Re: is there such a thing as too much fish oil?

[Guest guest]

I would love to hear responses to his as well, as my 24 month old has just

started Pro EFA (complete 3, 6, 9 is same thing and available at local whole

foods store) He is about 33 pounds. We have only been giving the oil from one

capsule once per day.

[ ] is there such a thing as too much fish oil?

We've recently (2-3 weeks ago) upped our son's intake of fish oils, but as I

fly through the bottles and hurry to order new ones, I'm wondering whether

there's such a thing as too much.

weighs 26 lbs and is 2.5 yrs old. We currently give him one full

teaspoon (equivalent of 2 doses in capsuls) of Pro-EFA plus one half teaspoon

(equiv of 2 doses) of Pro-EPA in the morning, and then the same in the evening.

He is tolerating these well. I can't say whether his " bumps " in signing and

engagement are due to this or to his therapies, but he is making gains.

But - are we overdosing him in fish oil? Is there even such a thing as too

much? This is double what I know many people give, so want to make sure it's OK

before I keep loading him up (and spending a fortune - he won't take capsuls or

drink juice so we have to administrater liquid by syringe).

Thanks so much,

(mom of , 2.5, apraxia, hypotonia, dev delays)

[Guest guest]

I've been giving that dose 3 times a day for over a year now. Fish

oil is safe. Hard to overdue it. However I have learned that there

are probably other components missing for our kids to responde to

such high doses. Vitamin E is definitely one of them. Without

sufficient vit E...the omegas get rapidly destroyed. You may want to

consider adding vit E.

alpha-d-tocopherol (not alpha " dl " tocopherol) 400-1200 iu a day

gamma 200-400 mg/day.

You can start with 400 iu a day and see if there's a difference.

Then add gamma, and increase the dose. -

> I would love to hear responses to his as well, as my 24 month old

has just started Pro EFA (complete 3, 6, 9 is same thing and

available at local whole foods store) He is about 33 pounds. We

have only been giving the oil from one capsule once per day.

> [ ] is there such a thing as too much

fish oil?

>

>

> We've recently (2-3 weeks ago) upped our son's intake of fish

oils, but as I fly through the bottles and hurry to order new ones,

I'm wondering whether there's such a thing as too much.

>

> weighs 26 lbs and is 2.5 yrs old. We currently give him one

full teaspoon (equivalent of 2 doses in capsuls) of Pro-EFA plus one

half teaspoon (equiv of 2 doses) of Pro-EPA in the morning, and then

the same in the evening. He is tolerating these well. I can't say

whether his " bumps " in signing and engagement are due to this or to

his therapies, but he is making gains.

>

> But - are we overdosing him in fish oil? Is there even such a

thing as too much? This is double what I know many people give, so

want to make sure it's OK before I keep loading him up (and spending

a fortune - he won't take capsuls or drink juice so we have to

administrater liquid by syringe).

>

> Thanks so much,

> (mom of , 2.5, apraxia, hypotonia, dev delays)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just read The LCP Solution and they reccommend starting with 480 milligrams

ofDHA a dya. (pg 135).

Sharon

Tiana Irvin <tianairvin@...> wrote:

I would love to hear responses to his as well, as my 24 month old has

just started Pro EFA (complete 3, 6, 9 is same thing and available at local

whole foods store) He is about 33 pounds. We have only been giving the oil from

one capsule once per day.

[ ] is there such a thing as too much fish oil?

We've recently (2-3 weeks ago) upped our son's intake of fish oils, but as I fly

through the bottles and hurry to order new ones, I'm wondering whether there's

such a thing as too much.

weighs 26 lbs and is 2.5 yrs old. We currently give him one full teaspoon

(equivalent of 2 doses in capsuls) of Pro-EFA plus one half teaspoon (equiv of 2

doses) of Pro-EPA in the morning, and then the same in the evening. He is

tolerating these well. I can't say whether his " bumps " in signing and engagement

are due to this or to his therapies, but he is making gains.

But - are we overdosing him in fish oil? Is there even such a thing as too much?

