RE: Late talking

[Guest guest]

no. don't wait!

I was told the same thing and at 2 y.o., I couldn't wait anymore because I

knew something was not quite right. I asked for a referral to a speech

language specialist and sure enough they referred me to Early Intervention.

At 3 y.o. my son was diagnosed with Severe Oral & Verbal Apraxia, Sensory

Integration Disorder & Hypotonia...

Don't wait. Get a specialist to evaluate your son.

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Newcomer-

My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words. The

doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

Char

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[Guest guest]

The problem with waiting is what if it is more than late blooming. I

have read that only 16% of speech delays resolve on their own. If those

are the odds then I personally would not wait. Early intervention is

free or cheap at least and your child will not be harmed by an

evaluation and therapy. I would not wait.

c_jassz wrote:

>Newcomer-

>My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words. The

>doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

>tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

>Char

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

no

c_jassz <c_jassz@...> wrote: Newcomer-

My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words. The

doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

Char

[Guest guest]

Hello Char,

There is no harm in getting an assessment done on your son. You can call your

local early intervention office (for children under the age of 3 years) or you

can take your son for a private assessment. I would suggest that you get one

done. The earlier the better and then the sooner you can intervene if

neccessary.

age 9, dx dyspraxia, hypotonia, SID, DCD, growth, feeding issues

age 7, dx dyspraxia, hypotonia, SID, DCD, growth, feeding issues

age 17 months suspected dyspraxia, dysarthria, dx hypotonia, SID, feeding issues

[ ] Late talking

Newcomer-

My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words. The

doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

Char

[Guest guest]

Never Wait.... if I could turn back time....

My child is 12 and all I have ever heard is.... wait or he will grow out of it.

Without proactive intervention, they do NOT grow out of it. With active

intervention, you can really make an enormous difference.

Janice

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c_jassz <c_jassz@...> wrote: Newcomer-

My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words. The

doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

Char

[Guest guest]

Hey Char,

Good Evening. I agree with Troy. I would request an evaluation from

early intervention in your area. I am not sure what the " norm " is for 30

months, but I did check the Hawaii Early Learning Profile and it lists 50

words at that age with the ability to do some combinations. It definitely

will not hurt to go for the evaluation and if nothing else, it will be peace

of mind if they tell you not to worry.

Kind Regards,

Aman

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Troy KIdd

Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:41 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Late talking

no

c_jassz <c_jassz@... <mailto:c_jassz%40> > wrote: Newcomer-

My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words. The

doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

Char

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, I just read your comment. I agree.

Newcomer-

> My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words.

The

> doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

> tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

> Char

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, I just read your comment. I agree.

Newcomer-

> My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words.

The

> doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

> tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

> Char

>

>

[Guest guest]

With most of his speech consisting of grunting, screaming, and

pointing I am concerned. Cognitively he seems on level. It's just

that we are having trouble communicating with him.

Newcomer-

> My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words.

The

> doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot

of

> tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

> Char

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi i really did not know i joined this group and so how do i exit this group and

iam really sorry

Mira,

go to the sign in screen, hit edit membership, and click leave group and accept

changes. Jeanne

c_jassz <c_jassz@...> wrote: Thank you so much, I just read your

comment. I agree.

Newcomer-

> My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words.

The

> doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot of

> tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

> Char

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Char:

Most two year olds are able to express their thoughts and opinions to

some degree. This is why there is so much frustration and

screaming...your child has probably figured out that no one knows

what he wants or needs. It isn't too late to call Early

Intervention...you could get a good 6 months of therapy and then

transfer to your local school district. Look for signs of fine/gross

motor delays. If there are any request an occupational therapy

evaluation. Have his hearing checked to make sure he is hearing

properly. Look for low muscle tone and signs of sensory integration

dysfunction. (common with apraxia). Definetly get a speech eval.

There is a link below with lots of good information for you to go

through.

Tina

http://www.comeunity.com/disability/speech/speechdevelopmentconcerns.h

tml (might have to cut and paste address)

2 YEARS: By age two, words should be combined into two and three-word

phrases and sentences, such as " more milk " , " all gone " , " my turn " .

The child also understands " where is mommy/daddy? " and simple

directions such as, " get your coat " . Two year olds understand more

words than they can speak. A two-year-old understands approximately

300 words.

3 YEARS: A three-year-old can follow simple directions such as, " time

to take a bath, " " tell him your name. " She can also put an object in,

under, or on top of a table when asked. She can also answer simple

questions about objects such as " which one is bigger? " By age three a

child understands approximately 900 words and speaks 200 words

clearly.

Newcomer-

> > My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible

words.

> The

> > doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a

lot

> of

> > tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

> > Char

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

DON'T WAIT. Get a speech evaluation and start therapy. In the meantime,

your child needs you to help him find a way to communicate. Sign language

worked for us in the early years, and we still use it today even though an

AAC device has now be introduced. Pictures work for others.

