Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 I don't know if this will give anyone hope, a laugh or both but I am offering it with only good intentions in mind. Since starting this journey I have " diagnosed " many in my circle and they all drive. Here they are: Son's speech therapist (I know, ironic isn't it). She is an nice person, socially awkward, a poor driver with vision problems that make her seem " out of it. " In truth she is very intelligent and highly educated. A college friend who reminds me so much of son's speech therapist they could be twins. She is a writer by profession and exceptional at it. She is not very coordinated. Husband's cousin. He is very good-looking and seems quiet. In truth he is highly intelligent, a great artist, engaged in lots of phyical activity as a kid so has no obvious tone issues but it a poor driver. After knowing him for 20 years it seems he is not quiet at all...just collecting his thoughts. When he does have a lot to say somethimes he stammers initially to start speaking. My husband is slightly dyspraxic. He has the collecting his thoughts thing going on. He has had tone issues throughout life that remained unrecognized because he is not overweight (something that helps the professionals see it). He did have a lisp as a kid. He is very intelligent. (except when he does not initially agree with me on the stuff with the kids but he does come around in the end. Lastly, I offer a description of my husband to a good friend of ours and how some of his history relates to son and daughter (without speech issues) malabsorption problems. I truly believe: 1) we are all a little dyspraxic but it is only recognized in severe cases by people who really know it 2) the gut is behind all of it and 3) healing the gut and boosting the immune system are key to helping our kids and too good health for everyone, dyspraxic or not and lastly 4) These kids are smart and we must never underestimate them! Just my 2 cents. Here is the description: Husband's mom nursed him (may have supplemented, not sure). The pediatrician was yelling at her because he never weighed enough. Later as a kid he had a weight problem likely because she stuffed him. She did always feed him as a baby and was always upset when the dr. would yell. The thing is he threw up a lot and was very colicky like (can you say malabsorption, GERD, food allergy?to either formula, milk or something she ate) He is bow legged which happens when kids get rickets, a disease normally seen in 3 rd world countries in children with severe vitamin D deficiencies. Daughter has a vitamin D deficiency that is part of her malabsorption issue (not coming from me here but the CHOP gastro). This may mean celiac or generalized malabsorption. Son's current diet is getting better and better. One poop a day, does not smell and he is more alert and speaking more. Daughter still is irritable at times that do not make sense and she is constipated. She is also less cooperative in trying new stuff so it may take longer to figure out and I very well may let them scope her, not just for celiac, but first we try the diet (I may bring back milk and work on variety but gluten remains out) and the bloodwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 As time goes on it is becoming more and more obvious to me and to those that know me that many of my " issues " as a kid were dyspraxic. My daughter's neurologist recently surveyed many parents of apraxic children. He had me fill it out and got quite a kick out of my answers. One thing that keeps coming to mind as a one of many perfect examples is learning to drive. Now...I think I'm a pretty good driver now... just ask me! But, it took me over 2 years to learn to drive. That's 2 years of practicing for several days a week. My mother and stepfather both worked for the DMV. It didn't matter, not even they could get the job done. My mother gave up trying to teach me to drive after several months and stepfather took over. I was so hacked that they wouldn't let me go and take my driving test but I had had so many " near misses " during my driving lessons and just seemed to have no sense of distance, spatial concepts needed, etc. My mother tells stories to this day about the " events " of trying to teach me to drive and I'm 39 years old. After 2 years they let me finally go and take the test, and I did pass. Barely. But that began the long journey of all of my near misses and fender benders. It was another ten years or more before I stopped being a menace to society when I was behind the wheel of a car. There are some driving things I still can't do and won't even try (parallel parking, driving through a tight area, backing out of parking spaces in a small parking lot... I will actually wait until some folks come out and move!). I was thinking about this driving thing the other day and I think I'm going to start saving up money to pay someone else to teach my daughter to drive. If it took me 2 years it just might take her 4. Kris The Knitting Wannabe http://knittingwannabe.typepad.com Sonny & Shear: The I’ve Got Ewe, Babe Yarn Shop http://www.sonnyandshear.com On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Liz wrote: > I don't know if this will give anyone hope, a laugh or both but I am > offering it with only good intentions in mind. Since starting this > journey I have " diagnosed " many in my circle and they all drive. Here > they are: > > Son's speech therapist (I know, ironic isn't it). She is an nice > person, > socially awkward, a poor driver with vision problems that make her > seem > " out of it. " In truth she is very intelligent and highly educated. > A college friend who reminds me so much of son's speech therapist they > could be twins. She is a writer by profession and exceptional at > it. She > is not very coordinated. > Husband's cousin. He is very good-looking and seems quiet. In truth he > is highly intelligent, a great artist, engaged in lots of phyical > activity as a kid so has no obvious tone issues but it a poor driver. > After knowing him for 20 years it seems he is not quiet at all...just > collecting his thoughts. When he does have a lot to say somethimes he > stammers initially to start speaking. > My husband is slightly dyspraxic. He has the collecting his thoughts > thing