Re: IS PROMPT NECESSARY???

[Guest guest]

My daughter gets regular speech and PROMPT. Her PROMPT therapist is

one of the PROMPT instructors and she's one of their " top "

instructors. So I pretty much consider her an expert. She is in

Grace's face quite a lot and it took AG a bit to get used to

this. She doesn't like it but she'll put up with it because the

PROMPT is integrated into playing with the doll house, etc. Our

PROMPT therapist feels that a child does not need PROMPT more than

once a week for a 1 hour session. In addition, she feels that the

regular speech therapy is also vital.

So... My take on this?

Yes PROMPT is worthwhile

No, your kid probably isn't going to be thrilled (and I have to say

he's a bit young for it)

and No... PROMPT is not the " only way " .

Kris

On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:51 AM, laurenrbaron wrote:

> My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the other is

> not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all she has

> available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to do well

> with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's clearly not

> thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes straight. On

> the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the PROMPT SLP is

> all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an apraxic

> child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT each week.

> She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> worthwhile,

> but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do I need

> to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the regular

> SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her and

> she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most beneficial

> for Tyler.

> Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic child?

> BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein free

> diet.

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My 27 months old dyspraxic son started speech therapy through early intervention

when he was 19-20 months old. We also started at the same time private speech

therapy. His early intervention SLP isn't PROMPT certified, whereas his private

SLP is. He gets two hours of speech therapy through early intervention and half

an hour to fourty-five minutes a week of private therapy.He loves working with

both SLPs and has improved greatly thanks to both of them. It is hard, even now,

to do only PROMPT with him given that he doesn't like to be touched too much on

the face. His private SLP uses PROMPT but not exclusively during his sessions.

At 19 months he was non verbal and we are now at 2-3 and some 4 word sentences.

Good Luck,

Nada, 's mom

[ ] IS PROMPT NECESSARY???

My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the other is

not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all she has

available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to do well

with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's clearly not

thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes straight. On

the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the PROMPT SLP is

all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an apraxic

child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT each week.

She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not worthwhile,

but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do I need

to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the regular

SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her and

she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most beneficial

for Tyler.

Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic child?

BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein free diet.

Thanks for any advice!

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[Guest guest]

www.promptinstitute.org is the web site if anyone is interested. If you child

has severe motor planning issues I would highly recommend it. It is great for

helping the child learn to work the muscles of the mouth.

sharon

Haukoos <catnip9@...> wrote:

My daughter gets regular speech and PROMPT. Her PROMPT therapist is

one of the PROMPT instructors and she's one of their " top "

instructors. So I pretty much consider her an expert. She is in

Grace's face quite a lot and it took AG a bit to get used to

this. She doesn't like it but she'll put up with it because the

PROMPT is integrated into playing with the doll house, etc. Our

PROMPT therapist feels that a child does not need PROMPT more than

once a week for a 1 hour session. In addition, she feels that the

regular speech therapy is also vital.

So... My take on this?

Yes PROMPT is worthwhile

No, your kid probably isn't going to be thrilled (and I have to say

he's a bit young for it)

and No... PROMPT is not the " only way " .

Kris

On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:51 AM, laurenrbaron wrote:

> My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the other is

> not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all she has

> available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to do well

> with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's clearly not

> thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes straight. On

> the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the PROMPT SLP is

> all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an apraxic

> child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT each week.

> She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> worthwhile,

> but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do I need

> to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the regular

> SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her and

> she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most beneficial

> for Tyler.

> Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic child?

> BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein free

> diet.

> Thanks for any advice!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I am truly a supporter of prompt. I started when my first child was

approximately 2.6 years and in " traditional " therapy (dx with severe dyspraxia).

He had no words and very few sounds (was in therapy from the age of 12 months

and making no progress). Once we started prompt, things started to change

(slowly but changed). My next child started prompt at 13 months (also was dx

with dypraxia). It was a slow process but we started to see results. The

problem my children had with tradtional therapy was they had no idea how to make

the sounds. Prompt allowed them to learn. My 3rd child is now receiving prompt

therapy. She is currently in speech 3 times per week. She has 2 therapists and

they are amazing!!! At this point there are no words and very few sounds but I

know with this method we will see results. Intensive therapy definitely made a

huge difference. All my children have Sensory Intergration Dyfunction and

touching their faces is an issue (even to this day).

