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Going no mail as of tonight, Going to be switched tomorow at 1:00 pm at Mt. Sinai with Dr Gagner.

Alice

Best wishes to you Alice.

Kathy B

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alice: congrats! may your surgery be uneventful and recovery rapid.

hugs,

mary y st. louis

itchin to be switchin

> Going no mail as of tonight, Going to be switched tomorow at 1:00

pm at Mt.

> Sinai with Dr Gagner.

> Alice

> MOMMYoMANY

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Ditto Alice, best wishes for a flawless switch and

smooth recovery. Angel

--- VANILLAFUDGE77@... wrote:

> good luck

>

Alice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

=====

Angel Connor

DS Pre-Op

Dr Maguire

Surgery date (pending approval)

Oct 29th

BMI 64

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Alice,

Good luck, we'll be swinging chickens for you!!

Anita

Pre-pre-op in Denver

> In a message dated 5/23/2001 9:59:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> MOMMYoMANY@a... writes:

>

>

> > Going no mail as of tonight, Going to be switched tomorow at 1:00 pm at

> > Mt.

> > Sinai with Dr Gagner.

> > Alice

> >

>

> Best wishes to you Alice.

> Kathy B

> Dr. Elariny

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Congrats, Alice. May your switch go flawlessly and you return as a switched sister with your own version of life on the "other side."

in SeattleDS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 3/5/01 230# BMI 37.1Dr Welker - OHSU

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Good luck Alice, you are in great hands. I will be saying those prayers I promised you.

Patti

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Going no mail as of tonight, Going to be switched tomorow at 1:00 pm at Mt. Sinai with Dr Gagner. Alice Best wishes to you Alice. Kathy B Dr. Elariny ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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> Going no mail as of tonight, Going to be switched tomorow at 1:00

pm at Mt.

> Sinai with Dr Gagner.

> Alice

> MOMMYoMANY

Will keep you in my prayers, light a smudge stick, swing a chicken...

See you on the switched side, hun.

Hugs,

Liane

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Rabecca, You have been one of the most supportive and loving people

on this list. I am SO SO sad to see you go, PLEASE reconsider. I am

a little over 3 weeks away myself, and anxious. What a time for all

this to happen. Anyway, please keep in touch with me, I will be

thinking of you...

Meli

BMI 47

Dr. Hess

June 21,01

Summer Solstice

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Mh " wrote:

> Hi there you lucky people...

>

> I am going no mail on this group until after my surgery, and then

will

> re-evaluate my role here... Like many, I send most of my responses

> privately, for they are full of support directed towards others who

posted

> publicly. I have taken time to answer questions, to listen, to

encourage,

> and to congratulate... That has been the purpose of this list for

longer

> than I have been a member, and that has been for more than a

year... Lately

> though, it seems people are putting their own needs and feelings

above those

> of others that are here for support. It has become a battle ground,

one

> fraught with accusations, emotions, and abuses. I have refused to

become

> involved in it... for this IS JUST A BOARD folks... It is made up

of no more

> than simple letters and words... But it was created as a place to

come and

> share ideas, to support one another... to discuss where we are and

where we

> want to be... It is a place of hopes, fears, and dreams... This

should be a

> very positive thing... But when it begins to affect your personal

life in a

> negative manner, it is time to re-evaluate... Is this board serving

it's

> intended purpose? I believe that for many ,it still is... and I

believe

> that it has been and still can be a valuable resource to those

looking for

> information and support...

>

> I won't tell those who have emotional issues to go somewhere else

or to

> receive professional help... Perhaps they have tried and it didn't

work for

> them... I won't tell those who have wrapped themselves so tightly

into their

> own decisions that they can not see the rightness of the decisions

of others

> that they might just be missing the point of freedom of choice,

because

> obviously they can't see that... I won't tell people they are wrong

to

> support one who needs the support, even if the way they go about it

is

> counterproductive and may hurt her more than help... That is their

decision

> and they are doing what they believe is right... But that does not

mean that

> I will allow these issues to become a daily part of my life

either...

