Get off the pot or...!

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In a message dated 1/6/03 3:29:06 PM Central Standard Time,

ladybostons@... writes:

<< was thinking I would swallow the marble, it would get stuck in my

stoma and I'd have to get scoped! Hee hee! Wonder what we can come up

with that's less life-threatening and more tooth-friendly! LOL!

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My surgeon has a gum fetish! He asks up front if you chew gum, if you

say yes he sends you to have some behavior modification classes. He says

he HATES having to fish out gum that has gotten stuck in the stoma. >>

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Used to be a big-time gum chewer (sugarless, of course). My dentist even

credited that with keeping cavities away. No more, though. Gets those juices

flowing, expecting some FOOD to be comin' down along with all the saliva

generated, and makes for one very hungry pouch.

Carol A

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In a message dated 1/7/2003 1:34:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kabachelor@... writes:

> Today is a bit better. I've put better choices at my disposal... and I

> started out the day with beef jerky. I feel full... but I notice the need

> to chew is a way of dissipating anxiety, and that is what has been driving

> me back to my grazing habits.

>

My shrink once told me (many years ago) that depression is anger turned

inward and when I chose the cruchy foods it is a way of getting anger out. I

was told that when I was out for a walk or on my treadmill, I should express

the nasty, angry thoughts that I have been swallowing.

Thanks for your post.

Fay Bayuk

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Dear Keltie,

Are you drinking any protein shakes.. if not, adding one during your

working hours could help curb the cravings and hunger you are experiencing,

and help to get you back on track..

I have been struggling lately too.. but, I know that my carb and sugar

cravings are my body/s way of telling me to get back to doing protein, which

I am drinking my first ps100 chocolate shake as I read email this morning..

Take care and good luck to you.

Hugs,

from GA

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> Marbles are made of metal now? In my day, they were glass or

> agate........maybe those would have the same effect on the enamel; don't

> really know.

its the banging around in the mouth of any hard surface that wears on the

teeth, metal, glass, whatever. I don't have a tongue piercing but some of

my staff who do tell me this stuff. several had to remove the piercing by

their dentist orders. there are rubber type studs that are safe. the point

is - IMO - putting a marble in the mouth as a behavior mod. technique is not

safe.

sue

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I'd rather bang stuff on my teeth than bang stuff straight to my

butt! I imagine you would have to be one strung out, anxiety ridden

nut case to have that marble in your mouth enough to wear down the

enamel!!! Anyway, just having it in your pocket and lovingly

fondling it might works as well! It's all about distraction from the

compulsion, focus on the goal. You could use a rabbit's foot. Just

don't put it in your mouth and suck it!

Vicki A.

Vicki A.

>

> > Marbles are made of metal now? In my day, they were glass or

> > agate........maybe those would have the same effect on the

enamel; don't

> > really know.

>

> its the banging around in the mouth of any hard surface that wears

on the

> teeth, metal, glass, whatever. I don't have a tongue piercing but

some of

> my staff who do tell me this stuff. several had to remove the

piercing by

> their dentist orders. there are rubber type studs that are safe.

the point

> is - IMO - putting a marble in the mouth as a behavior mod.

technique is not

> safe.

> sue

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>>I imagine you would have to be one strung out, anxiety ridden

nut case to have that marble in your mouth enough to wear down the

enamel!!!<<

Pretty much describes me 5/7 days of the week!!

> >

> > > Marbles are made of metal now? In my day, they were glass or

> > > agate........maybe those would have the same effect on the

> enamel; don't

> > > really know.

> >

> > its the banging around in the mouth of any hard surface that

wears

> on the

> > teeth, metal, glass, whatever. I don't have a tongue piercing

but

> some of

> > my staff who do tell me this stuff. several had to remove the

> piercing by

> > their dentist orders. there are rubber type studs that are

safe.

> the point

> > is - IMO - putting a marble in the mouth as a behavior mod.

> technique is not

> > safe.

> > sue

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Hi Keltie:

After several yearsI have come to believe that prevention works better than

anything. I know that doesn't help much when you're already into bad habits.

What helps me the most is to always take my vitamins and drink my water. When I

am particularly hungry I take extra protein first and food second.

If you increase your protein in general (not just as an emergency measure), you

will probably find you have fewer problems with hunger (I take 120 to 180 per

day).

