Re: acid reducer required after rny?

[Guest guest]

When your stomach is empty you get, pain or burning or bad taste and it is

relieve with food.

[Guest guest]

How does one know one is having acid problems?

love,

ceep

> again, everyone is different (where have I heard that before) I

just started

> having acid problems again and am on previcid, but only for 1 month.

>

> Fay Bayuk

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<>

Well one way (which I don't recommend, but have) is your teeth rot and you

wind up with dentures. The other is severe GERD...also been there.

Jac

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/09/2003 6:00:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,

nanpug@... writes:

> WLS is actually toted as a " cure " for reflux in a lot of articles that I

> have read. It did cure mine also....... P.

>

Hi. Barb B. here. My GERD was cured for only the first two or so months.

When it returned, the burning was up in my throat, just like pre-op. I've

read it no longer happens that way (symptoms), but---on ME, it does. I take

prevacid every morning & axid every nite. And when I don't watch what I eat?

I get symptoms and pop an extra Axid during the event. I had Chili the other

night (homemade), it was awesome & I made it extra hot....at 3am, it

certainly was not as good the " second time " around.

Barb B.

[Guest guest]

I just thought I'd toss this out there as a " for me " -- I had serious bad

acid reflux/GERD when I had my RnY and have not had a single " reflux " in

over 2 years now and have not taken a single pill for it either... no acid

reflux, my esophagus has been healed a long time now and no medications

beyond the surgery itself to help with a problem I don't have any longer...

don't know why, just haven't had it come up (pun intended.)

hugz,

~denise

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[Guest guest]

The most recent studies that I have read (I THINK it was GNC's Live Well

magazine) have proven that 7 out of 10 adults have acid reflux and DON'T

know it. They conducted a sleep study tested.....the " swabbed " the peoples

esophagueses (sp) before and after the nights sleep. NONE of the

participants were people who had any signs of reflux prior. I don't think

that it is a matter of everyone being different. It is not something that

you are going to " feel " like you would normal reflux......that is not the

purpose of the meds.......the purpose is because of where are intestines

were attatched to the new pouch.......unfortunately I don't think you are

going to feel anything from that area until it is too late!! P.

Re: acid reducer required after rny?

> How does one know one is having acid problems?

>

> love,

> ceep

>

>

> > again, everyone is different (where have I heard that before) I

> just started

> > having acid problems again and am on previcid, but only for 1 month.

> >

> > Fay Bayuk

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

But let's remember.....it is NOT the reflux that we are worried

about............... P.

Re: Re: acid reducer required after rny?

> When your stomach is empty you get, pain or burning or bad taste and it is

> relieve with food.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WLS is actually toted as a " cure " for reflux in a lot of articles that I

have read. It did cure mine also....... P.

RE: acid reducer required after RnY?

> I just thought I'd toss this out there as a " for me " -- I had serious bad

> acid reflux/GERD when I had my RnY and have not had a single " reflux " in

> over 2 years now and have not taken a single pill for it either... no acid

> reflux, my esophagus has been healed a long time now and no medications

> beyond the surgery itself to help with a problem I don't have any

longer...

> don't know why, just haven't had it come up (pun intended.)

>

> hugz,

> ~denise

> ----

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>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>The way it was explained to me at my time of surgery was that the reason

we have to stay on them for life is because the area of intestines that they

sew to the new pouch was not intended to be in contact with such a high acid

base.<<<

My guess is, once again, we are all going to be different on this. I was

scoped a couple of months ago and because of my GERD history (and because

Versed doesn't EVER put me to sleep) I watched the screen -- I was double

checked on the GERD, we saw some scar tissue where sores had totally healed,

we saw no fluids of any type in my pouch... not even a little watery

anything... it was pink and moist but no visible fluids, no signs of ulcers,

marginal or otherwise -- and if you want to look -- I posted the pictures in

the files section here a while back... one is of my pouch taken from the

opening of my esophagus down directly into my pouch... you can see...

nothing there.

It may take well over 2 years for a problem to come up... some have

mentioned that the " acid reflux " had different symptoms post-op ... if that

is the case could someone list what symptoms it does have and how it is

different from the symptoms we had pre-op and what we need to watch for?

Thanks,

~denise

[Guest guest]

Pain- in my case not awful pain, just a gnawing-maybe-if-I-eat-

something-it-will-go-away type pain. It's just under the breastbone

and kinda sorta radiates horziontally. As long as I take the OTC

Tagmet or Zantac twice a day it's gone and only returns if I forget

to take the darn pills. Can sometimes do one a day for a few days

but not for long. Surgeon wasn't too concerned just shrugged and

said, Yup, sometimes happens- take the pills.