>

> I am 2 1/2 weeks from surgery... I have waited for an entire year

while my

> family has scrimped and saved to make this dream a reality. I am

traveling

> half way around the world to change my life forever... and I need

support...

> I know that I can get that support other places... I also know that

I can

> also give support in other places... I have chosen to stay up to

this point

> because when I was newly considering DS, I was desperate for more

> information... Then I found this list... and was welcomed with open

arms...

> I was never put down or told that my thoughts/feelings were wrong or

> silly... I was accepted for who I was unconditionally (even by

those who

> didn't always agree with me!)... Some wonderful postops gave me a

very

> special gift a feeling of self worth... Through their belief in me,

I

> learned to believe in myself... and I made a decision that changed

my life

> forever... I am not the same person I was a year ago... I am one who

> deserves respect and to be treated fairly... I am strong... I am

happy...

> and I have a future...

>

> Because of these special people, I have tried to stay and to do the

same for

> those who come after me... As my turn approaches, I find reading

this list

> harder and harder to read... There is just so much dysfunction

right now...

> I realize this is the norm in some people's lives, but it throws

mine

> totally off balance... After reading several negative, grating

posts in a

> row, I end up deleting the rest of the digest without reading it...

I just

> can't take the harshness and bickering that seems so common-place

now... I

> long for the acceptance that was so prevalent in the past... That

means

> that those who come needing support may not get it because of my

inability

> to sort through all those in-between to get to their posts... I

have found

> that it is just taking too much more energy/emotional reserves than

I have

> to spare to keep up with this list...

>

> Anyway, perhaps when I am postop, I can come back without

> feeling/internalizing all the emotions running wild here... I will

post my

> progress, even after going no mail, because I know how important

that

> information is to preops... I will also answer any mail sent to me

privately

> in reply to the posts I make or for any questions that people may

have... I

> just won't be here in person right now to read them...

>

> Take care and good luck!!!

> ~hugs to all~

> Rabecca, Portland OR

> To Be Switched by Dr Baltasar, Spain

> On June 15, 2001

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I wish you all the best in life and from your surgery

- I am a newbie here.

Betsy

--- Mh Mh@...> wrote:

> Hi there you lucky people...

>

> I am going no mail on this group until after my

> surgery, and then will

> re-evaluate my role here... Like many, I send most

> of my responses

> privately, for they are full of support directed

> towards others who posted

> publicly. I have taken time to answer questions, to

> listen, to encourage,

> and to congratulate... That has been the purpose of

> this list for longer

> than I have been a member, and that has been for

> more than a year... Lately

> though, it seems people are putting their own needs

> and feelings above those

> of others that are here for support. It has become a

> battle ground, one

> fraught with accusations, emotions, and abuses. I

> have refused to become

> involved in it... for this IS JUST A BOARD folks...

> It is made up of no more

> than simple letters and words... But it was created

> as a place to come and

> share ideas, to support one another... to discuss

> where we are and where we

> want to be... It is a place of hopes, fears, and

> dreams... This should be a

> very positive thing... But when it begins to affect

> your personal life in a

> negative manner, it is time to re-evaluate... Is

> this board serving it's

> intended purpose? I believe that for many ,it still

> is... and I believe

> that it has been and still can be a valuable

> resource to those looking for

> information and support...

>

> I won't tell those who have emotional issues to go

> somewhere else or to

> receive professional help... Perhaps they have tried

> and it didn't work for

> them... I won't tell those who have wrapped

> themselves so tightly into their

> own decisions that they can not see the rightness of

> the decisions of others

> that they might just be missing the point of freedom

> of choice, because

> obviously they can't see that... I won't tell people

> they are wrong to

> support one who needs the support, even if the way

> they go about it is

> counterproductive and may hurt her more than help...

> That is their decision

> and they are doing what they believe is right... But

> that does not mean that

> I will allow these issues to become a daily part of

> my life either...

>

> I am 2 1/2 weeks from surgery... I have waited for

> an entire year while my

> family has scrimped and saved to make this dream a

> reality. I am traveling

> half way around the world to change my life

> forever... and I need support...

