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April,

Sorry to hear you had a bad meeting. I have had many bad IEP's and I have hired

an advocate who went to 2 IEP's and then I hired the attorney, my advocate works

with to help me to go due process. School districts make us spend alot of time

and money to get the services that are children need.

I am trying to get my 2 kids out of sdc classes and mainstreamed into the

regular classes with the support they need happening in the classroom. In my

district self contained classrooms have too many children with behavior issues

and so the teacher doesn't get to teach the parallel curriculum enough. Which

leaves my children getting too much remediation and not enough learning. My

daughter is 4 years behind in Reading and writing, but is bored to death in the

class. She says it is too easy.

My son is 6 years behind in reading, writing, and speaking and 4 years behind in

math. I hired a tutor last May and so he actually made a little gain this last

year. I am fighting to get the school to pay me back for the tutoring expenses.

They had him misdiagnosed as retarded for 3 years and then refuse to compensate

for the lack of appropriate services.

Good Luck,

Lorraine

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From: " April Larsen " <ALarsen65@...>

I just had to blow steam that we had the worst meeting the school

study team - who, once again, recommended SLT for 20 min 3X a week in

group and would not even review the many (and I mean many_ reserached

based school appropriate education recommended for SPD/Apraxia. It

went no where quickly and they failed to provide SLT goals or even

discuss mine (they were passed around). The case manager left the

room unannounced 3Times, the third time returning with the school

principal!(not a study team member) who sat down, did not introduce

herself or get introduced to me (my husband conferenced called) and

to top that off she was reading my prepared goals! It ended very

sour with them abruptly stating our time was up (they told me they

allowed for two hours and we had 20 minutes to go) the principal

asked my son's preschool teacher to come with her because she had a

home study meeting but....the teacher's purse and car keys remained

in the classroom another 10 minutes while I tried to sort out how we

would review the goals. It was then that case manager failed to

provide me with a copy of who attended the meeting and any progress

reports that I asked for (although the OT did prepare one the teacher

and the speech pathologist did not) and brought up mediation. I

countered today by contacting an advocate, and SPAN, and sending off

a 4 page letter that lists my concerns, what we agreed on and what we

did not and asked for another IEP meeting with the director of pupil

services. Also as a side note the summary the SLT did share was a

two short paragraph one (this for a speech language disorder!) that

stated my son used some jargon words - HELLO?! It is really more

like 75% and my husband stated that in the meeting. I have asked the

study team to have him taped in class, provide us with an IEE and I

would tape him at home with his echoed jargon speech. I feel like I

went to war!

April

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Bypass all of the peons and go straight to getting the superintendant and the

state dept of education involved. I did and they no longer try to fight me on

my sons needs. Once they realize that you are educated in the law and that you

aren't going to listen to their BS they kind of give up and provide the services

they are required to provide.

April Larsen <ALarsen65@...> wrote: I just had to blow steam that

we had the worst meeting the school

study team - who, once again, recommended SLT for 20 min 3X a week in

group and would not even review the many (and I mean many_ reserached

based school appropriate education recommended for SPD/Apraxia. It

went no where quickly and they failed to provide SLT goals or even

discuss mine (they were passed around). The case manager left the

room unannounced 3Times, the third time returning with the school

principal!(not a study team member) who sat down, did not introduce

herself or get introduced to me (my husband conferenced called) and

to top that off she was reading my prepared goals! It ended very

sour with them abruptly stating our time was up (they told me they

allowed for two hours and we had 20 minutes to go) the principal

asked my son's preschool teacher to come with her because she had a

home study meeting but....the teacher's purse and car keys remained

in the classroom another 10 minutes while I tried to sort out how we

would review the goals. It was then that case manager failed to

provide me with a copy of who attended the meeting and any progress

reports that I asked for (although the OT did prepare one the teacher

and the speech pathologist did not) and brought up mediation. I

countered today by contacting an advocate, and SPAN, and sending off

a 4 page letter that lists my concerns, what we agreed on and what we

did not and asked for another IEP meeting with the director of pupil

services. Also as a side note the summary the SLT did share was a

two short paragraph one (this for a speech language disorder!) that

stated my son used some jargon words - HELLO?! It is really more

like 75% and my husband stated that in the meeting. I have asked the

study team to have him taped in class, provide us with an IEE and I

would tape him at home with his echoed jargon speech. I feel like I

went to war!

