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I am almost embarrassed to type this. I had surgery 19 months ago.

reached goal in 9 months (-138 pounds) and went from a size 2-28 to

a size 6-8. My struggle???? Over the last month I have battled the

old demon of eating.....mostly emotional. I have gained 3

pounds!!! I know that it is only 3 BUT I also know that it will be

more if I do not get a grip!!! I was always (after surgery and

until 1 month ago) been very dedicated about working out 6 days a

week and I loved it!!!!! Right now I guess I am in a rut. I am

depressed...tired and at times do not care about what I eat. I am

so afraid of going back to where I was. I can not seem to get on

the right track. I have tried to analyze this and although there is

alot going on in my personal life (THAT IS NORMAL:)!)I can not put

my finger on it. My hubby is very supportive...my kids are tickled

with me......what is the deal. I feel like a faliure. I feel like

I am lying...like there is a fat person on the inside of me. Does

this make sense? I look at me and think YUCK! I am not satisfied

with the way I look at all. When I try and talk to someone (a

friend) they are like yea right! I still feel and look ( in my

opion) a chubby person! I am 5'3 " and weigh 138-140. My body fat

is 20%. I need advice...a smack...a shoulder or something!!! You

know what the sadest part is??? I am one of the leaders in our

local support group! Great! A leader who can't lead herself!!! Why

is it that I can cheer on...encourage....impart knowledge to others

BUT can't do it to me???? Okay...I am done. Thanks for

listening!!!!

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Carol,

I know when I was 125 lbs I thought I was the size of a barn. At

479 lbs I honestly believed that I was half my size. I knew I had a

weight problem, I just never saw myself as being huge. My self-image

never has matched reality.

I know part of my problem lately (and I have gained a little

weight myself) is that of depression. Part of my depression was also

FORGETTING to take some of my meds expecially my diuretics. Since being

on my anti depressant, I have stopped munching all day. I actually am

craving protein (amazing.)

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:07:42 -0000 " carol carldavis@...> "

carldavis@...> writes:

> I am almost embarrassed to type this. I had surgery 19 months ago.

> reached goal in 9 months (-138 pounds) and went from a size 2-28 to

>

> a size 6-8. My struggle???? Over the last month I have battled the

>

> old demon of eating.....mostly emotional. I have gained 3

> pounds!!! I know that it is only 3 BUT I also know that it will be

>

> more if I do not get a grip!!! I was always (after surgery and

> until 1 month ago) been very dedicated about working out 6 days a

> week and I loved it!!!!! Right now I guess I am in a rut. I am

> depressed...tired and at times do not care about what I eat. I am

> so afraid of going back to where I was. I can not seem to get on

> the right track. I have tried to analyze this and although there is

>

> alot going on in my personal life (THAT IS NORMAL:)!)I can not put

> my finger on it. My hubby is very supportive...my kids are tickled

>

> with me......what is the deal. I feel like a faliure. I feel like

>

> I am lying...like there is a fat person on the inside of me. Does

> this make sense? I look at me and think YUCK! I am not satisfied

> with the way I look at all. When I try and talk to someone (a

> friend) they are like yea right! I still feel and look ( in my

> opion) a chubby person! I am 5'3 " and weigh 138-140. My body fat

> is 20%. I need advice...a smack...a shoulder or something!!! You

>

> know what the sadest part is??? I am one of the leaders in our

> local support group! Great! A leader who can't lead herself!!! Why

>

> is it that I can cheer on...encourage....impart knowledge to others

>

> BUT can't do it to me???? Okay...I am done. Thanks for

> listening!!!!

>

>

>

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>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

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>>> I am almost embarrassed to type this. I had surgery 19 months ago.

reached goal in 9 months (-138 pounds) and went from a size 2-28 to a size

6-8. My struggle???? Over the last month I have battled the old demon of

eating.....mostly emotional. I have gained 3 pounds!!! I know that it is

only 3 BUT I also know that it will be more if I do not get a grip!!!<<<

Hi Carol,

Don't despair -- I think what you describe for one thing is body dysporia

(sp?) or some official name like that meaning you don't see your body yet

like everyone else does -- it is possible (probable?) when you were large

you didn't see yourself as large as you were? It took me all of over a year

at the same weight before I actually believed (in my head) that those cloths

in the closet belonged to me and fit me. Looking in the mirror is STILL an

" iffy " thing -- some times I see me for the most part and other days I still

see me as really big... I see every ounce of fat as huge... well, I just

don't " see " the reality yet but am beginning to at times -- that's 29 months

out that I'm beginning to see what other people see some times (I think.)

This seeing myself as still fat after all the " work " involved *sigh* might

as well eat and fulfill the prophesy that this isn't going to work for me

either so I might as well gain it back now and get it over with... type of

attitude -- I totally understand and felt that too... many times... the one

time I gained some back though did freak me out enough to finally force

myself to get a grip but not until my " few " pounds had turned into 16 and I

couldn't pull up my own jeans anymore over my thunder thighs... THEN I got a

grip and got back on the path... that's what it took for me and it doesn't

mean it will take that for you.

Actually that happened last end of May/June so I was right at 19 months

post -- hum, imagine that? Maybe it is a " thing " we have to mentally adjust

to around the 2 year mark and choose either to " hit that wall " or back off

and get a grip sooner or whatever other options are out there for us.

