Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 I have a question? what is High Gamma? is it fish oil? I already give vitamin E and Omega369.. and what brand/name should I look for? copelpot <copelpot@...> wrote: Anyone else notice they need the > higher gamma? YES! I have tried adding on Vitamin E here as well. We have only used up to 400 IU, but I have noticed more fussiness, more moodiness and of course not as many speech sounds/attempts on the regular E. When I recently switched back to High Gamma, I am seeing wonderful improvements after just 4 days,including the ability to mimic hand movements and gestures/signs, more easily without stressing. He is also attempting speech and getting cues by looking at our mouths. Participation in his Kindermusik class has been awesome for the past two classes and things are looking way up. Only new things are the High Gamma and the addition of 1 Evening Primrose Oil to the ProEfa and ProEPA mix. --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 No, it isn't fish oil. Vitamin E comes in 4 forms - alpha, beta, delta and gamma tocopherol. Alpha is the most active in the body, but higher doses of alpha can cause a gamma deficiency, so we that are using Vitamin E with our kids are trying to also give 200-300 mg per day of gamma. One of the more readily available products on the market is Vitamin World's High Gamma Tocopherol with 200IU of alpha and 200mg of gamma (note: you don't add the two values together - 200 IUs of alpha is still just 200IUs). However, a few of us (me included) are finding that our kids actually need the higher gamma doses along with the alpha. What I posted previously about my son was that I was giving him just one of the High Gamma Tocopherol gelcaps per day, then increased to 2 per day. Since that was a total of 400mg of gamma I decided to change the 2nd dose to just a straight alpha dose with no gamma. We had regression as if he did not even get the 2nd dose (I tried this on two different days and saw the same results both time). I went back to 2 High Gammas per day and there is no regression. > Anyone else notice they need the > > higher gamma? > > YES! I have tried adding on Vitamin E here as well. We have only > used up to 400 IU, but I have noticed more fussiness, more moodiness > and of course not as many speech sounds/attempts on the regular E. > When I recently switched back to High Gamma, I am seeing wonderful > improvements after just 4 days,including the ability to mimic hand > movements and gestures/signs, more easily without stressing. He is > also attempting speech and getting cues by looking at our mouths. > Participation in his Kindermusik class has been awesome for the past > two classes and things are looking way up. Only new things are the > High Gamma and the addition of 1 Evening Primrose Oil to the ProEfa > and ProEPA mix. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Ok, I'm getting confused. If 425mg= 200 IU's, then how many IU's would 500mg be? I found a product with 500mg's of natural source Gammas. It that too much? I haven't seen much of a change, if any, in my son with the Vit. E. Might the high Gammas be in order? Also, I'm starting to lose faith in the fish oils. Results were fantastic the 1st 3 mos. on the NN complete (2 gelcapsules per day). Then I added 2 EPA's to that, and eventually increased the Omegas to 4 with the EPAs. I saw nothing. Then I went back to 2 omegas, and one vit. e with no results. Can anybody help get us back on track? Thanks, On 12/9/06, fkewatson <kwatsoneei@...> wrote: > > No, it isn't fish oil. Vitamin E comes in 4 forms - alpha, beta, > delta and gamma tocopherol. Alpha is the most active in the body, > but higher doses of alpha can cause a gamma deficiency, so we that > are using Vitamin E with our kids are trying to also give 200-300 mg > per day of gamma. One of the more readily available products on the > market is Vitamin World's High Gamma Tocopherol with 200IU of alpha > and 200mg of gamma (note: you don't add the two values together - > 200 IUs of alpha is still just 200IUs). > > However, a few of us (me included) are finding that our kids actually > need the higher gamma doses along with the alpha. What I posted > previously about my son was that I was giving him just one of the > High Gamma Tocopherol gelcaps per day, then increased to 2 per day. > Since that was a total of 400mg of gamma I decided to change the 2nd > dose to just a straight alpha dose with no gamma. We had regression > as if he did not even get the 2nd dose (I tried this on two different > days and saw the same results both time). I went back to 2 High > Gammas per day and there is no regression. > > > > Anyone else notice they need the > > > higher gamma? > > > > YES! I have tried adding on Vitamin E here as well. We have only > > used up to 400 IU, but I have noticed more fussiness, more > moodiness > > and of course not as many speech sounds/attempts on the regular E. > > When I recently switched back to High Gamma, I am seeing wonderful > > improvements after just 4 days,including the ability to mimic hand > > movements and gestures/signs, more easily without stressing. He is > > also attempting speech and getting cues by looking at our mouths. > > Participation in his Kindermusik class has been awesome for the > past > > two classes and things are looking way up. Only new things are the > > High Gamma and the addition of 1 Evening Primrose Oil to the ProEfa > > and ProEPA mix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it > now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I don't think gamma is expressed in IUs. The d-alpha is expressed as IUs and the gamma is expressed as mg. I've not seen it any other way. > > > Anyone else notice they need the > > > > higher gamma? > > > > > > YES! I have tried adding on Vitamin E here as well. We have only > > > used up to 400 IU, but I have noticed more fussiness, more > > moodiness > > > and of course not as many speech sounds/attempts on the regular E. > > > When I recently switched back to High Gamma, I am seeing wonderful > > > improvements after just 4 days,including the ability to mimic hand > > > movements and gestures/signs, more easily without stressing. He is > > > also attempting speech and getting cues by looking at our mouths. > > > Participation in his Kindermusik class has been awesome for the > > past > > > two classes and things are looking way up. Only new things are the > > > High Gamma and the addition of 1 Evening Primrose Oil to the ProEfa > > > and ProEPA mix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it > > now. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 > > > > Anyone else notice they need the > > > > > higher gamma? > > > > > > > > YES! I have tried adding on Vitamin E here as well. We have only > > > > used up to 400 IU, but I have noticed more fussiness, more > > > moodiness > > > > and of course not as many speech sounds/attempts on the regular > E. > > > > When I recently switched back to High Gamma, I am seeing > wonderful > > > > improvements after just 4 days,including the ability to mimic > hand > > > > movements and gestures/signs, more easily without stressing. He > is > > > > also attempting speech and getting cues by looking at our > mouths. > > > > Participation in his Kindermusik class has been awesome for the > > > past > > > > two classes and things are looking way up. Only new things are > the > > > > High Gamma and the addition of 1 Evening Primrose Oil to the > ProEfa > > > > and ProEPA mix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try > it > > > now. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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