April

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I am in the process of hiring an advocate to help navigate through

the mess and to be honest with you - even though I am pretty well

read I was not sure if I was being paranoid or that perhaps I was too

staid in expecting professionals to act like professionals. After

speaking to a few advocates I have a bad feeling that I will need to

get professional help. One of them is the Mom of two handicapped

children and I think it takes one to know one but hiring her is not

cheap. We will do whatever we can to fight this because it will be a

battle for the next 21 yrs or so - might as well draw first blood now!

What stops the 'clock'? I sent out my five page request for a new

IEP meeting citing my issues and concerns w/ regard to how the

meeting was run. They sent me (in the meantime) the same freakin IEP

that I did not agree to - I am not sure how that makes me a

collaborative team member if they already decided on my son's goals -

and get this - they state in their letter to me that in the future I

should present my goals to them ahead of time!!! Isn't that funny?

Because I asked them for progress reports so I could come up with

appropriate areas that my child might need to work on and they

refused saying I would get them in June!!!!!! What a crock of you

know what!!!!

April

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april..what state are you in?

there's no charge for my advocate.

On 5/25/07, April Larsen <ALarsen65@...> wrote:

>

> I am in the process of hiring an advocate to help navigate through

> the mess and to be honest with you - even though I am pretty well

> read I was not sure if I was being paranoid or that perhaps I was too

> staid in expecting professionals to act like professionals. After

> speaking to a few advocates I have a bad feeling that I will need to

> get professional help. One of them is the Mom of two handicapped

> children and I think it takes one to know one but hiring her is not

> cheap. We will do whatever we can to fight this because it will be a

> battle for the next 21 yrs or so - might as well draw first blood now!

>

> What stops the 'clock'? I sent out my five page request for a new

> IEP meeting citing my issues and concerns w/ regard to how the

> meeting was run. They sent me (in the meantime) the same freakin IEP

> that I did not agree to - I am not sure how that makes me a

> collaborative team member if they already decided on my son's goals -

> and get this - they state in their letter to me that in the future I

> should present my goals to them ahead of time!!! Isn't that funny?

> Because I asked them for progress reports so I could come up with

> appropriate areas that my child might need to work on and they

> refused saying I would get them in June!!!!!! What a crock of you

> know what!!!!

> April

>

>

>

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April,

Sorry you had such a bad meeting. I have had many bad ones lately too. I hired

an advocate in February and she actually got an extra para instructional aid put

into my son's class so that he would get a little bit of small group

instruction. I have been trying in vain for 7 1/2 years to get him extra help

and not getting anywhere. I pay her $60 dollars a month for unlimited services

including emails, phone calls, faxes and attending IEP's. I pay her $10 to $15

dollars an hour for her babysitter when she comes to an IEP. In February I paid

her a total of $100 dollars. In March I paid the same $100 dollars, but I

didn't make any gains that month. The end of April we decided that I needed to

hire an attorney to go to due process because I have been paying for a private

tutor for over a year now and I want to get reimbursed. My advocate works for

the attorney and so I was able to get the attorney for a sliding scale fee.

I would go with an advocate that you feel comfortable with. I have had several

other advocates and they were fine when I had them. But I realize now that the

current advocate I have is much more knowledgeable than the others about the law

and LRE.

My advocate helps me for free with the second child giving advice. She is

willing to give free advice at the beginning. Once she starts going to the

IEP's you pay the monthly fees.

I have 2 kids with IEP's and I am going nuts trying to play the school district

games.