There were definitely days that they cried more than allowed for therapy but we

got through those times. Prompt SAVED my children!

For my children we also did sign language as well as pics. I think that this

also helped a lot. My youngest doesn't do any signs (motor planning), cannot

wave bye, etc but we continue to sign in hopes that she will " catch on " . There

are many sites on the web where you can type in the word you want to learn the

sign for and they show it to you. A great way to learn sign language and for

many it allows them to communicate when they don't have the words.

age 9, dx dyspraxia, hypotonia, SID, DCD, growth, feeding issues

age 7, dx dyspraxia, hypotonia, SID, DCD, growth, feeding issues

age 17 months, suspected dyspraxia, dysarthria, dx SID, hypotonia and huge

feeding issues!

[ ] IS PROMPT NECESSARY???

My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the other is

not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all she has

available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to do well

with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's clearly not

thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes straight. On

the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the PROMPT SLP is

all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an apraxic

child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT each week.

She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not worthwhile,

but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do I need

to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the regular

SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her and

she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most beneficial

for Tyler.

Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic child?

BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein free diet.

Thanks for any advice!

[Guest guest]

My son has gone to the Prompt Inst for almost two years and it has

been wonderful for him.

Having said that his therapists (even Deborah Hayden the founder of

the method) were not in his face the entire hour session! It was

initially very play based when he started and he was Prompted as

needed. If he could use a visual model or better yet just an auditory

one he wasn't Prompted just for the heck of it! Now the majority of

the session isn't using Prompt, but he is as needed. After the first

few months he started seeking out the Prompt when he realized it was

helping him, and his frustrations were less too. Early on he would

actually reach for his therapist's hands and place them on his face

when he needed more help. Now he verbally asks for help or turns his

face expectantly toward his therapist.

He started with Prompt just before he turned 4. I doubt that he would

have been receptive to the method a year before. But then " regular "

therapy wasn't working either. Even since he's had therapists with

the schools and he has gotten nothing out of it. One of them even

said she couldn't do anything for him - she understood his issues

which are more complex than " just " apraxia - he also has language

issues, but she strongly felt that Prompt was what was helping him,

not her.

In your case I would suggest sticking with it or maybe looking for

another therapist and seeing if that is a better fit. Or if he's very

resistant a break might be in order, but please don't completely

discount the method! I don't believe it is the ONLY way, but for my

son it has been a very good method and the only thing he's responded

to (although we haven't tried some other specific to apraxia

approaches as no therapists here other than Prompt seem to really

" get " apraxia.)

Miche

> > My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> > different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the other is

> > not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all she has

> > available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to do well

> > with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's clearly not

> > thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes straight. On

> > the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the PROMPT SLP is

> > all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an apraxic

> > child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT each week.

> > She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> > worthwhile,

> > but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do I need

> > to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the regular

> > SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her and

> > she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> > therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most beneficial

> > for Tyler.

> > Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic child?

> > BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein free

> > diet.

> > Thanks for any advice!

> >

[Guest guest]

,

My son had a difficult time with PROMPT and had to stop that type of

therapy b/c what was the point of him feeling tortured and not

wanting to go every week. I went to my son's Occupational Therapist

and she told me it may be a sensory dysfunction and that if I found

progress with the one speech therapist to continue with her plus

supplement with Omega 3 oils. We used coromega. I also found a

Speech Therapist who was experienced with oral motor planning

exercises. She used kazoos, whistles, bubbles, starbursts, M & Ms, a

mirror and a mouth expander to warm up his mouth prior to each

speech lesson. We continued this every day at home for 15 minutes.

For two years I also combined the OT and Speech Therapist in a 45

minute session once a week so each could learn from one another the

proper therapy techniques to use. It really benefited my son.

Sometimes apraxia is a symptom rather than the main cause such as a

motor planning disorder that can affect the entire body which needs

treated as well.

