Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 It is a true story.. the man was interviewed on 20/20 or one of those shows some time back. His son is also Schiz. I saw it on the airplane going to CA in OCT/NOV. Very Very interesting.. he did just that.. he said he decided to quit listening to the voices.. not that the voices went away.. but that he decided not to listen to them.. Interesting ! Although the person doing the interview said that it is very possible that as he continues aging (he's an older man now) that his schiz condition could return. The interesting point to me was that he didn't really say it was gone.. he said he CHOSE not to listen to the voices. So I agree that if this person can do this with a very debilitating mental condition.. then why can't I just CHOOSE not to listen to my food demons.. right ! Ginger PS This was a very interesting interview for sure !! _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 YUP.....most certainly......I think the real issue here is " recognizing " what the demons/voices are. In order for Nash to ignore those voices he had to first be able to distinguish which ones are the voices to ignore and which ones are valid (I believe this is what Dan has been hitting on!!) These people were actually " real " to him....he held relationships with these people for years. I imagine that it must have been beyond surreal for him to try and figure out which ones were real or not. But yes.......I do think this is the " lifestyle " change that we need to make also....recognize the demons and oust them!!!!!! P. Beautiful Mind Story > > > It is a true story.. the man was interviewed on 20/20 or one of those shows > some time back. His son is also Schiz. I saw it on the airplane going to > CA in OCT/NOV. Very Very interesting.. he did just that.. he said he > decided to quit listening to the voices.. not that the voices went away.. > but that he decided not to listen to them.. Interesting ! Although the > person doing the interview said that it is very possible that as he > continues aging (he's an older man now) that his schiz condition could > return. The interesting point to me was that he didn't really say it was > gone.. he said he CHOSE not to listen to the voices. So I agree that if > this person can do this with a very debilitating mental condition.. then why > can't I just CHOOSE not to listen to my food demons.. right ! > > Ginger > > PS This was a very interesting interview for sure !! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Ginger: I totally believed the movie and the guy.....it is a great and moving story. I don't think all other things, like other addictions or schizophrenia can translate to our food issues for everyone. He just found the key to his own handling of the situation, and it certainly doesn't work for everyone. Sometimes people are just fortunate to find solutions to complex problems. When I lost weight after high school, the " magic " key was that I just ate as little as possible and set short-term goals. It worked, but only because it was the key at the time. It sounds very unremarkable now. in Austin RNY April 1998 Beautiful Mind Story > > > It is a true story.. the man was interviewed on 20/20 or one of those shows > some time back. His son is also Schiz. I saw it on the airplane going to > CA in OCT/NOV. Very Very interesting.. he did just that.. he said he > decided to quit listening to the voices.. not that the voices went away.. > but that he decided not to listen to them.. Interesting ! Although the > person doing the interview said that it is very possible that as he > continues aging (he's an older man now) that his schiz condition could > return. The interesting point to me was that he didn't really say it was > gone.. he said he CHOSE not to listen to the voices. So I agree that if > this person can do this with a very debilitating mental condition.. then why > can't I just CHOOSE not to listen to my food demons.. right ! > > Ginger > > PS This was a very interesting interview for sure !! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 In a message dated 1/19/03 10:13:03 AM Central Standard Time, msgingerb@... writes: << if this person can do this with a very debilitating mental condition.. then why can't I just CHOOSE not to listen to my food demons.. right ! >> --------------------- So, is this working for you, Ginger? Are you actually able to choose not to eat? Do you ever feel hunger? I feel hungry all the time. It doesn't feel like a choice at all for me. I wonder if it does to the few of us whose surgeries have not had a restrictive effect............ Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 In a message dated 1/19/2003 11:41:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, tuesdynite@... writes: << I feel hungry all the time. It doesn't feel like a choice at all for me. I wonder if it does to the few of us whose surgeries have not had a restrictive effect... >> Do you really Carol?? For many months after surgery I still had the same CRAVINGS but I could not honestly say I was hungry. There are still some times I have extremely strong cravings for a particular type of food, but rarely give in to it. On the other hand there are times when I feel genuine hunger and cannot think of a single appealing thing that would be healthy and not make me feel bad, so I just ignore it and go on. Before surgery I think I was afraid to feel actual hunger, now it is preferable to the pain of eating the wrong foods. Last year I ate so much chicken salad/egg salad/tuna salad that I don't think I'm ever going to be able to eat it again. I'm just about to that point with my current standbys of cheese, cashews and beef jerkey. God, I wish it would warm up so I could get more enthused about the protein shakes. I spent the weekend on a binge of old movies, olives, lobster, asparagus and coffee. I was NOT hungry, I was cold, lonely and avoiding working. Halfway through the weekend I needed to move the tv and computer into the bathroom. Have lit candles through the house to keep from blowing up the house. ly I'm glad its Monday and I am back on discipline, too much freedom and I would kill myself.....but have a good time going....lolol. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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