Re: Very Confused About Milk!!! KIM

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Thanks! These are very helpful ideas. I'm going to try everything you

suggested. Tyler can be pretty picky so it might be a little challenging but

I'm sure I can hide some flax in his fruit smoothies. So far Tyler doesn't seem

to like the Rice Milk very much but hopefully he'll grow to like it. I haven't

seen almond milk anywhere. This is just a trial since I'm not 100% sure that

milk/casein is even an issue for us. Maybe it could just be " lactose

intolerance " , but I'm doing this to find out for sure. How long do you suggest

I do this trial? And since it is just a trial do you think I need to read every

label on everything I give him at this point? Right now I am just making sure

he's not eating anything that is blatantly diary. Thanks for all of your advice!

Thanks again.

Kim <kimonines@...> wrote:

I was just having this discussion about fat and protein without milk

with my sister-in-law about my 18 mo-old nephew.

Rice milk is okay, almond milk is better because it has more fat and protein -

plus more Vit E and some magnesium. You are right to be concerned. I would

definitely avoid the soy, not only because of the allergy risk, but also because

it is an oestrogen. If you use rice milk, make sure your toddler is getting

plenty of good fat and protein. This is certainly doable, you just have to be

conscious about it.

I would suggest making sure he has things like eggs, sunflower seed butter

(since you want to be careful about peanuts before age 2), all natural salad

dressing, all natural or organic " buttery " spread like EarthBalance or Organic

Smart Balance (never, ever use margarine because it has all sorts of junk

including trans-fats), ground flax meal, and a good Omega-3 supplement. You can

also give him avocados if he likes them. If you are making sure he has a good

variety of these every day he will be fine as far as fat goes. In fact, these

sources of fat are far better for you than anything you could get from milk.

The eggs, sunflower seed butter, and flax meal also have protein. In addition to

this, if he is eating some chicken and/or beef every day he should be just fine.

I know many kids who have been raised 100% vegan and are not wanting for

protein. Milk is absolutely not a necessary part of anybody's diet despite what

the dairy industry would like for us to believe.

Kim with 4 cuties

Janice <jscott@...> wrote:

The 'opoid' affect in soy is similar to milk. I have found that trace amounts

don't seem problematic but soy is best left off the list. Hopefully some of the

moms with toddlers out there can give you a hand with this or perhaps check out

www.danasview.net to see if she has some helpful tips for little ones.

Janice

[Guest guest]

, I would give the trial a minimum of 2 weeks, but you really do need to

remove ALL dairy to give it a fair shake. Believe it or not, our bodies are

brilliant and can detect even the smallest hint of an offending substance. So

unless you remove all dairy in all it's forms (including looking for code words

like " whey " ) you won't really know for sure.

Kim

lauren baron <laurenrbaron@...> wrote:

Kim,

Thanks! These are very helpful ideas. I'm going to try everything you suggested.

Tyler can be pretty picky so it might be a little challenging but I'm sure I can

hide some flax in his fruit smoothies. So far Tyler doesn't seem to like the

Rice Milk very much but hopefully he'll grow to like it. I haven't seen almond

milk anywhere. This is just a trial since I'm not 100% sure that milk/casein is

even an issue for us. Maybe it could just be " lactose intolerance " , but I'm

doing this to find out for sure. How long do you suggest I do this trial? And

since it is just a trial do you think I need to read every label on everything I

give him at this point? Right now I am just making sure he's not eating anything

that is blatantly diary. Thanks for all of your advice!

Thanks again.

Kim <kimonines@...> wrote:

I was just having this discussion about fat and protein without milk with my

sister-in-law about my 18 mo-old nephew.

Rice milk is okay, almond milk is better because it has more fat and protein -

plus more Vit E and some magnesium. You are right to be concerned. I would

definitely avoid the soy, not only because of the allergy risk, but also because

it is an oestrogen. If you use rice milk, make sure your toddler is getting

plenty of good fat and protein. This is certainly doable, you just have to be

conscious about it.

I would suggest making sure he has things like eggs, sunflower seed butter

(since you want to be careful about peanuts before age 2), all natural salad

dressing, all natural or organic " buttery " spread like EarthBalance or Organic

Smart Balance (never, ever use margarine because it has all sorts of junk

including trans-fats), ground flax meal, and a good Omega-3 supplement. You can

also give him avocados if he likes them. If you are making sure he has a good

variety of these every day he will be fine as far as fat goes. In fact, these

sources of fat are far better for you than anything you could get from milk.

The eggs, sunflower seed butter, and flax meal also have protein. In addition to

this, if he is eating some chicken and/or beef every day he should be just fine.

I know many kids who have been raised 100% vegan and are not wanting for

protein. Milk is absolutely not a necessary part of anybody's diet despite what

the dairy industry would like for us to believe.

Kim with 4 cuties

Janice <jscott@...> wrote:

The 'opoid' affect in soy is similar to milk. I have found that trace amounts

don't seem problematic but soy is best left off the list. Hopefully some of the

moms with toddlers out there can give you a hand with this or perhaps check out

www.danasview.net to see if she has some helpful tips for little ones.

Janice