You know your child best and what helps one child may not help

yours. go with your gut feeling and keep asking questions until you

find the right placement for your child. I fell into DAN which is a

protocol for autistic kids. After testing my childs blood, urine

and stools he was diagnosed with a leaky gut which is an overload of

yeast in his body. Once this leaky gut was taken care of, I saw a

big improvement in verbalization. I then proceeded with an

audiological, vision and speech exams as well as occupational for

educational and medical purposes.

The audiological was completed at The Center in Rockaway, Nj.

The visual exam was through a developmental optometrist in

Livingston, NJ www.covd.org Speech exams were specific to

apraxia for a preschooler in West Long Branch NJ. The SIPT exam was

done in Caldwell, NJ. The reason for medical and educational was so

that the insurance would pay and the school would listen.

Having private testing was a burden to our family budget, but it

also reconfirmed or contradicted the Child Study Team's evals when

it came to sit down with the public school and set up a plan.

Do a google and research keywords prior to meeting with the IEP team

so you can have knowledge of all the acronyms they will bombard you

with and you walk out of there not signing the IEP but telling them

you will need to review the report quietly at home and if you have

any questions will contact them.

All the best,

Joanne

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Just an extra comment from me that I see from this email. I see that if Tyler

doesn't say a word correctly she says no and then asks him to repeat. He is 19

months and if he can't physically say it he will get frustrated with this

method. It sounds hard in my opinion. For my 17 month old if she makes a sound

that is GREAT! Doesn't have to be the sound that they are looking for but a

vocalization. Just my experience with many therapists but I would hate Tyler to

start getting frustrated with these methods.

Just my 2 cents.

Re: [ ] IS PROMPT NECESSARY??? MICHELLE OR ANYONE

WITH ADVICE

Hi ,

Thanks for your response. I'm sure every PROMPT therapist has their own style,

but I am wondering about my therapist now. She is prompting him a whole lot. I

understand that this may be necessary as he has very few sounds that he has

control of (uh, oh, ah, ba, mmm). There is some play involved, but it's

basically " oh, you want to turn this on?, say on " and a prompt, " oh you want to

eat the goldfish? say open. " and a prompt, " oh you want to say bye bye to the

toy?, say bye bye " and another prompt, etc, etc.... for 45 minutes with little

breaks that involve oral motor exercise. If he says an incorrect sound or just

babbles she tells him " no, try again " and prompts again. Does this seem to

intense? He's 19 months. He has a lot of fun in regular Speech and does make

some progress there. Any thoughts based on your experiences?

Thanks so much,

Grassia <miche37gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

My son has gone to the Prompt Inst for almost two years and it has

been wonderful for him.

Having said that his therapists (even Deborah Hayden the founder of

the method) were not in his face the entire hour session! It was

initially very play based when he started and he was Prompted as

needed. If he could use a visual model or better yet just an auditory

one he wasn't Prompted just for the heck of it! Now the majority of

the session isn't using Prompt, but he is as needed. After the first

few months he started seeking out the Prompt when he realized it was

helping him, and his frustrations were less too. Early on he would

actually reach for his therapist's hands and place them on his face

when he needed more help. Now he verbally asks for help or turns his

face expectantly toward his therapist.

He started with Prompt just before he turned 4. I doubt that he would

have been receptive to the method a year before. But then " regular "

therapy wasn't working either. Even since he's had therapists with

the schools and he has gotten nothing out of it. One of them even

said she couldn't do anything for him - she understood his issues

which are more complex than " just " apraxia - he also has language

issues, but she strongly felt that Prompt was what was helping him,

not her.

In your case I would suggest sticking with it or maybe looking for

another therapist and seeing if that is a better fit. Or if he's very

resistant a break might be in order, but please don't completely

discount the method! I don't believe it is the ONLY way, but for my

son it has been a very good method and the only thing he's responded

to (although we haven't tried some other specific to apraxia

approaches as no therapists here other than Prompt seem to really

" get " apraxia.)

Miche

> > My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> > different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the other is

> > not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all she has

> > available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to do well

> > with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's clearly not

> > thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes straight. On

> > the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the PROMPT SLP is

> > all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an apraxic

> > child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT each week.

