression) " crazy as hell " .

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Iraq in general, and Saddam Hussein in particular were not responsible for

9/11. And I am very certain that something similar can and probably will

happen again. All u have to do is look at what goes on with terrorism against

the Israelis to know that. Getting rid of Saddam will have no effect

whatsoever on the kind of terrorism that occurred on 9/11. Let Bush PROVE

(this IS the land of innocent until proven guilty, is it not?) the guy has

all these " weapons of mass destruction " and I will be the first to say " send

in the troops " or " drop the bomb. " But not to prevent another 9/11. Just to

enforce what the United Nations has put forth.

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I am sad to hear that we may have to send our fighting men and women off to

war, but it is equally sad to be sitting at your desk in the World Trade

Center one bright September morning and have a 747 fly into the building. It

is the price we must pay for living in the greatest country in the world. I

disagree strongly with everything you said, but I abd a lot of other brave

men and women will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.

-------------------------------

Again, war with Iraq will not prevent a 747 from flying into your office

building (or some other such individually-committed act of terrorism). I

appreciate your willingness to fight for my right to disagree with you. I'm

not so sure I'd be so generous. But then, I don't have to worry about it. I'm

too old to be drafted, if conscription were to come back again; and even if

it did and I were younger, I'm not so sure women have been liberated to the

point that they'd draft US. Point is, it's easy to say one would fight if not

likely to be called upon to do so.

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Like it or not, he is our Commander in Chief, if you don't agree with what

is going on in this country. the last time I checked, you certainly had the

right to leave it, the borders at Canada and Mexico are wide open and you

certainly can fly the friendly skys if you need more distance between us.

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Oh, that's a good way to solve problems. Just pick up and leave. I don't

think it's quite what the founding fathers had in mind tho when they rebelled

against British rule and demanded a representative government. We do have a

better option: make our opinions known to the prez and our legislators. And

if they don't listen to us, vote 'em out of office. ASAP.

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I hear Sodamn Insane (Hussein) is looking for a few new citizens, since he

seems to like to drop nerve gas on the ones he already has.

-----------------------------------

Nasty, Bill. Very nasty. On a par with my country: love it or leave it. Is

this what you do with someone you love? Abandonment, banishment, no attempt

to work thru to a viable solution when disagreements occur? Those of us who

would prefer to have less bloodshed for ALL the world can just go live in

Iraq? Probably you'd make a good leader there to replace the current one.

Carol A

With apologies to the list for prolonging this OT subject. Just could NOT let

this pass.

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OH NO!!!!!!!!! Oh Jac, I am so sorry to hear this. Darn that War Mongering

Pres of ours!!!!! You can flame me all you want, but that man has pushed ALL

my buttons!!! Especially after his Daddy complaining that people are calling

him a war Monger.........WELL DUHHHHHHHHH!

Debbie in Gig Harbor

sorry for the rant and I appologize to anyone who actually likes him.

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Oh Jac, I am so sorry. Just know that we do appreciate what he is doing.

I'll be praying for him.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:40:30 -0600 " Jacque Holdaway " jholdaway@...>

writes:

> My heart just called me a little while ago. He has been activated,

> (National

> Guard) and will be deployed on Thursday. I don't know how I'm going

> to make

> it.

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> Jac

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Jac,

Your post absolutely scares me to the core of my soul. I wish I

could say I can't imagine how you feel, but I can imagine if it was

my own boy. He seems too young now, but who knows how long this will

go on? I'll be praying that he, and the others, come back to us soon.

Hugs,

Vicki A.

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> > My heart just called me a little while ago. He has been activated,

> (National

> > Guard) and will be deployed on Thursday. I don't know how I'm

going to

> make

> > it.

> >

> > Jac

> > mailto:jholdaway@c...

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> > http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints

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Ok, I appologize. I shouldn't have started anything....I was having a pissy

morning and I came out in my fingers. Just for General information....I was

a Navy wife for 25 years and my daughter was FOURTH generation Navy in our

family. My Brother is still active duty...A Marine! We are proud of our

country and proud of serving our country (Dad did 22 year, ex husband did

30...all Dad's brothers served, as did my Grandfather!). But this doesn't

mean I have to agree with every President. That said, I should NOT have been

such a B**CH this morning.