Good Luck,

Lorraine

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " April Larsen " <ALarsen65@...>

I am in the process of hiring an advocate to help navigate through

the mess and to be honest with you - even though I am pretty well

read I was not sure if I was being paranoid or that perhaps I was too

staid in expecting professionals to act like professionals. After

speaking to a few advocates I have a bad feeling that I will need to

get professional help. One of them is the Mom of two handicapped

children and I think it takes one to know one but hiring her is not

cheap. We will do whatever we can to fight this because it will be a

battle for the next 21 yrs or so - might as well draw first blood now!

What stops the 'clock'? I sent out my five page request for a new

IEP meeting citing my issues and concerns w/ regard to how the

meeting was run. They sent me (in the meantime) the same freakin IEP

that I did not agree to - I am not sure how that makes me a

collaborative team member if they already decided on my son's goals -

and get this - they state in their letter to me that in the future I

should present my goals to them ahead of time!!! Isn't that funny?

Because I asked them for progress reports so I could come up with

appropriate areas that my child might need to work on and they

refused saying I would get them in June!!!!!! What a crock of you

know what!!!!

April

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kayce

What state are you in ? I have never heard of a free advocate.

sharon

Kayce Spader <kaycespader@...> wrote:

april..what state are you in?

there's no charge for my advocate.

On 5/25/07, April Larsen <ALarsen65@...> wrote:

>

> I am in the process of hiring an advocate to help navigate through

> the mess and to be honest with you - even though I am pretty well

> read I was not sure if I was being paranoid or that perhaps I was too

> staid in expecting professionals to act like professionals. After

> speaking to a few advocates I have a bad feeling that I will need to

> get professional help. One of them is the Mom of two handicapped

> children and I think it takes one to know one but hiring her is not

> cheap. We will do whatever we can to fight this because it will be a

> battle for the next 21 yrs or so - might as well draw first blood now!

>

> What stops the 'clock'? I sent out my five page request for a new

> IEP meeting citing my issues and concerns w/ regard to how the

> meeting was run. They sent me (in the meantime) the same freakin IEP

> that I did not agree to - I am not sure how that makes me a

> collaborative team member if they already decided on my son's goals -

> and get this - they state in their letter to me that in the future I

> should present my goals to them ahead of time!!! Isn't that funny?

> Because I asked them for progress reports so I could come up with

> appropriate areas that my child might need to work on and they

> refused saying I would get them in June!!!!!! What a crock of you

> know what!!!!

> April

>

>

>

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April,

check to see if the school district has a " parent mentor " . Our parent

mentors are parents that have (grown) children with disabilities and

have been through this process already,so they know the laws. They are

to " work " for you, not the school district and there is no charge for

them (ours is paid through grant, not school money). Good luck.

Bonnie

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Hi,

I also have a free advocate. I live in NY. Check out Independent Living

Centers. They are a nationwide agency. They may be able to help you.

sharon lang <flipperlang@...> wrote:

kayce

What state are you in ? I have never heard of a free advocate.

sharon

Kayce Spader <kaycespader@...> wrote:

april..what state are you in?

there's no charge for my advocate.

On 5/25/07, April Larsen <ALarsen65@...> wrote:

>

> I am in the process of hiring an advocate to help navigate through

> the mess and to be honest with you - even though I am pretty well

> read I was not sure if I was being paranoid or that perhaps I was too

> staid in expecting professionals to act like professionals. After

> speaking to a few advocates I have a bad feeling that I will need to

> get professional help. One of them is the Mom of two handicapped

> children and I think it takes one to know one but hiring her is not

> cheap. We will do whatever we can to fight this because it will be a

> battle for the next 21 yrs or so - might as well draw first blood now!

>

> What stops the 'clock'? I sent out my five page request for a new

> IEP meeting citing my issues and concerns w/ regard to how the

> meeting was run. They sent me (in the meantime) the same freakin IEP

> that I did not agree to - I am not sure how that makes me a

> collaborative team member if they already decided on my son's goals -

> and get this - they state in their letter to me that in the future I

> should present my goals to them ahead of time!!! Isn't that funny?

> Because I asked them for progress reports so I could come up with

> appropriate areas that my child might need to work on and they

> refused saying I would get them in June!!!!!! What a crock of you

> know what!!!!

> April

>

>

>

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