> > She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> > worthwhile,

> > but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do I need

> > to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the regular

> > SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her and

> > she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> > therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most beneficial

> > for Tyler.

> > Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic child?

> > BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein free

> > diet.

> > Thanks for any advice!

> >

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[Guest guest]

i agree-that's how it is with us too-whole session is not in the

face....i think speech somes with a variety of methods. Not everyone

SLPs) is on the PROMPT bandwagon because they haven't seen it in

action but I am a firm believer in it and fought to get my son to

have it. We actually petitioned the insurance co and they agreed to

reimburse us for 90% of the cost but we have to pay up front since

the office we go to doesn't accept insurance payemnts from anyone.

Getting the $ is the issue ;-(

PROMPT doesn't discount what your regular Speech therapist does, it

just enhances it I think. Sometimes the professionals workingwith

our children feel slighted & think that you might think that what

they are doing isn't enough and that truly isn't the case. Sometimes

our kids just need A LOT of stuff that can't be handled by one

person. My son has sooooo many therapists that it's just a dance to

make sure eveybody's happy.

>

> My son has gone to the Prompt Inst for almost two years and it has

> been wonderful for him.

>

> Having said that his therapists (even Deborah Hayden the founder of

> the method) were not in his face the entire hour session! It was

> initially very play based when he started and he was Prompted as

> needed. If he could use a visual model or better yet just an

auditory

> one he wasn't Prompted just for the heck of it! Now the majority of

> the session isn't using Prompt, but he is as needed. After the

first

> few months he started seeking out the Prompt when he realized it was

> helping him, and his frustrations were less too. Early on he would

> actually reach for his therapist's hands and place them on his face

> when he needed more help. Now he verbally asks for help or turns

his

> face expectantly toward his therapist.

>

> He started with Prompt just before he turned 4. I doubt that he

would

> have been receptive to the method a year before. But then " regular "

> therapy wasn't working either. Even since he's had therapists with

> the schools and he has gotten nothing out of it. One of them even

> said she couldn't do anything for him - she understood his issues

> which are more complex than " just " apraxia - he also has language

> issues, but she strongly felt that Prompt was what was helping him,

> not her.

>

> In your case I would suggest sticking with it or maybe looking for

> another therapist and seeing if that is a better fit. Or if he's

very

> resistant a break might be in order, but please don't completely

> discount the method! I don't believe it is the ONLY way, but for my

> son it has been a very good method and the only thing he's responded

> to (although we haven't tried some other specific to apraxia

> approaches as no therapists here other than Prompt seem to really

> " get " apraxia.)

>

> Miche

>

> > > My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> > > different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the

other is

> > > not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all

she has

> > > available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to

do well

> > > with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's

clearly not

> > > thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes

straight. On

> > > the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the

PROMPT SLP is

> > > all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an

apraxic

> > > child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT

each week.

> > > She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> > > worthwhile,

> > > but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do

I need

> > > to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the

regular

> > > SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her

and

> > > she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> > > therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most

beneficial

> > > for Tyler.

> > > Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic

child?

> > > BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein

free

> > > diet.

> > > Thanks for any advice!

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 7 years old, apraxic and has about 6 words PROMPTed and only 2-3

unprompted. Shehas severe motor planning issues-- not just in the mouth, but

everywhere.

Anyhow, we know PROMPT is the answer for her. I just wanted to mention that

more is not always better.

Our slp only sees her 1x a week as she bases her recommendations on how well

the parents follow through -- we do all 20 PROMPT cards with her every night

and PROMPt her all day long -- and how much speech she gets at school.

Just a thought.

Best of luck.

Sharon

joybar0997 <joybar0997@...> wrote:

i agree-that's how it is with us too-whole session is not in the

face....i think speech somes with a variety of methods. Not everyone

SLPs) is on the PROMPT bandwagon because they haven't seen it in

action but I am a firm believer in it and fought to get my son to

have it. We actually petitioned the insurance co and they agreed to

reimburse us for 90% of the cost but we have to pay up front since

the office we go to doesn't accept insurance payemnts from anyone.