>>> I was always (after surgery and until 1 month ago) been very dedicated

about working out 6 days a week and I loved it!!!!! Right now I guess I am

in a rut. I am depressed...tired and at times do not care about what I

eat.<<<

Being tired and depressed feeling all the time or even a large portion of

the time can be many things or nothing... could be a vitamin/mineral

shortage -- why not go ahead and call the doctor for your 2 year labs? Just

check it out -- if your body is trying to tell you something NOW why wait?

It could also be that your mourning your old life -- I know as an obese

person I was always either loosing or gaining weight -- never just " staying "

in one place. Now that I just " stay " in one place that whole former life is

gone and to say we don't mourn the past in our lives isn't true for a lot of

us... even if the old sucked and it was awful and we don't ever want it

back -- we still mourn it. Giving ourselves permission to " miss " that part

of who we used to be -- that part that used to define a big part of who we

were might be helpful. Your no longer the fat girl who is on a diet and

doing well or who fell off the wagon and is gaining it back now... she's in

your past and you don't ever have to be that way again -- but to say we

don't mourn the loss of that personality trait in ourselves is to fall short

of reality for a lot of us.

There are a lot of reasons we can go into a self-sabotage mode and maybe

knowing the reason isn't as important as just recognizing that we are and

what we are doing -- and the desire to change it -- I don't know what is

right for you or if you even need to know... sounds like you do know the

ramifications of your current state of mind (weight gain, not caring, and so

on....) A lot of times we don't know the " why " until we shove ourselves

" past " that and look back on it and it hits us... " Oh, that's why..... "

(hindsight... gotta love it...)

And not to leave out an important factor that I've seen over the years and

I know you have seen it too -- just plain old depression -- no reason, no

cause -- just hits some of us harder than others -- ya get a chemical

imbalance thing going on and until it is treated -- it seems to be a driving

force.

Maybe NONE of these things are true for you... only you can know what is

the right answer for you -- just some suggestions that seem kind of common

when many of us near that 2 year mark... yours could be totally different.

>>>I feel like a failure. I feel like I am lying...like there is a fat

person on the inside of me. Does this make sense? I look at me and think

YUCK! I am not satisfied with the way I look at all. When I try and talk

to someone (a friend) they are like yea right! I still feel and look ( in

my opion) a chubby person! I am 5'3 " and weigh 138-140. My body fat is

20%. I need advice...a smack...a shoulder or something!!! You know what

the saddest part is??? I am one of the leaders in our local support group!

Great! A leader who can't lead herself!!! Why is it that I can cheer

on...encourage....impart knowledge to others BUT can't do it to me????

Okay...I am done. Thanks for listening!!!!<<<

I think it is really common for many of us and many others who are leading

a support group or who are one of the " older " members -- we feel like we

can't fail, we must be perfect, we should be in a good frame of mind and eat

right and exercise right and it is our function to set the good example...

IMO... A TOTAL " set me up to fail " frame of thought!!! That is too much

pressure to put on yourself!!!

The old timers are going to have nearly an equal amount of really bad

experiences to share as good ones... we are all going to do something wrong

along the way, we are going to learn from it and share it with others

later -- and we will do right things, learn from it and share it with others

later. But we are not immune to the wrong stuff just because we cheer others

on! So, that isn't sad at all... in fact, if you allow those that you

support all the time to support you now you might find a much more

" conscious " group of support people in the future.

The feeling of being a " fraud " in our new bodies is really common -- a LOT

of us feel that and we write about it here and in other groups and say it

out loud in support groups -- I feel like a fat lady walking around in a

skinny body and I feel like the whole world can see through my scam and I'm

not conning anyone but myself if I think I look like a normal person now...

and yeah, the obese woman inside of us will always be alive and well...

waiting on us to begin eating as we did before and she will blossom --

unfortunately, this surgery isn't a cure for obesity -- it only puts our

disease in remission for as long as we use the tool... so, it isn't uncommon

at all to be " in touch " with the obese woman that lives in side of you... in

fact, it could be a good thing to be in touch with her because if she

suffered as much pain as most of us did when we were obese you can help

nurture her Spirit and help heal the wounds and pain that she suffers from

still... and she can help keep you on track by reminding you that she'll

come back any time you allow it.

Ok, so maybe that is a silly way to think about it but it works for me a

lot of times -- if I try to deny that fat lady that sits inside of me then I

get in a really funky place emotionally... only when I am nurturing my own

Spirit... including her.... do I / can I / feel whole and good.

As always, YMMV,

hugz,

~denise

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Looking in the mirror is STILL an

" iffy " thing -- some times I see me for the most part and other days I still

see me as really big...

Had the weirdest thing happen the other day......went to look in the mirror

in our bedroom.....well the kitten must have hit it too hard because it is a

long oval one that " rest " up against the corner......well, when I looked in

it there was only me from the neck down........it was unbelievable.....I

didn't realize that I always look to the head first......then look

down......well, when I couldn't it was a real eye opener........I think

everyone should try this......but you have to fix the mirror than look at it

in the morning.......don't look, fix it, then try it..........it was STRANGE

to say the least!!!!!! P.

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