I have decided to quit beating myself up when I overeat, and instead simply do a

mental inventory to make sure that I am getting enough protein and vitamins,

getting enough sleep, getting enough excercise, etc. This has, in nearly every

case proven to be the problem, and when it is corrected, I just naturally get

back on track in a fairly short time (that is if I correct the things I am

lagging on). This eliminates a lot of guilt. I agree that under stress things

get harder for us, but I still think it's better to do an inventory before we

start analyzing ourselves. In my opinion, most of our eating problems are more

physical than emotional.

The number 1 thing that gets me off track is sugar. Complex carbohydrates don't

give me problems. Even too much fruit can mess up the sugar/insulin balance and

of course milk, even if you are not lactose intolerant usually affects your body

just like sugar (as VitaLady says, " Milk is a four-letter word for candy. "

My theory about overeating (actually for me personally this is more than just a

theory) is that when we overeat, or eat the wrong things, it is either because

of sugar or because we are undernourished and our bodys are frantically looking

for what it is missing. We will just keep eating and eating, hoping to find the

right thing.

Good luck, and don't beat yourself up.

Barbara

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Funny what you say about being under nourished. I think that it is

Craig who always says that " most obese people are

malnourished " . At least I think it was that diet that I was on. I

have found that is true in many cases talking with people and

working with obese patients. I just never thought that it could be

me.

> Hi Keltie:

>

> After several yearsI have come to believe that prevention works

better than anything. I know that doesn't help much when you're

already into bad habits. What helps me the most is to always take

my vitamins and drink my water. When I am particularly hungry I

take extra protein first and food second.

>

> If you increase your protein in general (not just as an emergency

measure), you will probably find you have fewer problems with hunger

(I take 120 to 180 per day).

>

> I have decided to quit beating myself up when I overeat, and

instead simply do a mental inventory to make sure that I am getting

enough protein and vitamins, getting enough sleep, getting enough

excercise, etc. This has, in nearly every case proven to be the

problem, and when it is corrected, I just naturally get back on

track in a fairly short time (that is if I correct the things I am

lagging on). This eliminates a lot of guilt. I agree that under

stress things get harder for us, but I still think it's better to do

an inventory before we start analyzing ourselves. In my opinion,

most of our eating problems are more physical than emotional.

>

> The number 1 thing that gets me off track is sugar. Complex

carbohydrates don't give me problems. Even too much fruit can mess

up the sugar/insulin balance and of course milk, even if you are not

lactose intolerant usually affects your body just like sugar (as

VitaLady says, " Milk is a four-letter word for candy. "

>

> My theory about overeating (actually for me personally this is

more than just a theory) is that when we overeat, or eat the wrong

things, it is either because of sugar or because we are

undernourished and our bodys are frantically looking for what it is

missing. We will just keep eating and eating, hoping to find the

right thing.

>

> Good luck, and don't beat yourself up.

>

> Barbara

>

>

>

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In a message dated 1/11/2003 9:06:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

nanpug@... writes:

<< Speaking of this.......I CRAVE Mushrooms......what could it be in that

(besides the YUMMY taste,) that I am wanting or missing?? I thought I read

somewhere it was selenium!! >>

I've been eating lots of mushrooms lately too. I think its cause they taste

so " meaty " to me, yet without the terrible discomfort that meat causes me

after a single bite. I think they have a fair amount of iron in them as

well. Portobella mushrooms sauteed in a little butter and topped with

monterey jack cheese is as close to heaven as I'll probably ever get.

B

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we are undernourished and our bodys are frantically looking for what it is

missing. We will just keep eating and eating, hoping to find the right

thing.

Speaking of this.......I CRAVE Mushrooms......what could it be in that

(besides the YUMMY taste,) that I am wanting or missing?? I thought I read

somewhere it was selenium!! P.

Re: Get off the pot or...!

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In a message dated 1/11/03 8:06:22 AM Central Standard Time, nanpug@...

writes:

<< I thought I read somewhere it was selenium!! P. >>

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So take some selenium for a couple months and see if the craving disappears.

It's cheap, readily found in most stores, and does all kinds of good things

for you. Preferred form is selenomethionine (per J. Jacques, R.D.)

Carol A