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In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:14:56 AM Central Standard Time,

leslieeileen31@... writes:

For Crystal,, and Cori(hers is today) I want to wish

you all the best of luck and a speedy recovery. I will be waiting on

ya'll on the losing side so we can go thru this together, and

compare notes...we will have alot to talk about now....lol

See you soon....

Take care

,

You are right on course with 99.99% of us. I was very nervous up until

the day of surgery. If you weren't you would be abnormal, lol. You will do

fine. Just put it all in God's hands and know that he will be directing the

hands

of your surgeon. You will do just fine and we will be waiting for you to post

your first post as a " LOSER " . You will be in our thoughts and prayers. God

Bless and Skinny Wishes!

Wolfie

Leeds, Alabama

" Keep It Real & Off the Top "

Lap Rny & Choly

Dr. Lee Schmitt

Medical Center East

August 27,2003

336/276/200

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In a message dated 12/18/2003 12:58:57 PM Central Standard Time,

jclinton@... writes:

Yeah Wolfie!! Well said.

Joan

There are so many good doctors and then you have these that you just want to

pack em all up and send em all out, lol. At least thats what I would love to

do anyway.

Wolfie

Leeds, Alabama

" Keep It Real & Off the Top "

Lap Rny & Choly

Dr. Lee Schmitt

Medical Center East

August 27,2003

349Pre-Op/336/268/200

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Hello!

Here in South Florida most the Dr's charge a " program fee "

Which covers Group Support meetings, Nutrtion counseling, exercise consults.

My Doctor charges $700 for the " program fee " .. however.. since I live an hour

away and have a

young child.. the Exercise consults and routines are out of the question. I

belong to a Gym around the corner.

So.. I had a reduced fee of $400.

My Doctor has a small practice compared to the " centers " .

The average cost for the " program fee " is about $2,600 around these here parts.

ONe of the criteria for my insurance company to cover the surgery was that there

had to be an " After Care Program "

in place.... but they don't cover the " after care " as in Group Support..

Nutrtion and Exercise counseling.

Now... IF your Surgeon is a Network provider.. he is bound by the contract he

signed with the Insurance provider.

That means he or she cannot charge you a " paper work " fee. It is thier job to

fax the paper work to the insurance provider.

It is thier job to keep records of your appts.

That also means that they cannot charge you a " final consult fee " as well. All

consults are part of a Global Surgery Fee.

He or she must bill the insurance company directly.

Too many Dr's are getting away with price gouging patients.. because the

patients are not aware of thier rights.

Such practices should be reported to your insurance carrier.. as well as the

STate Medical Board.

The " after care programs " they can get away with.. as most insurance companies

don't cover..

However.. you can submit the claims yourself to the insurance company hoping to

get some sort of reimbursement.

K - Ft Lauderdale, Fl

Mommy to Noah 10/14/02

Post Op - Open RNY 12/2/03

257/237/115 ( I am short.. 5' )

20 lbs gone forever!!!!

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In a message dated 12/18/2003 8:33:16 AM Central Standard Time,

stewarts3x@... writes:

Anyone here from Dallas/FortWorth area? Anyone heard of Dr. ph

Cribbins or a Dr. Hamn. Also considered a Dr.

Daryl out of Denton but he wanted to charge us 250.00 paperwork

fee and then another 750.00 at final consult for seminar and other books

and stuff they give you above what our insurance pays.. Our insurance

pays 100% so I feel those charges should be included in the fee charged

to the insurance. Anyone else get charged like that when their insurance

pays 100%? Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Andra

that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Doctors make

their money and to charge for a seminar is utterly insane. We have doctors at

every monthly seminar and they also take it upon themselves to attend our

special meetings where we have other guest speakers. Sounds like someone is

gouging

(SP) the system. Thats the problem with these money hungry doctors now, they

forget about the patient and go straight for their own bank accounts. That

just infuriates me. Alot of us find it hard to have to come up with the extra

money over what the insurance doesn't pay let alone pay for something that

shouldn't even be a charge for. You can separate the doctors that care from

the ones

waving their bank account books everytime! Sheesh I wouldn't give you a plug

nickel for the whole lot of that particular kind of doctor. I hope you find a

better more caring type of WLS doctor...God Bless

Wolfie

Leeds, Alabama

" Keep It Real & Off the Top "

Lap Rny & Choly

Dr. Lee Schmitt

Medical Center East

August 27,2003

349Pre-Op/336/268/200

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Yeah Wolfie!! Well said.

Joan

LAP RNY 11/18/03

Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA

282pre-op/275surg/245/140

that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Doctors

make

their money and to charge for a seminar is utterly insane. We have doctors

at

every monthly seminar and they also take it upon themselves to attend our

special meetings where we have other guest speakers. Sounds like someone

is gouging

(SP) the system. Thats the problem with these money hungry doctors now,

they

forget about the patient and go straight for their own bank accounts. That

just infuriates me. Alot of us find it hard to have to come up with the

extra

money over what the insurance doesn't pay let alone pay for something that

shouldn't even be a charge for. You can separate the doctors that care

from the ones

waving their bank account books everytime! Sheesh I wouldn't give you a

plug

nickel for the whole lot of that particular kind of doctor. I hope you

find a

better more caring type of WLS doctor...God Bless

Wolfie

Leeds, Alabama

" Keep It Real & Off the Top "

Lap Rny & Choly

Dr. Lee Schmitt

Medical Center East

August 27,2003

349Pre-Op/336/268/200

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