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

How does one know one is having acid problems?

love,

ceep

[Guest guest]

I don't know if it is necessarily a cure. I know people who had reflux

before surgery who no longer have it (myself included) but I also know

people that it just improved greatly. The fact of the matter is, we are

all individuals. Consequently blanket statements can often be misleading

at best.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs.

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:00:56 -0500 " nancy pugliese " nanpug@...>

writes:

> WLS is actually toted as a " cure " for reflux in a lot of articles

> that I

> have read. It did cure mine also....... P.

> RE: acid reducer required after RnY?

>

>

> > I just thought I'd toss this out there as a " for me " -- I had

> serious bad

> > acid reflux/GERD when I had my RnY and have not had a single

> " reflux " in

> > over 2 years now and have not taken a single pill for it either...

> no acid

> > reflux, my esophagus has been healed a long time now and no

> medications

> > beyond the surgery itself to help with a problem I don't have any

> longer...

> > don't know why, just haven't had it come up (pun intended.)

> >

> > hugz,

> > ~denise

> > ----

> > https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=5ANS6MHB8RHCQ

> >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Isn't GERD one of the comorbidities that is supposed to be cured with Roux En Y

gastric bypass surgery?

OK, I can see this is you have a lap band or a surgery that doesn't transect the

stomach and have a staple line disruption. But how, physically, can stomach

acid come from a transected stomach, down to the common channel, then back up

the other side of the Y limb and back into the pouch?

The only possibility I can see here is that " maybe " the tiny pouch makes a small

amount of stomach acid itself? But, I have never heard of this.

Chrissie

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My WLS Journey:

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----- Original Message ----- From: Jacque Holdaway

< >

Well one way (which I don't recommend, but have) is your teeth rot and you

wind up with dentures. The other is severe GERD...also been there.

[Guest guest]

What I have understood is that if you want to keep taking them after the pouch

is healed, you can, with no problem. You would especially use one (Zantac,

etc-perscription) if you have a tendency toward ulcers. You would also take one

with any med that is hard on the stomach, supposing that you really need that

med....like Celebrex, Vioxx or any other " hard on the stomach " type med.

Chrissie

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My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

[Guest guest]

I can’t explain HOW, I can only tell you it DOES. When I had my surgery,

NONE of my stomach was removed. A small part was stapled off (about 3

ounces), and my intestines were resected….but not removed. None of my

stomach was removed, just taken out of commission. 20 some odd years post

op, I started doing some research. To the best of my knowledge, I had a

proximal RNY, but at the time, it was called a Mason By Pass. I was told, at

the time, that none of my stomach was removed, because it would continue to

produce digestive juices, and although it wouldn’t get any food, would

continue to contribute to my digestion normally. It seems to have done that,

but I still have gastric reflux, and consequently, I have dentures. And I’ve

weighed around 150 lbs for almost 20 years.

Jac

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[Guest guest]

> Hi. Barb B. here. My GERD was cured for only the first two or so months.

> When it returned, the burning was up in my throat, just like pre-op. I've

> read it no longer happens that way (symptoms), but---on ME, it does. I

take

> prevacid every morning & axid every nite. And when I don't watch what I

eat?

> I get symptoms and pop an extra Axid during the event. I had Chili the

other

> night (homemade), it was awesome & I made it extra hot....at 3am, it

> certainly was not as good the " second time " around.

>

Barb B.

*********************************************

Barb,

I also have problems with acid. The normal antiacids don't do anything for

me. I took Prilosec for years and now take Nexium. I love tomatoes but

always need extra medicine when I eat them. Mine also burns up my throat. It

can get so bad if I don't take the pills that I'm unable to eat and throwing

up constantly (bile).

Dawn

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Is your pouch horizontal?

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RE: Re: acid reducer required after rny?

> I can't explain HOW, I can only tell you it DOES. When I had my surgery,

> NONE of my stomach was removed. A small part was stapled off (about 3

> ounces), and my intestines were resected..but not removed. None of my

> stomach was removed, just taken out of commission. 20 some odd years post

> op, I started doing some research. To the best of my knowledge, I had a

> proximal RNY, but at the time, it was called a Mason By Pass. I was told,

at

> the time, that none of my stomach was removed, because it would continue

to

> produce digestive juices, and although it wouldn't get any food, would

> continue to contribute to my digestion normally. It seems to have done

that,

> but I still have gastric reflux, and consequently, I have dentures. And

I've

> weighed around 150 lbs for almost 20 years.

