Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Hi Debkroll and Wolfie How are you gals doing? Wolfie you and I had surgery around the same time I think mine was 8/25/03 and to date I am down to 247 pounds but my friends tell me they can really see my weight loss when I am wearing my clothes. I am down 2 bra sizes and about 3 dress sizes. I think I lose more inches than pounds LOL. I hardly enjoy eating anymore and just do it to live now. I did eat a small chocolate donut yesterday and was able to keep it down LOL. I seem to have no problems digesting sugar at all but I usually eat Splenda instead. I have even eaten a small slice of red velvet cake with cream cheese frosting and had no dumping issues. To date I have never dumped but I have thrown up things like chicken and turkey and mozzarella sticks. I try to chew my food about 50 times before I swallow but it is hard sometimes especially when you are with friends. I went to a friends party last Friday and ate some chicken and had to go to the bathroom and do the bulimic thing to toss my cookies up because that chicken was hurting me badly. So here I am a fat bulimic lol am I on the supermodel diet or what LOL. If I had to do it all over again I would just do it the normal way and force myself to work out and eat better but since that is all water under the bridge I have to deal with life as it comes. I really miss the comfort of food it has been a really good friend for so long but I am dealing with it. I am wearing clothes I have not fit in years and it is all nice but I would rather eat a nice big Philly cheese steak instead LOL to me that would be just as nice or better. I really miss eating sandwiches and bread I just can't eat them anymore. Pouch Pain hurts like heck so I will do anything to avoid it. Lori Anne Lap RNY 8/25/03 293 -- 274 day of surgery 247currently /130goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Lori Anne, Are you saying that you would not do it again? it sounds to me like you are saying that you regret having the surgery? Just curious PreOp 10-21-03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:47:05 AM Central Standard Time, summertodream1@... writes: Lori Anne, Are you saying that you would not do it again? it sounds to me like you are saying that you regret having the surgery? Just curious I thought the same thing. I loved food as well as anyone. It was my " DRUG " of choice. I found every reason in the world to eat. But there is nothing out there now that could replace this wonderful way I feel as far as my health is and my whole outlook about myself and the improvement of my life. Wolfie Leeds, Alabama Lap RNY August 27,2003 Dr. Lee A. Schmitt, M.D. Medical Center East Beginning Weight: 336 " Keep Em Laughing! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 In a message dated 10/16/2003 4:28:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Wolfeyes205@... writes: Are you saying that you would not do it again? it sounds to me like you are saying that you regret having the surgery? Just curious Hey there girl yup I said it I would have rather lost my weight by the normal protocols or not at all. I used to enjoy going out for dinner with friends and going on vacations and enjoying those little extra treats. Now I can hardly even enjoy a meal much less anything that I loved before surgery well except for juices. I can drink orange juice and any kind of juice all day. I can even eat products with a high sugar content with no problem. I am sick of this bulimic type program of my body expelling food that upsets it. I drink a protein shake sometimes when I can remember and I do take my vitamins. Don't get me wrong I have lost a lot of weight and everyone tells me I look great and I do love the way I am going down in size but the enjoyment of food is gone forever. I never had any health problems before surgery so the benefit of it is purely esthetic for me. I just miss eating a meal and not having to think the hell out of it before hand is all. As for the surgery even when I reach my goal weight and I know I will I will never advocate to anyone to get it done. The quality of my life has decreased just a bit with this surgery and I miss that bit that ease of living and I know it is gone forever. I will forever more have to be so careful of what I eat and I guess I deserve it after all I put myself in the weight class to have a need for surgery so now I suffer the consequences. Do it again no way . Lori Anne Lap RNY 8/25/03 274/247/135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Lori Ann, Lets us hear from you in a year from now or better than that 20 years from now when you don't have heart problems and diabetes. A. B. LAP RNY 3/22/03 Dr. Steve Weinstein, MD. Mobile, Alabama BMI 65/48 386/295- 91LBS. 59 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:27:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bosarge3@... writes: Lets us hear from you in a year from now or better than that 20 years from now when you don't have heart problems and diabetes. Hi A. B. I hear what you are saying but my family has these things anyway and if I am going to get them I believe that genetics will have it's ultimate role anyway no matter how much weight I lose. I have always been healthy and I hope that continues. I had the surgery to look better point blank to get back to the way I used to look not for health reasons at all I can at least be truthful to everyone. I did not do it to prevent illnesses because truth be told if you are going to get something you will and there is hardly anything other than eating right and getting a work out on to prevent