> I know that I can get that support other places... I

> also know that I can

> also give support in other places... I have chosen

> to stay up to this point

> because when I was newly considering DS, I was

> desperate for more

> information... Then I found this list... and was

> welcomed with open arms...

> I was never put down or told that my

> thoughts/feelings were wrong or

> silly... I was accepted for who I was

> unconditionally (even by those who

> didn't always agree with me!)... Some wonderful

> postops gave me a very

> special gift a feeling of self worth... Through

> their belief in me, I

> learned to believe in myself... and I made a

> decision that changed my life

> forever... I am not the same person I was a year

> ago... I am one who

> deserves respect and to be treated fairly... I am

> strong... I am happy...

> and I have a future...

>

> Because of these special people, I have tried to

> stay and to do the same for

> those who come after me... As my turn approaches, I

> find reading this list

> harder and harder to read... There is just so much

> dysfunction right now...

> I realize this is the norm in some people's lives,

> but it throws mine

> totally off balance... After reading several

> negative, grating posts in a

> row, I end up deleting the rest of the digest

> without reading it... I just

> can't take the harshness and bickering that seems

> so common-place now... I

> long for the acceptance that was so prevalent in

> the past... That means

> that those who come needing support may not get it

> because of my inability

> to sort through all those in-between to get to their

> posts... I have found

> that it is just taking too much more

> energy/emotional reserves than I have

> to spare to keep up with this list...

>

> Anyway, perhaps when I am postop, I can come back

> without

> feeling/internalizing all the emotions running wild

> here... I will post my

> progress, even after going no mail, because I know

> how important that

> information is to preops... I will also answer any

> mail sent to me privately

> in reply to the posts I make or for any questions

> that people may have... I

> just won't be here in person right now to read

> them...

>

> Take care and good luck!!!

> ~hugs to all~

> Rabecca, Portland OR

> To Be Switched by Dr Baltasar, Spain

> On June 15, 2001

>

>

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Rabecca, you will be dearly missed! I only came on board about a month or so ago. Thank you for all you encouragement and support! I truly admire you for not letting go your goal and you saved and saved and now you are on your way to Spain! I too wish you all the best! Hope you return! Cuz we'd all love to know your progress! a BMI36 pre-op Going no mail Hi there you lucky people...I am going no mail on this group until after my surgery, and then willre-evaluate my role here... Like many, I send most of my responsesprivately, for they are full of support directed towards others who postedpublicly. I have taken time to answer questions, to listen, to encourage,and to congratulate... That has been the purpose of this list for longerthan I have been a member, and that has been for more than a year... Latelythough, it seems people are putting their own needs and feelings above thoseof others that are here for support. It has become a battle ground, onefraught with accusations, emotions, and abuses. I have refused to becomeinvolved in it... for this IS JUST A BOARD folks... It is made up of no morethan simple letters and words... But it was created as a place to come andshare ideas, to support one another... to discuss where we are and where wewant to be... It is a place of hopes, fears, and dreams... This should be avery positive thing... But when it begins to affect your personal life in anegative manner, it is time to re-evaluate... Is this board serving it'sintended purpose? I believe that for many ,it still is... and I believethat it has been and still can be a valuable resource to those looking forinformation and support...I won't tell those who have emotional issues to go somewhere else or toreceive professional help... Perhaps they have tried and it didn't work forthem... I won't tell those who have wrapped themselves so tightly into theirown decisions that they can not see the rightness of the decisions of othersthat they might just be missing the point of freedom of choice, becauseobviously they can't see that... I won't tell people they are wrong tosupport one who needs the support, even if the way they go about it iscounterproductive and may hurt her more than help... That is their decisionand they are doing what they believe is right... But that does not mean thatI will allow these issues to become a daily part of my life either...I am 2 1/2 weeks from surgery... I have waited for an entire year while myfamily has scrimped and saved to make this dream a reality. I am travelinghalf way around the world to change my life forever... and I need support...I know that I can get that support other places... I also know that I canalso give support in other places... I have chosen to stay up to this pointbecause when I was newly considering DS, I was desperate for moreinformation... Then I found this list... and was welcomed with open arms...I was never put down or told that my thoughts/feelings were wrong orsilly... I was accepted for who I was unconditionally (even by those whodidn't always agree with me!)... Some wonderful postops gave me a veryspecial gift a feeling of self worth... Through their belief in me, Ilearned to believe in myself... and I made a decision that changed my lifeforever... I am not the same person I was a year ago... I am one whodeserves respect and to be treated fairly... I am strong... I am happy...and I have a future...Because of these special people, I have tried to stay and to do the same forthose who come after me... As my turn approaches, I find reading this listharder and harder to read... There is just so much dysfunction right now...I realize this is the norm in some people's lives, but it throws minetotally off balance... After reading several negative, grating posts in arow, I end up deleting the rest of the digest without reading it... I justcan't take the harshness and bickering that seems so common-place now... Ilong for the acceptance that was so prevalent in the past... That meansthat those who come needing support may not get it because of my inabilityto sort through all those in-between to get to their posts... I have foundthat it is just taking too much more energy/emotional reserves than I haveto spare to keep up with this list...Anyway, perhaps when I am postop, I can come back withoutfeeling/internalizing all the emotions running wild here... I will post myprogress, even after going no mail, because I know how important thatinformation is to preops... I will also answer any mail sent to me privatelyin reply to the posts I make or for any questions that people may have... Ijust won't be here in person right now to read them...Take care and good luck!!!~hugs to all~Rabecca, Portland ORTo Be Switched by Dr Baltasar, SpainOn June 15, 2001----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hi, I wonder if Im not getting mail. I havent read the mail that includes bickering. I read lots of funny silly things and it makes me laugh. I think its great that so many of us can have a sense of humor while we have suffered the battles of wl and wls. Im at the start of my journey and i still am so dumb to it all. i guess it takes time to absorb and make our what choice is right for each one of us. god bless you,

