Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 Dear all brave souls: PHYSICAL HUNGER I've never had what some call an eating disorder, but I have treated others who have various eating " misunderstandings " over the years now. Here is just my two cent's worth of observation: For many people, physical hunger is a feeling of the stomach cramping, aching, having physical pangs or a sense within the body of feeling weak, sometimes feeling suddenly tired, running out of energy, unable to concentrate well, and so on, as stores in the body need replenishing.... For some it is a feeling of being cross or irritable or ready to spring. HEAD HUNGER TYPE ONE For many people, head hunger is a desire to lower an emotional threshold that feels uncomfortable or painful, thereby causing more anxiety, more sense of misapprehension, more sense of 'lostness. " Such as, feeling " too " anxious, " too " fearful, " too " excited, " too " bored, " too " hurried, " too " angry, " too " happy, " too " sad, " too scared, " " too " turned off, " too resistant to doing something one does not want to do or is afraid to do, " etc. Taking in foods of certain kinds and in certain amounts is a most immediate and perhaps even primitive way, that is INHERENT in many persons. People are brilliant actually. They intuitively realize that foods of certain kinds will lower their anxiety thresholds to a reasonable roar....and often allow them to say the no they want to say, or to go ahead and do what needs to be done, (and as often enough, to go back to being the compliant boy or girl they have been taught to be instead of speaking up for themselves), or whatever else is on their minds. Though they may feel poorly afterwards perhaps from the side effects of what they have eaten, or the amounts they have eaten, and may feel crummy in one part of their mind for eating something that might cause them to gain weight, or maintain a high weight-- in another part of the brain, the eating of the food has in fact helped to lower the excess load of anxiety EFFECTIVELY. Though it may not work for weight or self-esteem, the food mediation does work for lessening that " over-revving of the interior engine. " We have all had that experience where the inside seems to be going much faster than the outside is capable of keeping up with. people often use a metaphor like that to describe the feeling of head hunger/ anxiety/ panic. HEAD HUNGER TYPE TWO appears to deal with the same issues, but the response to overload is to feel down, blue or depressed instead of anxious, and to eat the kinds of foodstuffs that mediate this overwhelm to an appreciable degree. AGAIN, the feeling afterward is one of temporarily and successfully having avoided a catastrophe, but the fall out to self esteem and somewhat sick feeling in the physical body from eating food that often causes glucose and perhaps adrenaline floooding, often overshadow this very EFFECTIVE but primitive scheme to balance one's emotional, sensate, and kinesthetic sensibilities. HEAD HUNGER TYPE THREE Is a combination of both anxiety and feeling melancholy, and needs to be differentiated carefully to see what is really going on and to take action accordingly. THE GOOD NEWS is that many persons who have used these brilliant intuitive means (foods) (and they are brilliant, make no mistake) to self-regulate their emotional sensitivities, can learn to put conscious differentiation and thoughtfulness in the place of food, and to regulate and balance their thresholds of tolerance by acting and speaking and doing in certain (often new) ways. These new ways, consciously practiced with consistency, will have the same or similar effect of calming and balancing the " sense of self " that food formerly did. just my two cent's worth love, ceep G-MOM shrink In a message dated 1/11/03 9:14:20 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes: << Could you please explain how you really tell if it is head hunger of physical hunger you are feeling. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 Wow Ceep - Another wonderful Explanation. Again, can I repost to the oldies. As Far as giving credit, Please e-mail again what it should say. Fay Bayuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 feeling of satiety Thanks ceep, that was an excellent description of hunger types. Barbara Dear all brave souls: PHYSICAL HUNGER I've never had what some call an eating disorder, but I have treated others who have various eating " misunderstandings " over the years now. Here is just my two cent's worth of observation: For many people, physical hunger is a feeling of the stomach cramping, aching, having physical pangs or a sense within the body of feeling weak, sometimes feeling suddenly tired, running out of energy, unable to concentrate well, and so on, as stores in the body need replenishing.... For some it is a feeling of being cross or irritable or ready to spring. HEAD HUNGER TYPE ONE For many people, head hunger is a desire to lower an emotional threshold that feels uncomfortable or painful, thereby causing more anxiety, more sense of misapprehension, more sense of 'lostness. " Such as, feeling " too " anxious, " too " fearful, " too " excited, " too " bored, " too " hurried, " too " angry, " too " happy, " too " sad, " too scared, " " too " turned off, " too resistant to doing something one does not want to do or is afraid to do, " etc. Taking in foods of certain kinds and in certain amounts is a most immediate and perhaps even primitive way, that is INHERENT in many persons. People are brilliant actually. They intuitively realize that foods of certain kinds will lower their anxiety thresholds to a reasonable roar....and often allow them to say the no they want to say, or to go ahead and do what needs to be done, (and as often enough, to go back to being the compliant boy or girl they have been taught to be instead of speaking up for themselves), or whatever else is on their minds. Though they may feel poorly afterwards perhaps from the side effects of what they have eaten, or the amounts they have eaten, and may feel crummy in one part of their mind for eating something that might cause them to gain weight, or maintain a high weight-- in another part of the brain, the eating of the food has in fact helped to lower the excess load of anxiety EFFECTIVELY. Though it may not work for weight or self-esteem, the food mediation does work for lessening that " over-revving of the interior engine. " We have all had that experience where the inside seems to be going much faster than the outside is capable of keeping up with. people often use a metaphor like that to describe the feeling of head hunger/ anxiety/ panic. HEAD HUNGER TYPE TWO appears to deal with the same issues, but the response to overload is to feel down, blue or depressed instead of anxious, and to eat the kinds of foodstuffs that mediate