This is double what I know many people give, so want to make sure it's OK before

I keep loading him up (and spending a fortune - he won't take capsuls or drink

juice so we have to administrater liquid by syringe).

Thanks so much,

(mom of , 2.5, apraxia, hypotonia, dev delays)

[Guest guest]

Hi, I hope this helps. Suzanne

Here is a post from , post no. 53861:

The reason no one has heard about vit E and apraxia is because my

son was the first to benefit from this discovery...and it was the

combination of mom with apraxic child...watching all his

neurological deficits and trying to find the pieces of the puzzle to

explain his condition. I don't expect that you will hear about this

anywhere else until I get around to publishing a case report...and

we find funding to do a proper study.

Regarding fish oil. FISH OIL IS SAFE!!! It is terrible that

even " knowledgable " people give out misinformation. A can of

sardines has > 6 grams of omegas (and most will boast this fact on

the label). Would the nutritionalist warn against sardines?

Where is the fear of fatty fried fast food? Mcs and Burger

King are household terms. There is danger in all the " bad fat " .

The fear is totally misplaced. We should be more worried about a

society of children on ritalin...given the good support in the

literature that omega 3 supplements may be just as effective for

some kids with ADHD.

If you are seeing a benefit with fish oil, don't worry about it. And

safe levels for vitamin E are as high as 1 gram (1500 iu). Our

children ARE DIFFERENT. Not only are these supplements good for the

heart, but it appears they are good for the brain. For whatever

reason our children's brains respond to these supplements. For

whatever reason, my son had neurological symptoms that completely

overlapped disease conditions of severe vitamin E deficiency. Now

treated with high dose vit E/omega 3...he is a totally normal little

guy - once severely apraxic...completely unintellibile and totally

uncoordinated just 1 year ago. Things are so different now. It is

just so frustrating to see all this misinformation

circulated...scaring parents away from totally benign interventions

that could significantly help their children.

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[childrensapraxiane t] is there such a thing as too much fish oil?

We've recently (2-3 weeks ago) upped our son's intake of fish oils, but as I fly

through the bottles and hurry to order new ones, I'm wondering whether there's

such a thing as too much.

weighs 26 lbs and is 2.5 yrs old. We currently give him one full teaspoon

(equivalent of 2 doses in capsuls) of Pro-EFA plus one half teaspoon (equiv of 2

doses) of Pro-EPA in the morning, and then the same in the evening. He is

tolerating these well. I can't say whether his " bumps " in signing and engagement

are due to this or to his therapies, but he is making gains.

But - are we overdosing him in fish oil? Is there even such a thing as too much?

This is double what I know many people give, so want to make sure it's OK before

I keep loading him up (and spending a fortune - he won't take capsuls or drink

juice so we have to administrater liquid by syringe).

Thanks so much,

(mom of , 2.5, apraxia, hypotonia, dev delays)

[Guest guest]

what brand/dosage of vit e did you find helpful? thanks, tiana

[Guest guest]

Did you increase with the same 2/1 ratio? Each of us knows what is

best for our own child. For example when I first saw the surges on

the higher EPA -I continued to raise the EPA and found a regression

with 1/1 ratio. Now my ADHD son needs the higher amount of EPA. You

just need to use what works for your child.

My son is kind of typical in that he responds best to the 2/1 ratio.

I only (if you can say only to this) have Tanner on 4 ProEFA and 2

ProEPA capsules a day -plus he gets 4 vitamin E...if you can imagine

my child counts the capsules and he refuses to go higher. I honestly

can't recall if we ever went higher for him then the 6 a day -but

know my other son Dakota is on 10 EFA capsules a day 5 ProEFA and 5

PRoEPA and with that he doesn't present as ADHD.

Here's an archive about this same subject from earlier this month you

might have missed (yes this does come up often!)

Re: Is it possible to give TOO MUCH omega oils?