>

> Jac

> mailto:jholdaway@...

> http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

> http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, from what I understand of the Mason By-Pass, it was done differently and

yes, it did have problems with gastric reflux. It isn't the same as the current

RNY, although some doctors try to pass it off as an RNY. My sister, who is

getting ready for WLS, went to a surgeon in Phila who said she did the proximal

RNY, but when she explained the surgery it was really the old Mason By Pass,

just altered a little bit. My sister opted for another surgeon.

Chrissie

shihtzumom@...

http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

RE: Re: acid reducer required after rny?

I can't explain HOW, I can only tell you it DOES. When I had my surgery,

NONE of my stomach was removed. A small part was stapled off (about 3

ounces), and my intestines were resected..but not removed. None of my

stomach was removed, just taken out of commission. 20 some odd years post

op, I started doing some research. To the best of my knowledge, I had a

proximal RNY, but at the time, it was called a Mason By Pass. I was told, at

the time, that none of my stomach was removed, because it would continue to

produce digestive juices, and although it wouldn't get any food, would

continue to contribute to my digestion normally. It seems to have done that,

but I still have gastric reflux, and consequently, I have dentures. And I've

weighed around 150 lbs for almost 20 years.

Jac

mailto:jholdaway@...

http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints

[Guest guest]

EXACTLY......sorry if you took my statement as a blanket

statement.....nothing I have said was intended as such. It was exactly the

point that I was trying to make....that noone can say " my doctor didn't say

so, so obviously we don't need to. " I listened to everything my physician

said...questioned it, read and prayed....then did what I thought

sounded/felt right. I guess because I paraphrased it the way my Doc said

it..... " All WLS patients will have to take acid reducers for life! " ,it

sounded as though " I " was making a blanket statement..I guess I never really

stopped to question that there might be other Doc's out there who

don't.........well, I guess we can chalk this one up there with the

" protein, water, aspartame etc debates.........sorry folks....didn't mean to

start anything nancy p.

RE: acid reducer required after RnY?

> >

> >

> > > I just thought I'd toss this out there as a " for me " -- I had

> > serious bad

> > > acid reflux/GERD when I had my RnY and have not had a single

> > " reflux " in

> > > over 2 years now and have not taken a single pill for it either...

> > no acid

> > > reflux, my esophagus has been healed a long time now and no

> > medications

> > > beyond the surgery itself to help with a problem I don't have any

> > longer...

> > > don't know why, just haven't had it come up (pun intended.)

> > >

> > > hugz,

> > > ~denise

> > > ----

> > > https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=5ANS6MHB8RHCQ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > >

> > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Actually, I totally agreed with what you said, we just said it different.

I generally don't pay a lot of attention to blanket statements. I just

assume that, for that particular person, what was said was true. I am

also on a couple of other sites with a lot of newbies and didn't want to

be mistaken for misleading anyone. I also forget which site is which.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 339.5 lbs. and loosing again

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:32:11 -0500 " nancy pugliese " nanpug@...>

writes:

> EXACTLY......sorry if you took my statement as a blanket

> statement.....nothing I have said was intended as such. It was

> exactly the

> point that I was trying to make....that noone can say " my doctor

> didn't say

> so, so obviously we don't need to. " I listened to everything my

> physician

> said...questioned it, read and prayed....then did what I thought

> sounded/felt right. I guess because I paraphrased it the way my Doc

> said

> it..... " All WLS patients will have to take acid reducers for

> life! " ,it

> sounded as though " I " was making a blanket statement..I guess I

> never really

> stopped to question that there might be other Doc's out there who

> don't.........well, I guess we can chalk this one up there with the

> " protein, water, aspartame etc debates.........sorry folks....didn't

> mean to

> start anything nancy p.

> RE: acid reducer required after RnY?

> > >

> > >

> > > > I just thought I'd toss this out there as a " for me " -- I had

> > > serious bad

> > > > acid reflux/GERD when I had my RnY and have not had a single

> > > " reflux " in

> > > > over 2 years now and have not taken a single pill for it

> either...

> > > no acid

> > > > reflux, my esophagus has been healed a long time now and no

> > > medications

> > > > beyond the surgery itself to help with a problem I don't have

> any

> > > longer...

> > > > don't know why, just haven't had it come up (pun intended.)

> > > >

> > > > hugz,

> > > > ~denise

> > > > ----

> > > > https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=5ANS6MHB8RHCQ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > > >

> > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Ya know Barb...I guess I shouldn't be sooo quick to say that it cured mine

either......I just think that because I have never stopped taking my stuff since

the surgery. I guess if I went off of it for a while I would know.......but

having two parents die of esophagual cancer I don't think I'll even bother

nancy P.