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Wow, , you must not be getting all the mail! Wouldn't it be great

if Yahoo could have an option that allowed one to get all but bickering

emails? Hmmm....

Lori B.

3-16-01

down about 58 lbs.

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I wonder if Im not signed up for all mail. I will have to wait till my son gets home from his vacation to check it for me. I sent some mail and had no return answer so mabey its me. see you,

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mary,

if you are having your surgery, pls let me know. i'd

would like to meet you and visit you in the hospital!

jo ann/ocean springs

pre-op dr booth

--- mary wrote:

> i am leaving early tomorrow morning at 5 to head on

> down to MS. so

> just wanted to post once more to say thanks for the

> warm wishes and

> prayers sent my way. i will be back around the 27th

> and will post

> again then. see you on the other side!

>

> hugs,

>

> mary y st.louis

> my itch to switch is getting scratched

>

>

>

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>

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Is it really a matter of supporting the war or supporting the troops that

have no choice but to go where their boss sends them? I also wonder

about the families that may also need the support right now. Many people

on this site may have family members being deployed and may need a

sounding board. If I can't be there for them now how can I possibly

expect them to be there for me when I need them? Just a thought.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:24:17 -0800 " Ziobro "

writes:

> I know many of you have family members in Iraq but I for one am

> offended by the extreme and OT patriotism on this list and need to

> go no mail for a while. I do not support the undeclared war in

> Iraq.

>

> Ziobro

> Open RNY 09/17/01

> 310/130

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=M987208445

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Is it really a matter of supporting the war or supporting the troops that

have no choice but to go where their boss sends them? I also wonder

about the families that may also need the support right now. Many people

on this site may have family members being deployed and may need a

sounding board. If I can't be there for them now how can I possibly

expect them to be there for me when I need them? Just a thought.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:24:17 -0800 " Ziobro "

writes:

> I know many of you have family members in Iraq but I for one am

> offended by the extreme and OT patriotism on this list and need to

> go no mail for a while. I do not support the undeclared war in

> Iraq.

