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I have been in car accidents, I've been threatened (I'm an attorney

who specializes in the area of domestic violence), and I've had a

gun held to my head by a 12 year old during a robbery. In all cases

I know there are resources to help me either prevent these things or

teach me how to act appropriately if something like this happens,

such as self-defense classes. And so be it with wls. We need to know

all of the possibilities and the steps we can take to prevent bad

things from happening. And even with all the prevention in the

world, bad things may still happen...it may have been the Iowa

woman's " time to pass " . Whenever people die in car accidents,

airplane crashes, or because of a criminal event, we don't stop

driving, flying or living. Instead we try to learn as much as we

can, and forge ahead.

W.

> I don't think we should feel like we are going to be reprimanded

for showing

> both sides of the story. Yes this surgery is life saving but it

also can have

> it's risks.Sometimes I feel like the wls world does not want to

hear what

> actually can happen to some people. I mean I had surgery three

weeks ago

> and yes I 'am happy I did it, but I know what can happen to me if

I don't do

> what is expected. I feel that as adults we should be able to

express ourselves

> and not feel like the wls world will jump all over us.

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In a message dated 10/16/2003 2:02:19 AM Central Standard Time,

faythe74@... writes:

I don't think we should feel like we are going to be reprimanded for showing

both sides of the story. Yes this surgery is life saving but it also can have

it's risks.Sometimes I feel like the wls world does not want to hear what

actually can happen to some people. I mean I had surgery three weeks ago

and yes I 'am happy I did it, but I know what can happen to me if I don't do

what is expected. I feel that as adults we should be able to express ourselves

and not feel like the wls world will jump all over us.

Hear! Hear! I applaud your honesty! We should , as adults, always be able to

express all aspects of this surgery. Without each other and the reinforcement

of the knowledge that each of us holds how would we be able to learn as much

as we can or do?

Wolfie

Leeds, Alabama

Lap RNY

August 27,2003

Dr. Lee A. Schmitt, M.D.

Medical Center East

Beginning Weight: 336

" Keep Em Laughing! "

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Dear Hester,

I agree with you completely. When someone asks about the surgery, we should

be able to post all sides of the picture without fear. I was very studious

when learning about this surgery and I wanted to know what could possibly

happen to me. I didn't want anything swept under the rug. I wanted the

full picture so I could make an educated decision and see if I could live

this lifestyle (obviously I decided that I could).

When I saw a response to the posting you mention that said " 1 in a million

die from this surgery " I have to admit I got quite peeved at the individual

who wrote it. Let's be real here. This surgery is not for everyone. It's

not even for everyone who needs it. And the statistics are clear. One in

200 die from complications of this surgery. Yes, I understand that I can

die from any type of surgery I undergo. That is not the issue. To gloss

over real statistics to state, in essence, that this is the greatest thing

since sliced bread (that's the attitude I picked up from the post I'm

referring to, not what was actually said) is doing a great disservice to the

original poster of the topic as well as to anyone else who seriously wanted

that topic addressed.

Let's try to remember what we felt like the first week following surgery

(those of us who felt like this), when the pain was present, the exhaustion

was ever present and the regret at what I had done to my body set in. It

was not an easy time to pass through and none of this should be forgotten or

glossed over once we pass that point and the memories fade. It is important

to present this surgery in its true light to anyone who is asking so that

they can continue to do their research and make a rational decision as to

how they will live the rest of their lives. Complications do happen.

Thankfully the rate of complications is much, much lower than the success

rate, but we should not act as if they don't exist and we should certainly

not act as if death is a minor thing that happens one time in a million.

It's simply not true.

**climbing down off my soapbox now**

live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...

Deb in Hazlet, NJ

" Debbie Dancer "

distal rny

September 3, 2002

386/221/165

BMI 60/32.6/24

-165

-92.5 "

Angel to Bill, Debbie, Ilene, Roy, and Ro

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