it. I have encouragement from my family and friends so I am not depressed or discouraged I am just being truthful with my feelings regarding the surgery I had. Even when I am at goal weight I will regret taking such drastic measures to gain control of my own behaviors. I made my own choice to gain weight and my own choice of remedy to lose the weight and all the consequences are my own for better or worse till death do us part me and my pouch. Lori Anne Lap RNY 8/25/03 274/247/135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Lori Anne, Did you not realize all of this before you had the surgery? I mean i have done enough research to know that this is how my life is going to be from now on. i know i have to make different decisions and i have to watch everything i eat... Pre-Op LapRNY Surgery Date 10-21-03 Dr. K. Borhanian Rock Hill SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hi Lori Anne, You're about six weeks out, right? You're at the point you're getting all your energy back and want to do things but your diet is still somewhat restricted. I'm only three weeks ahead of you, but I'm going out with friends to restaurants, I just have to get creative! Appetizer menus are great, doggie bags are not just for dogs, and my brothers are always willings to help out with the food I can't/won't eat! I guess my point is that if you reevaluate your situation in a couple of weeks you might be surprised. If anyone had asked me if surgery was worth it when I was less than four weeks out I would have said NO because the fatigue was so overwhelming. Now I have the energy to work two jobs! Open RNY 8/7/03 316/262/150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 I'm sorry you feel that way. I too, tried many diets and lost the weight only to gain it back again. This surgery was my only option to get the weight off and KEEP it off. So far I have lost 65 pounds and I would gladly do it all over again. I am off my B/P medication and I just went to the DR to day and he says I am doing fine! I still go out to dinner with friends too. I am just very picky about what I choose. Last month, we went to a dinner theater. I ate a few bites of the salad and a small portion of the entree. The rest went back to the kitchen. ( I did throw some of my steak on hubby's plate, it was STEAK after all) I have no regrets. This was the best thing I have ever done. I have a protien shake every morning along with a few sips of coffee and a bottle of water, protien for lunch, I try to have a shake in the afternoon, but where I work is SO busy I am on my feet for 8 hours. I have dinner with my family. I eat a small portion of the meat I put on the table for everyone else. I am really not missing anything but the things that are bad for me, the sweets and hi carb foods. I really dont' crave these things anymore. You really shouldn't feel you have to " suffer the consequences " . Are you going to support meetings? The hospital I had my surgery has them every month. Sharon RNY LAP 7-17-03 Dr. . Miami Hope Center 315/247/150 Re: Digest Number 1477 In a message dated 10/16/2003 4:28:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Wolfeyes205@... writes: Are you saying that you would not do it again? it sounds to me like you are saying that you regret having the surgery? Just curious Hey there girl yup I said it I would have rather lost my weight by the normal protocols or not at all. I used to enjoy going out for dinner with friends and going on vacations and enjoying those little extra treats. Now I can hardly even enjoy a meal much less anything that I loved before surgery well except for juices. I can drink orange juice and any kind of juice all day. I can even eat products with a high sugar content with no problem. I am sick of this bulimic type program of my body expelling food that upsets it. I drink a protein shake sometimes when I can remember and I do take my vitamins. Don't get me wrong I have lost a lot of weight and everyone tells me I look great and I do love the way I am going down in size but the enjoyment of food is gone forever. I never had any health problems before surgery so the benefit of it is purely esthetic for me. I just miss eating a meal and not having to think the hell out of it before hand is all. As for the surgery even when I reach my goal weight and I know I will I will never advocate to anyone to get it done. The quality of my life has decreased just a bit with this surgery and I miss that bit that ease of living and I know it is gone forever. I will forever more have to be so careful of what I eat and I guess I deserve it after all I put myself in the weight class to have a need for surgery so now I suffer the consequences. Do it again no way . Lori Anne Lap RNY 8/25/03 274/247/135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 I am so glad to hear you say this . I am coming up on five weeks and my energy is still well below normal, although I think it is starting to improve slightly. I am hoping in the next couple of weeks it is going to change. Candi Re: Digest Number 1477 Hi Lori Anne, You're about six weeks out, right? You're at the point you're getting all your energy back and want to do things but your diet is still somewhat restricted. Open RNY 8/7/03 316/262/150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 In a message dated 10/17/2003 9:03:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, msteele2@... writes: guess my point is that if you reevaluate your situation in a couple of weeks you might be surprised. Hello I understand what you are saying but I hate left overs now and I find it totally wasteful for