Thinking too hard -- was: The Zone

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In a message dated 1/21/03 6:48:15 AM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< wondering if Ceep knows some great info on " fear and

inability to mobilize... " >>

Dear : for many people, they have take literal steps past thinking/

dreaming about it. Rather

1. force yourself, enstein-walk yourself over and pick up telephone in

a trance, dial the number, and in a weird tone of dreamy voice make

appointment to go where you want to go.

2. pledge money to the endeavor. Mean it.

3. make agreement with another human being, whether to meet them at gym, or

to train together, or however. Mean it.

4. Show up.

5. Befriend someone there.

6. Befriend another person there.

7. repeat 2-7

If this does not turn the key, there is more going on than just boredom,

garden variety resistance, and procrastination, and needs to be looked into

further. introverts sometimes have more trouble doing " public things. "

Extroverts sometimes have more trouble doing solitary things. Sometiems it is

best to go with type; solitary exercise for introerts, extroverted exercise

(dancnig for instance) for extroverts. But, the growth edge for the psyche is

often in doing the opposite of what what superior talent is; you have to

weigh and decide according to what YOU want.

I just very much encourage you to have mercy on your precious body. It cannot

take itself where it needs/wants to without your say so. Bodies LIKE movement

and strengthening and stretching. it is the body's form of recreation and

pleasure and relaxation even if it isn't your ego's idea of a great time.

mercy. That's the ticket

love,

ceep

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In a message dated 1/21/03 1:08:37 PM Central Standard Time,

vickilines@... writes:

<< I have a hard time with protein drinks. I feel

like they have this filmy after taste that is like a slimy coating

after I drink them. I'm still searching for one that works for me. >>

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Have you tried Pro-V 60 (chocolate, of course!) by Labrada? No aftertaste

with this one. And if you go 6 oz instead of 8 oz water, it's thicker than

others, esp if you let it sit a few minutes after shaking it up, before u

drink it. And since I discovered flax seed meal, which I add to the shakes,

it's REALLY great. Lots of grainy texture and adds a hearty flavor as well.

I'm always scraping up the residue in the shaker with a spatula! Oh, I also

add a quarter tsp ground cinnamon most of the time.

Carol A

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" If I go back to normal things

> then I am being disrespectful to my own feelings of mourning and

sadness... "

Oh ......I think this is perfectly normal (hopefully Mother Ceep will

have wisdom)......when my Mom died 7 years ago now I remember for a very

long time after thinking that life and people were disrespectful......I

would be at a park with people playing Frisbee, laughing, and all I could

think was....... " don't you know my Mommy just died 8 weeks ago.....you

should all be in mourning!! " " .........Mourning is very tough and very

tricky!!! Best to you honey....... P.

RE: Re: Thinking too hard -- was: The Zone

> > I was taught this by a very smart, very successful WLS person. The

> > rule of thumb for her is protein, food, vitamins, protein, food

> > vitamins...... This goes on all day. Works for me!

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> That's my same " plan " so maybe we listened to the same teacher ~smile~

even

> beats most hungry days to the ground and when it doesn't then I have a

yuck

> day -- not yuck because I gave into the craving for fried chicken but yuck

> because of how that made me feel physically (disagreement going on inside

> sort of thing...)

> I'm proximal and the same plan works, protein, food, vitamins -

> protein/vitamins - vitamins/protein and food where appropriate but the

focus

> is on health and my ideal weight is a " feeling " not a number...

>

> Oh great good ones who suffer themselves daily at the gym how do I get

> back??? I made my way through the whole emotional inability to eat (but

got

> my protein and vitamins) am making my way back to some sort of regular

days

> and can't make myself get back to the gym -- not out of laziness (well, a

> big part probably is...) but the feeling of just not wanting to do

something

> for myself... don't have winter gym cloths, don't want to buy any since we

> only have a few weeks of winter weather, still I COULD do something at

home

> yet I don't -- wondering if Ceep knows some great info on " fear and

> inability to mobilize... " and thoughts of ... " If I go back to normal

things

> then I am being disrespectful to my own feelings of mourning and

sadness... "

> (analytical or inability to compartmentalize...) and a WHOHA for she who

> mentioned using her skills of dissociation -- I can do that, have honed

> those over years of therapy so maybe just leaving long enough for the body

> to go do what the body must go do and then coming back when the fear and

> parilization sets in my comfortable chair in my comfort zone...

>

> So many thoughts you all spur... still blank on doing for myself when

> feeling of caretaking for others seem to be the only " action " thoughts I

can

> muster up.. *sigh*

>

> Probably made no sense -- don't worry about it... just rambling

> ~denise

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Oh ......I think this is perfectly normal (hopefully Mother Ceep will

have wisdom)......when my Mom died 7 years ago now I remember for a very

long time after thinking that life and people were disrespectful......I

would be at a park with people playing Frisbee, laughing, and all I could

think was....... " don't you know my Mommy just died 8 weeks ago.....you

should all be in mourning!! " " .........Mourning is very tough and very

tricky!!! Best to you honey....... P.

~

I had the exact same experience. When my mom died suddenly, and young, I

resented people going about their lives, as if the whole world had not

suddenly stopped! I know it was irrational, but I believe a part of grief.

Our worlds do stop for a time, and when others aren't stopping, it doesn't

make sense to the grieving mind.

Regards~

Jacque

Distal RNY

Drs. Fox and Oh

Beginning BMI 50.0

Current BMI 21.0

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Oh, I also

> add a quarter tsp ground cinnamon most of the time.

Cinnamon is one of those spices that " boost " your metabolism......so besides

tasting awesome.....it is doing something " awesome " ....

Re: Re: Thinking too hard -- was: The Zone

> In a message dated 1/21/03 1:08:37 PM Central Standard Time,

> vickilines@... writes:

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In a message dated 1/29/03 7:36:12 AM Central Standard Time, nanpug@...

writes:

<< Cinnamon is one of those spices that " boost " your metabolism......so

besides

tasting awesome.....it is doing something " awesome " .... >>

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Well, THAT's a new bit of info I wasn't aware of ! I don't think it's

working in my case, tho, lol. My metabolism is as sluggish as ever, and I

just don't lose anymore. I take it bcuz it's supposed to make your cells more

receptive to insulin (I used to have diabetes - pre-WLS).

Carol A

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There was an article in " Woman's World " a couple of months ago(Nov

12th)......it was all about what herbs or spices boost our metabolisms. I

actually still have it because believe it or not I went out and bought the

expensive nutmeg, ground cloves, and cinnamon.......OK, I was having a weak

moment...... P.

Re: Re: Thinking too hard -- was: The Zone

> In a message dated 1/29/03 7:36:12 AM Central Standard Time,

nanpug@...

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> << Cinnamon is one of those spices that " boost " your metabolism......so

> besides

> tasting awesome.....it is doing something " awesome " .... >>

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>

> Well, THAT's a new bit of info I wasn't aware of ! I don't think it's

> working in my case, tho, lol. My metabolism is as sluggish as ever, and I

> just don't lose anymore. I take it bcuz it's supposed to make your cells

more

> receptive to insulin (I used to have diabetes - pre-WLS).

>

> Carol A

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