How to do it right

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You said it well Fay. Though morbid obesity may result from the secondary

issue of overeating, the charge to overeat is likely where the primary

culprit lies. Likely in the next few years scientists will come up with the

brain chemical combination that is at the bottom of it all that causes a

dimunition of brain access (satiety signals) and an overreaction to

physiological impulses that feel exactly like hunger-- and I might add--that

appear in many to cause a form of mild panic and/or depression until the body

is sated with a certain amount, and sometimes also type, of food.

It is being studied as we speak. One of the greatest hurdles in science has

been to leave moralistic ideas out of the equation and just look at the

science of hungr satiation in humans. Interestingly enough, in other areas

where moral ideas ought be considered, they are sometimes not: hence the idea

for generations that the cervix had no feeling (despite many women's saying

the opposite,) that infants could be operated on without anesthesia becuase

they did not have a developed neural system and therefore felt no pain. Just

as an aside and not to start anything on list, but there is no science in the

idea that " cold blooded " creatues feel less than warm blooded ones. As this

has been studied since the 1980s it has been found that the signal of pain

may take longer to reach the brain in some animals, and that there reactions

to pain may be delayed by seconds and by minutes even....but that all animals

register both pain and display fear. To see, you have to look.

love,

ceep

In a message dated 1/8/03 2:30:18 AM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< How to do it right But, to simplify, the message from

your stomach to your brain is not reaching. Your brain telling you to eat is

almost as strong as your brain telling you to breathe.

Depression, in some people, has the same mechanism of messages or chemicals

not being received. I don't know if humans can ever have enough will power

to overcome the brains survival demands. Sorry, but for now, we have to do

the best we can and hunger is a daily part of our lives no matter what we

eat.

Maybe some of our learned friends can put this into a better wording.

Fay Bayuk>>

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In a message dated 1/8/2003 3:52:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kateseidel@... writes:

> so I'd say it was the psychology of hunger satiation, not the mechanics and

> science.

>

>

We will find the truth years from now. But, unless there is a treatment, we

are stuck. Do you know anyone who has overcome this through therapy and

stayed with it for many years. My shrink said the profession has failed.

But if you have proof that it is psychological and something I can use and

not be a failure, let me know.

But, I have a fool proof way of making money on the stock market. Buy low

sell high.

Fay Bayuk