Getting the $ is the issue ;-(

PROMPT doesn't discount what your regular Speech therapist does, it

just enhances it I think. Sometimes the professionals workingwith

our children feel slighted & think that you might think that what

they are doing isn't enough and that truly isn't the case. Sometimes

our kids just need A LOT of stuff that can't be handled by one

person. My son has sooooo many therapists that it's just a dance to

make sure eveybody's happy.

>

> My son has gone to the Prompt Inst for almost two years and it has

> been wonderful for him.

>

> Having said that his therapists (even Deborah Hayden the founder of

> the method) were not in his face the entire hour session! It was

> initially very play based when he started and he was Prompted as

> needed. If he could use a visual model or better yet just an

auditory

> one he wasn't Prompted just for the heck of it! Now the majority of

> the session isn't using Prompt, but he is as needed. After the

first

> few months he started seeking out the Prompt when he realized it was

> helping him, and his frustrations were less too. Early on he would

> actually reach for his therapist's hands and place them on his face

> when he needed more help. Now he verbally asks for help or turns

his

> face expectantly toward his therapist.

>

> He started with Prompt just before he turned 4. I doubt that he

would

> have been receptive to the method a year before. But then " regular "

> therapy wasn't working either. Even since he's had therapists with

> the schools and he has gotten nothing out of it. One of them even

> said she couldn't do anything for him - she understood his issues

> which are more complex than " just " apraxia - he also has language

> issues, but she strongly felt that Prompt was what was helping him,

> not her.

>

> In your case I would suggest sticking with it or maybe looking for

> another therapist and seeing if that is a better fit. Or if he's

very

> resistant a break might be in order, but please don't completely

> discount the method! I don't believe it is the ONLY way, but for my

> son it has been a very good method and the only thing he's responded

> to (although we haven't tried some other specific to apraxia

> approaches as no therapists here other than Prompt seem to really

> " get " apraxia.)

>

> Miche

>

> > > My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> > > different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the

other is

> > > not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all

she has

> > > available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to

do well

> > > with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's

clearly not

> > > thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes

straight. On

> > > the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the

PROMPT SLP is

> > > all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an

apraxic

> > > child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT

each week.

> > > She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> > > worthwhile,

> > > but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do

I need

> > > to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the

regular

> > > SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her

and

> > > she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> > > therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most

beneficial

> > > for Tyler.

> > > Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic

child?

> > > BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein

free

> > > diet.

> > > Thanks for any advice!

> > >

>

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[Guest guest]

Sharon,

It sounds as though many children are really benefitting from PROMPT! It was

never around in 'our day' so it is nice that there are sooo many good

interventions for our little ones who are struggling with initial language.

Keep up the good fight! Keep letting those parents know what works of every

level of development in all of this must be our united mission!

Oh, if only this board had been here when my boy was young.....

Janice

[sPAM] Re: [ ] Re: IS PROMPT NECESSARY???

My daughter is 7 years old, apraxic and has about 6 words PROMPTed and only

2-3 unprompted. Shehas severe motor planning issues-- not just in the mouth, but

everywhere.

Anyhow, we know PROMPT is the answer for her. I just wanted to mention that

more is not always better.

Our slp only sees her 1x a week as she bases her recommendations on how well

the parents follow through -- we do all 20 PROMPT cards with her every night and

PROMPt her all day long -- and how much speech she gets at school.

Just a thought.

Best of luck.

Sharon

joybar0997 <joybar0997@...> wrote:

i agree-that's how it is with us too-whole session is not in the

face....i think speech somes with a variety of methods. Not everyone

SLPs) is on the PROMPT bandwagon because they haven't seen it in

action but I am a firm believer in it and fought to get my son to

have it. We actually petitioned the insurance co and they agreed to

reimburse us for 90% of the cost but we have to pay up front since

the office we go to doesn't accept insurance payemnts from anyone.

Getting the $ is the issue ;-(

PROMPT doesn't discount what your regular Speech therapist does, it

just enhances it I think. Sometimes the professionals workingwith

our children feel slighted & think that you might think that what

they are doing isn't enough and that truly isn't the case. Sometimes

our kids just need A LOT of stuff that can't be handled by one

person. My son has sooooo many therapists that it's just a dance to

make sure eveybody's happy.