this overwhelm to an appreciable degree. AGAIN, the feeling afterward is one of temporarily and successfully having avoided a catastrophe, but the fall out to self esteem and somewhat sick feeling in the physical body from eating food that often causes glucose and perhaps adrenaline floooding, often overshadow this very EFFECTIVE but primitive scheme to balance one's emotional, sensate, and kinesthetic sensibilities. HEAD HUNGER TYPE THREE Is a combination of both anxiety and feeling melancholy, and needs to be differentiated carefully to see what is really going on and to take action accordingly. THE GOOD NEWS is that many persons who have used these brilliant intuitive means (foods) (and they are brilliant, make no mistake) to self-regulate their emotional sensitivities, can learn to put conscious differentiation and thoughtfulness in the place of food, and to regulate and balance their thresholds of tolerance by acting and speaking and doing in certain (often new) ways. These new ways, consciously practiced with consistency, will have the same or similar effect of calming and balancing the " sense of self " that food formerly did. just my two cent's worth love, ceep G-MOM shrink In a message dated 1/11/03 9:14:20 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes: << Could you please explain how you really tell if it is head hunger of physical hunger you are feeling. >> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 Hi Ceep, This is worth way more than two cents as is pretty much everything you say here (yes, even the evil stuff). Wow, do I ever see myself in both of your head hunger descriptions. What you said really brings out to me some of the reasons for my eating behaviors. I've used food for just about everything in my life for so many years that I barely know myself and at 48 years young, that is pretty sad. I don't know what I like to do in life, what I want to do in life, don't remember much about my past, etc. But I certainly can answer any question about when I ate something, were I ate it, why I ate it, etc. We have already won when we believe it in our hearts. ICQ: 67869779 AIM: joydenisek > Dear all brave souls: > PHYSICAL HUNGER > I've never had what some call an eating disorder, but I have treated others > who have various eating " misunderstandings " over the years now. Here is just > my two cent's worth of observation: For many people, physical hunger is a > feeling of the stomach cramping, aching, having physical pangs or a sense > within the body of feeling weak, sometimes feeling suddenly tired, running > out of energy, unable to concentrate well, and so on, as stores in the body > need replenishing.... For some it is a feeling of being cross or irritable or > ready to spring. > > HEAD HUNGER TYPE ONE > For many people, head hunger is a desire to lower an emotional threshold that > feels uncomfortable or painful, thereby causing more anxiety, more sense of > misapprehension, more sense of 'lostness. " Such as, feeling " too " anxious, > " too " fearful, " too " excited, " too " bored, " too " hurried, " too " angry, " too " > happy, " too " sad, " too scared, " " too " turned off, " too resistant to doing > something one does not want to do or is afraid to do, " etc. Taking in foods > of certain kinds and in certain amounts is a most immediate and perhaps even > primitive way, that is INHERENT in many persons. People are brilliant > actually. They intuitively realize that foods of certain kinds will lower > their anxiety thresholds to a reasonable roar....and often allow them to say > the no they want to say, or to go ahead and do what needs to be done, (and as > often enough, to go back to being the compliant boy or girl they have been > taught to be instead of speaking up for themselves), or whatever else is on > their minds. > > Though they may feel poorly afterwards perhaps from the side effects of what > they have eaten, or the amounts they have eaten, and may feel crummy in one > part of their mind for eating something that might cause them to gain weight, > or maintain a high weight-- in another part of the brain, the eating of the > food has in fact helped to lower the excess load of anxiety EFFECTIVELY. > Though it may not work for weight or self-esteem, the food mediation does > work for lessening that " over-revving of the interior engine. " We have all > had that experience where the inside seems to be going much faster than the > outside is capable of keeping up with. people often use a metaphor like that > to describe the feeling of head hunger/ anxiety/ panic. > > HEAD HUNGER TYPE TWO > appears to deal with the same issues, but the response to overload is to feel > down, blue or depressed instead of anxious, and to eat the kinds of > foodstuffs that mediate this overwhelm to an appreciable degree. AGAIN, the > feeling afterward is one of temporarily and successfully having avoided a > catastrophe, but the fall out to self esteem and somewhat sick feeling in the > physical body from eating food that often causes glucose and perhaps > adrenaline floooding, often overshadow this very EFFECTIVE but primitive > scheme to balance one's emotional, sensate, and kinesthetic sensibilities. > > HEAD HUNGER TYPE THREE > Is a combination of both anxiety and feeling melancholy, and needs to be > differentiated carefully to see what is really going on and to take action > accordingly. > > THE GOOD NEWS > is that many persons who have used these brilliant intuitive means (foods) > (and they are brilliant, make no mistake) to self-regulate their emotional > sensitivities, can learn to put conscious differentiation and thoughtfulness > in the place of food, and to regulate and balance their thresholds of > tolerance by acting and speaking and doing in certain (often new) ways. These > new ways, consciously practiced with consistency, will have the same or > similar effect of calming and balancing the " sense of self " that food > formerly did. > > just my two cent's worth > love, > ceep G-MOM shrink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 06:03:16 -0800 (PST) beau2fulspirit@...> writes: > Lori - I have been eating cereal for breakfast lately. > I really haven't noticed if there's a difference in my > hunger level if I eat cereal vs. carbs, however, I'll > try eating protein and see if that helps. , I hate to mention this but cereal is a carb. I notice the difference between eating carbs and eating protein. I am hoping that is what you meant. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs. SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Thanks Ceep I am definitely HEAD HUNGER and it is up to me to determine it's triggers and try to point it in a more helpful direction. Eating does not solve the problem does it, Terri in Temecula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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