expressive/receptive lang disorder vs apraxia

[Guest guest]

In 's post, she included a post from Dr Agin, which states:

" I personally do not use the term childhood aphasia any

more and refer mostly to children having a receptive and/or

expressive language delay or disorder "

Does this mean that Dr. Agin uses " receptive/expressive language

disorder " instead of " apraxia " when diagnosing children with apraxic-

like symptoms?

I've noticed on another group that Dr Camarata often diagnoses the late

talkers he sees with " mixed receptive expressive language disorder "

(though he has diagnosed at least one child with apraxia.) I've been

wondering what the difference is.

[Guest guest]

Apraxia and aphasia are not the same thing. Dr. Agin may answer

this as well...but in a nutshell we all know she refers to apraxia

in children as " apraxia " or perhaps verbal apraxia, oral apraxia to

differentiate as she is one of my co authors of The Late Talker book

and we all agreed to just call it apraxia. Apraxia is not a

receptive nor cognitive condition -it's a motor planning disorder

(there's one Q and A that's agreed on by all right?!)

Personally we all have to be cautious of the word " receptive " delay

diagnosed by anyone....if it's not appropriate. Clearly with

aphasia however -it is probable to be appropriate if one has an

impairment to comprehend words -but again apashia and apraxia are

not one in the same.

" a•pha•sia (uh-fay'-zhuh) n. An impairment of the ability to use or

comprehend words, usually acquired as a result of a stroke or other

brain injury. "

http://www.aphasia.org/

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[Guest guest]

Okay, I misread that. I thought it said apraxia not aphasia (I copied

and pasted). Sorry about that. Still, this other group I check out

sometimes have stated that receptive delay is not an indication of

cognitive problems, that this is a myth, so I am still confused. My

son's receptive language has tested normal for his age though we used

to think it was behind. So either it caught up or we just couldn't

tell because of his problems with expressing himself. One thing that

makes grasping all this tough is that the experts don't seem to agree.

>

> In 's post, she included a post from Dr Agin, which states:

> " I personally do not use the term childhood aphasia any

> more and refer mostly to children having a receptive and/or

> expressive language delay or disorder "

>

> Does this mean that Dr. Agin uses " receptive/expressive language

> disorder " instead of " apraxia " when diagnosing children with apraxic-

> like symptoms?

>

> I've noticed on another group that Dr Camarata often diagnoses the

late

> talkers he sees with " mixed receptive expressive language disorder "

> (though he has diagnosed at least one child with apraxia.) I've been

> wondering what the difference is.

>

[Guest guest]

What about Disphasia in children?

Teddy

kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

Apraxia and aphasia are not the same thing. Dr. Agin may answer

this as well...but in a nutshell we all know she refers to apraxia

in children as " apraxia " or perhaps verbal apraxia, oral apraxia to

differentiate as she is one of my co authors of The Late Talker book

and we all agreed to just call it apraxia. Apraxia is not a

receptive nor cognitive condition -it's a motor planning disorder

(there's one Q and A that's agreed on by all right?!)

Personally we all have to be cautious of the word " receptive " delay

diagnosed by anyone....if it's not appropriate. Clearly with

aphasia however -it is probable to be appropriate if one has an

impairment to comprehend words -but again apashia and apraxia are

not one in the same.

" a•pha•sia (uh-fay'-zhuh) n. An impairment of the ability to use or

comprehend words, usually acquired as a result of a stroke or other

brain injury. "

http://www.aphasia.org/

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Apraxia is not a receptive nor cognitive condition -it's a motor planning

disorder (there's one Q and A that's agreed on by all right?!)

Thanks for the clarification of apraxia/dyspraxia. I'm in the UK so I will say

Dyspraxia - though what's in a name!

My deaf son is in school with another 2-3 deaf children with diagnosed Dyspraxia

but their language is so much more developed than his, though not always very

clear.

Rory's receptive language is leaps ahead of his expressive but I feel he is

often just picking up on key words rather than the 'sentence' or word group. I'm

concerned that in addition to his dyspraxia that he has a receptive language

issue too. I've ordered your book but I wonder if I need to be looking somewhere

else for more on receptive issues. Any ideas?

FYI the deafness is obviously an issue but he has an implant and uses his

hearing quite well so I am 'ignoring' the deafness for the moment as I try to

track down more information.

Thanks for this group. it's excellent and has given me hope for my darling boy.

UK mummy to 8 and Rory 6 both deaf.

.

[Guest guest]

Teddy, " dysphasia " would be an example of the diagnosis where Dr. M

Agin uses the diagnosis mixed receptive-expressive language disorder

instead. Like apraxia and dyspraxia -aphasia and dysphasia mean the

same thing.

mixed receptive-expressive language disorder

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001545.htm

" Sometimes aphasia is called dysphasia.

What's the difference?

In the dictionary, aphasia and dysphasia have different meanings:

aphasia means 'total inability to communicate'

dysphasia means 'impaired ability to communicate'

But aphasia and dysphasia are generally used to mean the same thing:

'difficulty with spoken and written communication following injury

to the brain'.

On this website, we use the term aphasia. "

http://www.aphasiahelp.org/information/aphasia/11_aphasiadysphasia/

Expressive Language Disorder 315.31

Expressive Language Disorder-dysphasia/aphasia

Criteria:

A. The scores obtained from standardized individually

administered measures of expressive language development are

substantially below those obtained from standardized measures of

both nonverbal intelligence and receptive language development. The

disturbance may be manifest clinically by symptoms that include

having a markedly limited vocabulary, making errors in tense, or

having difficulty recalling words or producing sentences with

developmentally appropriate length or complexity.

B. The difficulties with expressive language interfere with

academic or occupational achievement or with social communication.

C. Criteria are not met for Mixed Receptive-Expressive Language

Disorder or a Pervasive Developmental Disorder

D. If Mental Retardation, a speech-motor or sensory deficit, or

environmental deprivation is present, the language difficulties are

in excess of those usually associated with these problems.

E. If a speech-motor or sensory deficit is present, code the

condition on Axis III

http://bama.ua.edu/~jcollier/BSP660_psychopathology_in_childhood-part_1.html

And a good parent friendly post from from this group who runs

the Late Talker group

" Hi Everyone, it has been a long time since I posted here. I am

still catching up ! I wanted to post below language gaining therapy

and support between parents to continue therapy at home. As we all

know, language gaining therapy is often difficult to get through

insurance and school systems without often incorrect diagnosis such

as " PDD " and issues other than actual speech disorders.

Mixed receptive/expressive language disorder is a specific speech

disorder mentioned in the DSM IV Diagnostic Statistical Manual.

Also mentioned is expressive language disorder. Expressive is

without receptive language problems on a clinical level.

When there are not muscle or phonological issues behind the speech

issues ( muscle difficulties) speech disorders can fall under this

category.

Children who have receptive language issues *need* specific therapy

to gain language. This would be a different therapy than treating

muscle development.

If you feel your child might fall under this category there are

therapies parents can do with their children.

Children can also fall under both categories.

And children can be non-clinical and late blooming.

In any case, the links for enrichening language below , can be

essential for any child.

As with Apraxia, children can be misdiagnosed with other issues such

as cognitivelly challenged because innapropriate testing being used.

Hope this helps a little .

[http://www.geocities.com/speppera/Speechenrichment.htm help for

mixed receptive language disorder - teaching language ]

[ http://www.geocities.com/speppera/CamarataArticle.htm Article

assessing language disorder in toddlers ]

[NaturalLateTalkers/ Support

Group Mixed Receptive Language Disorder ]

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