Re: acid reducer required after RnY?

In a message dated 01/09/2003 6:00:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,

nanpug@... writes:

WLS is actually toted as a " cure " for reflux in a lot of articles that I

have read. It did cure mine also....... P.

Hi. Barb B. here. My GERD was cured for only the first two or so months. When

it returned, the burning was up in my throat, just like pre-op. I've read it no

longer happens that way (symptoms), but---on ME, it does. I take prevacid every

morning & axid every nite. And when I don't watch what I eat? I get symptoms and

pop an extra Axid during the event. I had Chili the other night (homemade), it

was awesome & I made it extra hot....at 3am, it certainly was not as good the

" second time " around.

Barb B.

[Guest guest]

Well,

not to add to the debate........but if you use aspartame, you will have more

acid reflux than if you don't.

(who learned the hard way) in Nebraska

[Guest guest]

I have been reading this tread with interest. I also take something for

reflux. I have a 1 ounce (well, it was one ounce two years ago)

transected pouch. I don't know which direction it was transected

in.....but I do know I probably have a hiatal hernia and taking my meds

HELPS. Other wise........no coffee (I know, I know......but even my doc

said because of ALL my infections that a LITTLE caffeine is good as it

acts as a mild diuretic and I only have ONE cup)no tomatoes, nothing

spicy at all. And let me tell you ....... I think I live with the

original frito bandito......he LOVES spicy foods.

AND......just incase I forget.....which is LIKELY......Jan 22 is my 4

(read it FOUR) year anniversary of my ORIGINAL RNY! And

tomorrow......Liberty (my show boston girl) and I start the new year of

shows at the Puyallup Fair grounds.....for THREE days of showing.

Something I wouldn't have been able to do four years ago. Wish us

LUCK.....I really want to get her championship finished. LOL She is

witchy woman when she is in season......and I would prefer to show a

boy.

Debbie in Gig Harbor

[Guest guest]

YUP....now that I think of it I remember reading from the websit that

someone posted her before that the problem with the old " Mason " thing had

someting to do with the way the intestine was looped or something.......I

think it created a backflow of acid problem....does anyone else remember

that article? P.

RE: Re: acid reducer required after rny?

>

>

> I can't explain HOW, I can only tell you it DOES. When I had my surgery,

> NONE of my stomach was removed. A small part was stapled off (about 3

> ounces), and my intestines were resected..but not removed. None of my

> stomach was removed, just taken out of commission. 20 some odd years

post

> op, I started doing some research. To the best of my knowledge, I had a

> proximal RNY, but at the time, it was called a Mason By Pass. I was

told, at

> the time, that none of my stomach was removed, because it would continue

to

> produce digestive juices, and although it wouldn't get any food, would

> continue to contribute to my digestion normally. It seems to have done

that,

> but I still have gastric reflux, and consequently, I have dentures. And

I've

> weighed around 150 lbs for almost 20 years.

>

> Jac

> mailto:jholdaway@...

> http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/

> http://members.cox.net/xxxfarmpaints

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WOW Lori.....this is a good rule to adhere to.......I guess that is what I

always kinda do......You just seemed to be able to some it up so good in a

nice little package......man can it be hard to dicipher all this stuff

sometimes P.

RE: acid reducer required after RnY?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I just thought I'd toss this out there as a " for me " -- I had

> > > > serious bad

> > > > > acid reflux/GERD when I had my RnY and have not had a single

> > > > " reflux " in

> > > > > over 2 years now and have not taken a single pill for it

> > either...

> > > > no acid

> > > > > reflux, my esophagus has been healed a long time now and no

> > > > medications

> > > > > beyond the surgery itself to help with a problem I don't have

> > any

> > > > longer...

> > > > > don't know why, just haven't had it come up (pun intended.)

> > > > >

> > > > > hugz,

> > > > > ~denise

> > > > > ----

> > > > > https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=5ANS6MHB8RHCQ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > > > >

> > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

OH MAN.........I'll second that....and to futher add to the debate......if I

avoided carbs (pre-WLS anyway)......I had absolutely NO pain. When I did

Atkin's I could eat pepperoni before bed and was just fine........most of

the people on the Atkin's board at that time had the same story.........go

figure! P.

Re: acid reducer required after RnY?

> Well,

> not to add to the debate........but if you use aspartame, you will have

more

> acid reflux than if you don't.

> (who learned the hard way) in Nebraska

>

>