me to eat out now because I hardly eat anything and I don't want the leftovers and my daughter does not like leftovers either so I just usually bring my own lunch to work and I try not to eat out. Last Friday was my bosses birthday and we all went out to dinner and I ate only a bit of chicken breast it was very moist and tender and I still had to go in the bathroom and give it up to the porcelain god. All my friends know I had surgery and they all are concerned when I toss my cookies and it is embarrassing to not feel human any more. My daughter says I eat barely enough food to feed a small child and she is right but I have my full energy back I had to move two weeks after my surgery so I was packing boxes and lifting things I should not have been but I am a ok. I don't even have any visible scars from my surgery they have all healed and are my exact skin tone and I do enjoy some foods I just will never be " happy " that I had surgery is all. Lori Anne Lap RNY 8/25/03 274/247/135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 In a message dated 10/17/2003 8:25:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, summertodream1@... writes: Lori Anne, Did you not realize all of this before you had the surgery? I mean i have done enough research to know that this is how my life is going to be from now on. i know i have to make different decisions and i have to watch everything i eat... Hi Sweetheart I did more research than doctors on the exact type of surgery I wanted and I listened to every post op report on the matter of foods and the like but believe me the reality is in the living in it. You may feel all prepared and ready to sacrifice any and everything to have surgery but it is not all it is cracked up to be and how your body handles it may be very different from my experiences. I wish you all the best in your journey and your experiences when you have some to report on. All the reading and emailing in the world does not equate to a hill of beans in this surgery. By any means necessary does have its limits. If you can do it on your own the healthy way I say go for it and stick to it and if you want surgery or need it then do what you feel. I fully understood and understand the choice that I made but how your individual body reacts to it is an entirely different story get back to me when you feel your first pouch pain from out of the blue and you feel like dying and your only relief is to toss your own cookies for relief. I had an easy breezy surgery and was back on my feet the next day and was even supportive to my roomie who had the surgery too and I was happy and go lucky after surgery but things do change. I am losing weight and I have never been an ugly person inside or out but I am also a realist and I will always tell the truth and not sugar coat anything about this surgery for anyone. I will tell anyone exactly how I feel at each step of my journey for better or for worse. Lori Anne Lap RNY 8/25/03 274/247/135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Lori anne, i think as a part of this support group i have the right to ask questions and to learn..this is the FIRST i have heard anyone mention the hard cold truth it seems about this surgery and the after effects...i am NOT trying to be rude as i have taken your comments but i am trying to learn from YOU...i am going into surgery tuesday and i am just NOW hearing this part of the whole thing....so please dont be rude to me about getting back to YOU when i have experiences..my questions are NOT meant to be rude but to ask you so that i can make the right decision. Thank you! Preop LapRNY 10-21-03 Dr. K. Borhanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 I can totally understand where you are coming from Lori Anne. I go through spurts where I wish I had never done it as well. I tell myself why didn't you just stop eating so much and lose weight like other people do. But the truth is I know I wouldn't have ever done it. People think this is such an easy way out when in fact it is hard. I hope things get better for you as you go along. It is supposed to be easier when you get out 8 months or so. I am sure hoping anyway. Candi Re: Digest Number 1477 In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:27:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bosarge3@... writes: Lets us hear from you in a year from now or better than that 20 years from now when you don't have heart problems and diabetes. Hi A. B. I hear what you are saying but my family has these things anyway and if I am going to get them I believe that genetics will have it's ultimate role anyway no matter how much weight I lose. I have always been healthy and I hope that continues. I had the surgery to look better point blank to get back to the way I used to look not for health reasons at all I can at least be truthful to everyone. I did not do it to prevent illnesses because truth be told if you are going to get something you will and there is hardly anything other than eating right and getting a work out on to prevent it. I have encouragement from my family and friends so I am not depressed or discouraged I am just being truthful with my feelings regarding the surgery I had. Even when I am at goal weight I will regret taking such drastic measures to gain control of my own behaviors. I made my own choice to gain weight and my own choice of remedy to lose the weight and all the consequences are my own for better or worse till death do us part me and my pouch. Lori Anne Lap RNY 8/25/03 274/247/135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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