Debbie in Gig Harbor

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I just took Fred to Camp Gruber for activation today. I don't care what Bush

says right now. I can be angry (and I am). I think we waited too long to do

anything, I can't imagine telling any other culture how they should live if

it is different from us, and I can't understand telling anyone that the

weapons they have are unwarranted if they are the same damned weapons we

have. BUT, on the other hand, my heart has been ripped out, and I don't have

anyone to blame or scream at. Because I THINK I understand. Hell, I was a

cop for 23 years. The Murrah Building was in my patrol district. I should

understand all of this, or just be able to take it in stride. I did better

today. I didn't cry. Not one single minute. But I was numb. The whole day

long. On my way home, Fred called me on the cell phone, and not 20 seconds

after I answered, I had a blow out on the right rear tire of the truck. His

truck. I didn't have a clue about what to do. I can change a tire, IF I KNOW

HOW TO GET THE DAMNED SPARE DOWN. I didn't blow up. But I wanted to. For

just a few seconds, I swelled up. I choked down the tears, and I said,

" Honey, I have to take care of this. " Fortunately, a nice man stopped and

helped me. I was back on the road home in less than 30 minutes.

He's going to Turkey (unofficial so far), and will be a squad leader in an

intelligence unit. Deployment date is 2/6 (after the UN investigation is

" complete " on the 5th). So far, I've lost 5 of the 10 pounds I wanted to

lose, but it's from just not eating, not a plan. Funny how your habits

change. Thanks to you all for being there for me. I guess it was part of

God's plan for you to come to me when I needed you so much.

Jac

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My family and I are going to be going to a Woodland baseball tournament and we

are looking for a place to stay. Does anyone know of a hotel in that area that

has a pool? I usually stay at Holiday Inn but they are not available. Any other

places you know of?

Kristie

Dr Umbach is wonderful! I only took 4 weeks off but I'm sure if I

needed more time he would of given it to me.

> > > Yup...just got my surgery date!

> > >

> > > Wheee!

> > > Azin

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Dear Sassy,

It is a tragedy for everyone. Please give my sympathies and deepest regrets to 's mother and family. I cannot even begin to imagine the pain of losing a child.

Barbara

From: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients [mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf Of i aSent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:38 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: off topic

Dear Barbara:

My prayers are with the family for both victims. I am friends with and have worked with the mother of the victim found in Richmond. This must be a hard and trying time for them.

Sassy"Hokoana, Barbara" wrote:

Hi all,

This is completely off topic, but I just wanted to ask for prayers for the family of Sopia Scuitto-Creps. If any of you have been watching the news lately, she was murdered and her body was found in Golden Gate Park. She was only 27. I was best friends with her sister and high school and even though I haven't seen either of them since, my heart is wrenching for the pain her family must be feeling. Please send out prayers for her family to get through this terrible time.

Barbara (LTLJSMOM)

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12/12/05

Orientation: 284.5

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Barbara I'm so sorry how hard this is for you. I'm praying for the family and for you to have strenght. Sorry it has taken me so long, but life has been very hard for me too. Time will make things better. Take care. Donna J."Hokoana, Barbara" wrote: Hi all, This is completely off topic, but I just wanted to ask for prayers for the family of Sopia Scuitto-Creps. If any of you have been watching the news lately, she was murdered and her body was found in Golden Gate Park. She was only 27. I

was best friends with her sister and high school and even though I haven't seen either of them since, my heart is wrenching for the pain her family must be feeling. Please send out prayers for her family to get through this terrible time. Barbara (LTLJSMOM) Dr. Fisher 12/12/05 Orientation: 284.5 Surgery: 250 Today: 186.5 Goal: 125-130Donna JordonDSJordon@...

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Hey Donna,

How are you doing? I hope things are getting better and your family is coping well. PLEASE let me know if there is ANYTHIGN I can do.

Barbara

From: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients [mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf Of Donna JordonSent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:44 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: off topic

Barbara

I'm so sorry how hard this is for you. I'm praying for the family and for you to have strenght. Sorry it has taken me so long, but life has been very hard for me too. Time will make things better. Take care. Donna J."Hokoana, Barbara" wrote:

Hi all,

This is completely off topic, but I just wanted to ask for prayers for the family of Sopia Scuitto-Creps. If any of you have been watching the news lately, she was murdered and her body was found in Golden Gate Park. She was only 27. I was best friends with her sister and high school and even though I haven't seen either of them since, my heart is wrenching for the pain her family must be feeling. Please send out prayers for her family to get through this terrible time.

Barbara (LTLJSMOM)

Dr. Fisher

12/12/05

Orientation: 284.5

Surgery: 250

Today: 186.5

Goal: 125-130Donna JordonDSJordon@...

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