9 capsules a day does sound high...until you start reading about

research done. Most is done at much higher levels. Actually the

first time I took more than 2 capsules was while reading The Omega 3

Connection by Dr. Stoll and learning how much Eskimos consumed in

fish oil daily! Even way back when I first put Tanner on an Omega

3/6 product called Efalex the dosage back then in 1999 was " 2-3

capsules 2-3 times a day " And look at this study that used 20 grams

a day in regards to the very well published Greenland diet

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1370/is_v20/ai_4473542/pg_3

I am not aware of any studies that show risks of too much fish oil -

and we all look. Dr. Agin and a few families including mine were

interviewed a few years back for a PBS special on Omega 3s and the

director was searching for a negative...and searching.

And we know not everything that is true is published yet. But this

is an uncensored board and as parents and professionals if there were

horror stories, suspicions, or studies- it would be in the archives.

Too much of any oil causes loose stools. Our grandparents

grandparents were raised on spoonfuls of cod liver oil. We know

today that cod liver oil while still healthy is not the oil that

creates the dramatic surges in most of our children. Most of our

children need an Omega 3-6 formula with a small amount of the 6 -and

higher EPA.

A great website for EFA information is http://efaeducation.nih.gov/

And here's info from CHERAB

http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efabasics.html

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes kids regress before they improve. My son stammered for a

while , but it was on his way to improvement- after he stopped

stammering- he was speaking much better, without any steping up- it

was like an instant leap.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I did stay with the 2/1 ratio. In light of the encouraging Vitamin E info,

I am thinking

of trying that again, instead of raising the fish oil (keeping the fish oil, at

the 2/1 ratio, to

twice a day).

My Vitamin E has 200 IU d-Alpha and 200 mg gamma -- as she has been on it before

at 2

a day, I am thinking of trying 3 a day. Does that seem reasonable to start?

As I've said before, I have not noticed a positive change with the Vitamin E yet

(except

when we used the Yasoo Liquid -- which said not to continue, darn it

--on that

we had amazing results).

>

> Did you increase with the same 2/1 ratio? Each of us knows what is

> best for our own child. For example when I first saw the surges on

> the higher EPA -I continued to raise the EPA and found a regression

> with 1/1 ratio. Now my ADHD son needs the higher amount of EPA. You

> just need to use what works for your child.

>

> My son is kind of typical in that he responds best to the 2/1 ratio.

>

> I only (if you can say only to this) have Tanner on 4 ProEFA and 2

> ProEPA capsules a day -plus he gets 4 vitamin E...if you can imagine

> my child counts the capsules and he refuses to go higher. I honestly

> can't recall if we ever went higher for him then the 6 a day -but

> know my other son Dakota is on 10 EFA capsules a day 5 ProEFA and 5

> PRoEPA and with that he doesn't present as ADHD.

>

> Here's an archive about this same subject from earlier this month you

> might have missed (yes this does come up often!)

>

> Re: Is it possible to give TOO MUCH omega oils?

>

> 9 capsules a day does sound high...until you start reading about

> research done. Most is done at much higher levels. Actually the

> first time I took more than 2 capsules was while reading The Omega 3

> Connection by Dr. Stoll and learning how much Eskimos consumed in

> fish oil daily! Even way back when I first put Tanner on an Omega

> 3/6 product called Efalex the dosage back then in 1999 was " 2-3

> capsules 2-3 times a day " And look at this study that used 20 grams

> a day in regards to the very well published Greenland diet

> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1370/is_v20/ai_4473542/pg_3

>

> I am not aware of any studies that show risks of too much fish oil -

> and we all look. Dr. Agin and a few families including mine were

> interviewed a few years back for a PBS special on Omega 3s and the

> director was searching for a negative...and searching.

>

> And we know not everything that is true is published yet. But this

> is an uncensored board and as parents and professionals if there were

> horror stories, suspicions, or studies- it would be in the archives.

> Too much of any oil causes loose stools. Our grandparents

> grandparents were raised on spoonfuls of cod liver oil. We know

> today that cod liver oil while still healthy is not the oil that

> creates the dramatic surges in most of our children. Most of our

> children need an Omega 3-6 formula with a small amount of the 6 -and

> higher EPA.

>

> A great website for EFA information is http://efaeducation.nih.gov/

> And here's info from CHERAB

> http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efabasics.html

>

>

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