Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 ....or something. I forget. I'm coming in several days late and probably a couple of bucks short on this discussion, so please forgive me any glaring stupidities or absurdities beyond my usual quota, but the lazy thing jumped out at me. I consider myself a divinely lazy person. I will go several kilometres out of my way to avoid unnecessary work...but first I have to decide whether I think the work is truly unnecessary. I know that when push comes to shove, if something's important enough to me, I am able to rouse myself out of my stupour, buckle on my armour and head out to slay the dragons or whatever...but push has to verily come to shove first, and I need to know that there is truly no other way. (Besides which, PETD, People for the Ethical Treatment of Dragons, would be all over me like a rash if they found out I was slaying the cute little dragons thither and yon...not that I'd be using leg-hold traps or beating them with clubs and skinning them right there at the mouths of their caves or anything. But the last dragon-skin coat I made out of my ill-gotten gains wound up getting covered in red paint by a bunch of Birkenstock-clad naturist vegans waving placards about meat and fur being murder. They obviously had no idea of that coat's great symbolic significance to me and those of my tribe. But I digress.) Laziness. Ah, yes. Was it Wilde who said, " Work fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours " ? (If it wasn't, I'm going to rely on someone else to look it up and correct me.) But laziness when it comes to eating? Well, there you've got me stumped. Like many here, I get into " eating ruts " , in which I will eat the same set of foods over and over again, not because I adore them, but because I need to stoke the furnace, and these particular foods happen to be close at hand. But is that part of my laziness, or just good common sense? I mean, in the real world, how many people aside from restaurant reviewers get to dine daily on tantalizing morsels of food they adore, day in and day out? I suspect that the vast majority of " normies " out there stick to the tried and true. It keeps them going, it does the job, it tastes okay, and it doesn't force them to think about food 24/7. And in the long run, as a person who has tended to have issues with food, I think I'm more inclined to side with the " rut " people for the most part, saving the delicacies for special occasions. That is, after all, what makes them delicacies, no? As for the work involved in making this surgery a success -- well, that's one of the " necessary effort " things I mentioned earlier. I came very close to death during my surgery and its aftermath. It was a big deal, at least to my family and friends and myself, and I am not willing to pretend that it didn't happen. I figure that if I was willing to pay that kind of price, the least I should do is the minimum effort needed to make the damn surgery work. Granted, I've been having trouble getting all my water in lately, but by and large, I just put my head down and keep plodding. Exercise, protein, vitamins, balanced diet, fibre, water. Right now I'm in my " ideal weight " zone, and for the first time in my life my goal is not to lose weight. I look at the post-Xmas-food-orgy magazines at the grocery store, the ones advertising " lose nine hundred pounds by Valentine's Day and fit into the sexy thong bikini and push-up bra set your sweetie is going to buy you " , and I just shake my head. I'm *so* not there any more. It's a strange feeling, a little bit frightening. I feel like I've lost my compass. What am I, if not wretchedly overweight and struggling? Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I'm delighted to be here, but it's foreign territory to me. Still, I know that it's going to take a certain minimum of work to keep me here -- currently, I define " here " as between 155-159 lbs. But is laziness really self-hatred? or is it actually about self-preservation? Guess it depends on how you define lazy. If you mean, " Want to eat whatever floats past me, with no thought for the past, present or future, " then yeah, I would say there might be some self-destruction nestling in there. But if you mean, " Will eat what I need to to get where I want to go, but won't make a big production out of it, " that seems to me to be a sanity-preserving exercise. I don't want to become one of those people who micro-manages every piece of food that passes their lips. They're obsessive, and tiresome, and worst of all, boring. (Note: if anyone here thinks I'm referring to them, you are projecting. I'm not. Really. I promise. Please don't write me hate mail, and don't fling red paint at my dragon-skin coat. It just upsets me.) Rebelling against what's good for me -- that I'm familiar with. Did it for a while, but gave it up when I started having flashbacks to puberty. I had to stop altogether when someone asked if I wanted to wear their " I love Shaun Cassidy " button. Hey, I wouldn't have worn one of those even in my preteens -- as a forty-something-year-old, it was definitely out of the question. Seriously though, why do we do this? I don't think we're rebelling against ourselves, so much as all the " adults " out there who have tried to control us. The authorities, the magazine ad writers, the fashion and beauty cops, the mums and dads and grandmothers and well-meaning but brutal teachers or aunts or sisters or...you know who I mean. Only problem is, *we're* the grown-ups now. The decisions don't belong to anyone else any longer -- they're ours to make, right or wrong. Donna, I don't have any answers to your questions, but they're good questions nonetheless. Good for you for asking them. I. Donna wrote: > What is the definition of lazy? I'm starting to think: Lazy=hates > self, rebells against self and whatever is good for self on purpose. I hate being lazy. I have just discovered that I am lazy. Sometimes I will ask myself, am I just lazy or am I tired, paranoid of going out or simply again lazy? What would cause laziness, what is the cure? -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> RNY September 19, 2001 Dr. Freeman, Ottawa General Hospital BMI then: 43.5 BMI now: 22 -152 lbs <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 I once had a discussion with my neighbors when I was a stay at home Mom with preschool kids. I complimented them on their clean and orderly house and told them that I hated housework. Each one said they hated housework too but they loved the feeling when it is done and looks so good. I told them I didn't get that feeling, that I only feel more depressed. It was simple, when they were young and they did something, their moms complimented them. When I was young and completed a task, my mother criticized it and called me a lazy slob and, this is true, told me over and over that no man would ever want me. Of course like others, after many years of therapy, I know better, but I may never get the good feelings I get when I work outside of the house. My teachers at school and my employers always appreciated my hard work. My 2 cents. Fay Bayuk 300/175 10/23/01 Dr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 What is the definition of lazy? I'm starting to think: Lazy=hates > > self, rebells I had always considered myself to be lazy. Then one day my younger sister made the remark.... " , I don't think you are lazy at all....there are just some people who are 'low energy' and that is you!' It was such a freeing revelation to me.......I mean, we have no problem referring to someone as a 'high energy' person and think that it is a compliment.......then why can't there just be 'low energy' people without it being a negative thing?? P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Sometimes it's hard to define " lazy. " I used to wonder why it was that I could never seem to complete tasks at home, when I was so effective and efficient and work. My mother and a good psychiatrist helped me to define my " problem. " At work, I had a set of tasks, with an exact procedure to follow for each (if you can call police work exact. ). So, at the very least, I had a mental checklist to follow. At home, it is a different story. I have ADD. I start one task, and get side tracked...pick up a room, go to put something away, then find something in THAT room that needs attention, and so on, until I've completely forgotten to go back to the original task. My husband will laugh at me. We'll be working outside, for example, and he'll send me to get a tool...on my way to the tool shed, I'll see a weed that needs to be pulled up. Thirty minutes later, he'll come looking for me. I'll be pulling weeds and completely forgotten what it was I was going after for him. Now, I make lists, and I keep it with me, and check off each thing as I complete it. The other part of my " laziness " is chronic major depression. I'll be on medication for it for the rest of my life. Fortunately, the medication and the lists help keep me on track. If I don't use both of these tools, I become overwhelmed and don't know where to start, and consequently, I don't get anything done. I mentally collapse. I even forget to eat. When this happens, if you didn't know me well, you'd swear I was lazy beyond belief, and the world's worst procrastinator. I'm lucky to have friends and family that recognize when I am " straying " from my routine, and give me gentle reminders. I keep a sticky note here on my monitor reminding me to take my medication. Anyway, that's my version of lazy... Jac mailto:jholdaway@... http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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