Lora

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of c_jassz

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Late talking

With most of his speech consisting of grunting, screaming, and

pointing I am concerned. Cognitively he seems on level. It's just

that we are having trouble communicating with him.

Newcomer-

> My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words.

The

> doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot

of

> tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

> Char

>

>

[Guest guest]

Get rid of the milk products and see if his hearing improves. NO Language = No

hearing! Yes, I know he seems to hear you. It was the same way with us but for

my boy, his hearing was coming in and out like bad stereo reception which

severely affects language development.

For some reason, many, many and more many of our kids 'snap back' when taken off

casien products (which is the protein in milk).

Of course, I am being extremely simplistic and this is not the whole story but

this is one thing you can do immediately which has benefited our children with

speech difficulties without a specialist, a neuro-doc, an ENT, etc. Those

things you can set up but while you're waiting, remove the milk for a minimum of

3 weeks to a month. So, no milk, no yoghurt, no cheese, no breads with milk in

them, make sure that there are no lactose in any of the products you are using.

Also stay away from soy for our children react to it in the same way. After

about a month, reintroduce the milk in a big way for a day and watch for

reactions. Loss of balance, loss of comprehension, diarhea within a few hours

or a couple of days, etc. will be a big indicator if you child is having

similiar problems in digesting milk products.

Other things you can look for in your child is balance issues, mouth breathing

(which may indicate adenoid issues), does he eat in a way that's extremely messy

(because he's trying to breathe through his mouth while eating which also

indicates ENT issues). Is there drooling, poor saliva control etc. Our saliva

control issues were completely eliminated by the elimination of milk. I can see

the difference because I did not know to do this until my child was 11. The

difference is profound and almost disturbing. When my child has milk products,

his dyspraxia is 'full-scale', if he is off of milk, his manner is age

appropriate.

Janice

[sPAM] [ ] Re: Late talking

With most of his speech consisting of grunting, screaming, and

pointing I am concerned. Cognitively he seems on level. It's just

that we are having trouble communicating with him.

Newcomer-

> My son is 30 months and only has about 20 somewhat audible words.

The

> doctor says to wait, but my child is frustrated and having a lot

of

> tantrums. Any suggestions? Should I just wait?

> Char

>

>

[Guest guest]

Simplistic or not, if it were me I'd do a trial without milk and put it

back in. My son had perfect hearing, tubes and still his hearing cut in

and out. It was not until I ditched milk that that stopped. I should

mention the milk ridded him of mouth breathing, snoring and drooling,

all occurred on a peekaboo basis even after tubes which is why we

bothered. I am not looking back. It may not be an outright allergy but

an intolerance he may grow out of. I'll throw it back in now and then

but for now it is out. Also gone are half of his poops which stunk to

high heavens and his bad breath. Yes, I sound dumb and feel dumb but in

the end I tried no milk on a whim only to learn all this. It may not be

your panacaea but in the land of what's wrong with my kid you absolutely

have to pursue trial and error and stick with what works.

Janice wrote:

>Get rid of the milk products and see if his hearing improves. NO Language = No

hearing! Yes, I know he seems to hear you. It was the same way with us but for

my boy, his hearing was coming in and out like bad stereo reception which

severely affects language development.

>

>For some reason, many, many and more many of our kids 'snap back' when taken

off casien products (which is the protein in milk).

>

>Of course, I am being extremely simplistic and this is not the whole story but

this is one thing you can do immediately which has benefited our children with

speech difficulties without a specialist, a neuro-doc, an ENT, etc. Those

things you can set up but while you're waiting, remove the milk for a minimum of

3 weeks to a month. So, no milk, no yoghurt, no cheese, no breads with milk in

them, make sure that there are no lactose in any of the products you are using.

Also stay away from soy for our children react to it in the same way. After

about a month, reintroduce the milk in a big way for a day and watch for

reactions. Loss of balance, loss of comprehension, diarhea within a few hours

or a couple of days, etc. will be a big indicator if you child is having

similiar problems in digesting milk products.

>

>Other things you can look for in your child is balance issues, mouth breathing

(which may indicate adenoid issues), does he eat in a way that's extremely messy

(because he's trying to breathe through his mouth while eating which also

indicates ENT issues). Is there drooling, poor saliva control etc. Our saliva

control issues were completely eliminated by the elimination of milk. I can see

the difference because I did not know to do this until my child was 11. The

difference is profound and almost disturbing. When my child has milk products,

his dyspraxia is 'full-scale', if he is off of milk, his manner is age

appropriate.

>

>Janice

>

>

> [sPAM] [ ] Re: Late talking

>

>

> With most of his speech consisting of grunting, screaming, and

> pointing I am concerned. Cognitively he seems on level. It's just

> that we are having trouble communicating with him.

>