>

> My son has gone to the Prompt Inst for almost two years and it has

> been wonderful for him.

>

> Having said that his therapists (even Deborah Hayden the founder of

> the method) were not in his face the entire hour session! It was

> initially very play based when he started and he was Prompted as

> needed. If he could use a visual model or better yet just an

auditory

> one he wasn't Prompted just for the heck of it! Now the majority of

> the session isn't using Prompt, but he is as needed. After the

first

> few months he started seeking out the Prompt when he realized it was

> helping him, and his frustrations were less too. Early on he would

> actually reach for his therapist's hands and place them on his face

> when he needed more help. Now he verbally asks for help or turns

his

> face expectantly toward his therapist.

>

> He started with Prompt just before he turned 4. I doubt that he

would

> have been receptive to the method a year before. But then " regular "

> therapy wasn't working either. Even since he's had therapists with

> the schools and he has gotten nothing out of it. One of them even

> said she couldn't do anything for him - she understood his issues

> which are more complex than " just " apraxia - he also has language

> issues, but she strongly felt that Prompt was what was helping him,

> not her.

>

> In your case I would suggest sticking with it or maybe looking for

> another therapist and seeing if that is a better fit. Or if he's

very

> resistant a break might be in order, but please don't completely

> discount the method! I don't believe it is the ONLY way, but for my

> son it has been a very good method and the only thing he's responded

> to (although we haven't tried some other specific to apraxia

> approaches as no therapists here other than Prompt seem to really

> " get " apraxia.)

>

> Miche

>

> > > My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> > > different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the

other is

> > > not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all

she has

> > > available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to

do well

> > > with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's

clearly not

> > > thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes

straight. On

> > > the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the

PROMPT SLP is

> > > all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an

apraxic

> > > child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT

each week.

> > > She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> > > worthwhile,

> > > but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do

I need

> > > to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the

regular

> > > SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her

and

> > > she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> > > therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most

beneficial

> > > for Tyler.

> > > Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic

child?

> > > BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein

free

> > > diet.

> > > Thanks for any advice!

> > >

>

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It is the only thing that has helped my son.? Before Prompt, my son had maybe 10

words, and within a matter of months he has at least?50 single words, and he

will sometimes put two or three words together.? We go to Prompt 3 days a week,

but every kid is different.

Jami

Re: [ ] Re: IS PROMPT NECESSARY???

Sharon,

It sounds as though many children are really benefitting from PROMPT! It was

never around in 'our day' so it is nice that there are sooo many good

interventions for our little ones who are struggling with initial language.

Keep up the good fight! Keep letting those parents know what works of every

level of development in all of this must be our united mission!

Oh, if only this board had been here when my boy was young.....

Janice

[sPAM] Re: [ ] Re: IS PROMPT NECESSARY???

My daughter is 7 years old, apraxic and has about 6 words PROMPTed and only 2-3

unprompted. Shehas severe motor planning issues-- not just in the mouth, but

everywhere.

Anyhow, we know PROMPT is the answer for her. I just wanted to mention that more

is not always better.

Our slp only sees her 1x a week as she bases her recommendations on how well the

parents follow through -- we do all 20 PROMPT cards with her every night and

PROMPt her all day long -- and how much speech she gets at school.

Just a thought.

Best of luck.

Sharon

joybar0997 <joybar0997@...> wrote:

i agree-that's how it is with us too-whole session is not in the

face....i think speech somes with a variety of methods. Not everyone

SLPs) is on the PROMPT bandwagon because they haven't seen it in

action but I am a firm believer in it and fought to get my son to

have it. We actually petitioned the insurance co and they agreed to

reimburse us for 90% of the cost but we have to pay up front since

the office we go to doesn't accept insurance payemnts from anyone.

Getting the $ is the issue ;-(

PROMPT doesn't discount what your regular Speech therapist does, it

just enhances it I think. Sometimes the professionals workingwith

our children feel slighted & think that you might think that what

they are doing isn't enough and that truly isn't the case. Sometimes

our kids just need A LOT of stuff that can't be handled by one

person. My son has sooooo many therapists that it's just a dance to

make sure eveybody's happy.