>

> Ziobro

> Open RNY 09/17/01

> 310/130

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=M987208445

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Wow. Unbelievable. I am taken aback by the " Going No Mail " message.

All I can say is, THANK YOU, Lori Owen, for your quick and thoughtful

response. I am stunned.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/24/03 6:39:26 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:31:56 -0600

From: loriowen@...

Subject: Re: Going no mail

Is it really a matter of supporting the war or supporting the troops that

have no choice but to go where their boss sends them? I also wonder

about the families that may also need the support right now. Many people

on this site may have family members being deployed and may need a

sounding board. If I can't be there for them now how can I possibly

expect them to be there for me when I need them? Just a thought.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas >>

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Wow. Unbelievable. I am taken aback by the " Going No Mail " message.

All I can say is, THANK YOU, Lori Owen, for your quick and thoughtful

response. I am stunned.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/24/03 6:39:26 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:31:56 -0600

From: loriowen@...

Subject: Re: Going no mail

Is it really a matter of supporting the war or supporting the troops that

have no choice but to go where their boss sends them? I also wonder

about the families that may also need the support right now. Many people

on this site may have family members being deployed and may need a

sounding board. If I can't be there for them now how can I possibly

expect them to be there for me when I need them? Just a thought.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas >>

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You don't have to support the war to support our troops...simple as

that.

in NJ

*******************

> I know many of you have family members in Iraq but I for one am

offended by the extreme and OT patriotism on this list and need to go

no mail for a while. I do not support the undeclared war in Iraq.

>

> Ziobro

> Open RNY 09/17/01

> 310/130

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=M987208445

>

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You don't have to support the war to support our troops...simple as

that.

in NJ

*******************

> I know many of you have family members in Iraq but I for one am

offended by the extreme and OT patriotism on this list and need to go

no mail for a while. I do not support the undeclared war in Iraq.

>

> Ziobro

> Open RNY 09/17/01

> 310/130

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=M987208445

>

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With all due respect to you and the members who have families fighting in

the war, a weight-loss surgery board can't possibly provide the needed

support in such a difficult time. Support can occur in private emails and

off the board.

I would like us to stay as on topic as practical and possible, and at the

very, very least, put " OT " clearly in the subject line when something is not

related to our surgeries.

Respectfully,

in Austin

RNY April 1998

Re: Going no mail

> Is it really a matter of supporting the war or supporting the troops that

> have no choice but to go where their boss sends them? I also wonder

> about the families that may also need the support right now. Many people

> on this site may have family members being deployed and may need a

> sounding board. If I can't be there for them now how can I possibly

> expect them to be there for me when I need them? Just a thought.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:24:17 -0800 " Ziobro "

> writes:

> > I know many of you have family members in Iraq but I for one am

> > offended by the extreme and OT patriotism on this list and need to

> > go no mail for a while. I do not support the undeclared war in

> > Iraq.

> >

> > Ziobro

> > Open RNY 09/17/01

> > 310/130

> > http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=M987208445

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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With all due respect to you and the members who have families fighting in

the war, a weight-loss surgery board can't possibly provide the needed

support in such a difficult time. Support can occur in private emails and

off the board.

I would like us to stay as on topic as practical and possible, and at the

very, very least, put " OT " clearly in the subject line when something is not

related to our surgeries.

Respectfully,

in Austin

RNY April 1998

Re: Going no mail

> Is it really a matter of supporting the war or supporting the troops that

> have no choice but to go where their boss sends them? I also wonder

> about the families that may also need the support right now. Many people

> on this site may have family members being deployed and may need a

> sounding board. If I can't be there for them now how can I possibly

> expect them to be there for me when I need them? Just a thought.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:24:17 -0800 " Ziobro "

> writes:

> > I know many of you have family members in Iraq but I for one am

> > offended by the extreme and OT patriotism on this list and need to

> > go no mail for a while. I do not support the undeclared war in

> > Iraq.

> >

> > Ziobro

> > Open RNY 09/17/01

> > 310/130

> > http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=M987208445

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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