>

> My son has gone to the Prompt Inst for almost two years and it has

> been wonderful for him.

>

> Having said that his therapists (even Deborah Hayden the founder of

> the method) were not in his face the entire hour session! It was

> initially very play based when he started and he was Prompted as

> needed. If he could use a visual model or better yet just an

auditory

> one he wasn't Prompted just for the heck of it! Now the majority of

> the session isn't using Prompt, but he is as needed. After the

first

> few months he started seeking out the Prompt when he realized it was

> helping him, and his frustrations were less too. Early on he would

> actually reach for his therapist's hands and place them on his face

> when he needed more help. Now he verbally asks for help or turns

his

> face expectantly toward his therapist.

>

> He started with Prompt just before he turned 4. I doubt that he

would

> have been receptive to the method a year before. But then " regular "

> therapy wasn't working either. Even since he's had therapists with

> the schools and he has gotten nothing out of it. One of them even

> said she couldn't do anything for him - she understood his issues

> which are more complex than " just " apraxia - he also has language

> issues, but she strongly felt that Prompt was what was helping him,

> not her.

>

> In your case I would suggest sticking with it or maybe looking for

> another therapist and seeing if that is a better fit. Or if he's

very

> resistant a break might be in order, but please don't completely

> discount the method! I don't believe it is the ONLY way, but for my

> son it has been a very good method and the only thing he's responded

> to (although we haven't tried some other specific to apraxia

> approaches as no therapists here other than Prompt seem to really

> " get " apraxia.)

>

> Miche

>

> > > My 19 month old son has been diagnosed with apraxia. We have 2

> > > different SLP's right now. One is PROMPT certified and the

other is

> > > not. He sees the PROMPT therapist once a week (and that's all

she has

> > > available) and the other SLP twice a week. To me he seems to

do well

> > > with both, but he doesn't seem to enjoy the PROMPT. He's

clearly not

> > > thrilled with having her in/on his face for 45 minutes

straight. On

> > > the other hand he loves the other SLP. My problem is the

PROMPT SLP is

> > > all about PROMPT. She insists it's the only way to go with an

apraxic

> > > child and that he should absolutely be getting more PROMPT

each week.

> > > She makes it seem like the other speech he's getting is not

> > > worthwhile,

> > > but I feel it is. Can anyone give me their thought on this? Do

I need

> > > to search out another PROMPT SLP? I'd rather continue with the

regular

> > > SLP (in addition to once a week PROMPT)because Tyler loves her

and

> > > she's working with me to get our health insurance to cover her

> > > therapy. But of course I want to do whatever will be most

beneficial

> > > for Tyler.

> > > Did anyone find great sucees with out PROMPT for their apraxic

child?

> > > BTW we also are doing Fish Oils and currently trying a casein

free

> > > diet.

> > > Thanks for any advice!

> > >

>

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Does anyone have any experience with PROMPT SLPs in a school setting

or is it primarily only offered through private therapy? Would it be

reasonable to suggest that our local school district send someone to

get certified? I was told that it is just " another technique " and that

the district probably wouldn't commit to it but am now wondering if I

should make a big stink. I'd love to provide them with studies of how

effective it is. Any ideas besides what is already on their website?

Thanks!

Connie

[Guest guest]

I don't know any Prompt SLP's in the school setting.? I am currently in a battle

with my district b/c my son made no progress with the speech therapist at his

school, but started to make progress after prompt.? The important thing is to

prove that your child didn't make any progress at school, and to ask for an

independent speech evaluation.

[ ] Re: IS PROMPT NECESSARY???

Does anyone have any experience with PROMPT SLPs in a school setting

or is it primarily only offered through private therapy? Would it be

reasonable to suggest that our local school district send someone to

get certified? I was told that it is just " another technique " and that

the district probably wouldn't commit to it but am now wondering if I

should make a big stink. I'd love to provide them with studies of how

effective it is. Any ideas besides what is already on their website?

Thanks!

Connie

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