going on. He has had tone issues throughout life that remained > unrecognized because he is not overweight (something that helps the > professionals see it). He did have a lisp as a kid. He is very > intelligent. (except when he does not initially agree with me on the > stuff with the kids but he does come around in the end. > > Lastly, I offer a description of my husband to a good friend of > ours and > how some of his history relates to son and daughter (without speech > issues) malabsorption problems. I truly believe: 1) we are all a > little > dyspraxic but it is only recognized in severe cases by people who > really > know it 2) the gut is behind all of it and 3) healing the gut and > boosting the immune system are key to helping our kids and too good > health for everyone, dyspraxic or not and lastly 4) These kids are > smart > and we must never underestimate them! > > Just my 2 cents. Here is the description: > > Husband's mom nursed him (may have supplemented, not sure). The > pediatrician was yelling at her because he never weighed enough. Later > as a kid he had a weight problem likely because she stuffed him. > She did > always feed him as a baby and was always upset when the dr. would > yell. > The thing is he threw up a lot and was very colicky like (can > you say malabsorption, GERD, food allergy?to either formula, milk or > something she ate) He is bow legged which happens when kids get > rickets, > a disease normally seen in 3 rd world countries in children with > severe > vitamin D deficiencies. Daughter has a vitamin D deficiency that is > part > of her malabsorption issue (not coming from me here but the CHOP > gastro). This may mean celiac or generalized malabsorption. Son's > current diet is getting better and better. One poop a day, does not > smell and he is more alert and speaking more. Daughter still is > irritable at times that do not make sense and she is constipated. > She is > also less cooperative in trying new stuff so it may take longer to > figure out and I very well may let them scope her, not just for > celiac, > but first we try the diet (I may bring back milk and work on > variety but > gluten remains out) and the bloodwork. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 I so wish I could get a copy of that questionnaire and the " answer key " that gives them insight. Haukoos wrote: >As time goes on it is becoming more and more obvious to me and to >those that know me that many of my " issues " as a kid were dyspraxic. >My daughter's neurologist recently surveyed many parents of apraxic >children. He had me fill it out and got quite a kick out of my >answers. One thing that keeps coming to mind as a one of many >perfect examples is learning to drive. > >Now...I think I'm a pretty good driver now... just ask me! But, it >took me over 2 years to learn to drive. That's 2 years of practicing >for several days a week. My mother and stepfather both worked for >the DMV. It didn't matter, not even they could get the job done. My >mother gave up trying to teach me to drive after several months and >stepfather took over. I was so hacked that they wouldn't let me go >and take my driving test but I had had so many " near misses " during >my driving lessons and just seemed to have no sense of distance, >spatial concepts needed, etc. My mother tells stories to this day >about the " events " of trying to teach me to drive and I'm 39 years old. >After 2 years they let me finally go and take the test, and I did >pass. Barely. But that began the long journey of all of my near >misses and fender benders. It was another ten years or more before >I stopped being a menace to society when I was behind the wheel of a >car. There are some driving things I still can't do and won't even >try (parallel parking, driving through a tight area, backing out of >parking spaces in a small parking lot... I will actually wait until >some folks come out and move!). > >I was thinking about this driving thing the other day and I think I'm >going to start saving up money to pay someone else to teach my >daughter to drive. If it took me 2 years it just might take her 4. > >Kris > >The Knitting Wannabe http://knittingwannabe.typepad.com > >Sonny & Shear: The I’ve Got Ewe, Babe Yarn Shop >http://www.sonnyandshear.com > > > > >On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Liz wrote: > > > >>I don't know if this will give anyone hope, a laugh or both but I am >>offering it with only good intentions in mind. Since starting this >>journey I have " diagnosed " many in my circle and they all drive. Here >>they are: >> >>Son's speech therapist (I know, ironic isn't it). She is an nice >>person, >>socially awkward, a poor driver with vision problems that make her >>seem >> " out of it. " In truth she is very intelligent and highly educated. >>A college friend who reminds me so much of son's speech therapist they >>could be twins. She is a writer by profession and exceptional at >>it. She >>is not very coordinated. >>Husband's cousin. He is very good-looking and seems quiet. In truth he >>is highly intelligent, a great artist, engaged in lots of phyical >>activity as a kid so has no obvious tone issues but it a poor driver. >>After knowing him for 20 years it seems he is not quiet at all...just >>collecting his thoughts. When he does have a lot to say somethimes he >>stammers initially to start speaking. >>My husband is slightly dyspraxic. He has the collecting his thoughts >>thing going on. He has had tone issues throughout life that remained >>unrecognized because he is not overweight (something that helps the >>professionals see it). He did have a lisp as a kid. He is very >>intelligent. (except when he does not initially agree with me on the >>stuff with the kids but he does come around in the end. >> >>Lastly, I offer a description of my husband to a good friend of >>ours and >>how some of his history relates to son and daughter (without speech >>issues) malabsorption problems. I truly believe: 1) we are all a >>little >>dyspraxic but it is only recognized in severe cases by people who >>really >>know it 2) the gut is behind all of it and 3) healing the gut and >>boosting the immune system are key to helping our kids and too good >>health for everyone, dyspraxic or not and lastly 4) These kids are >>smart >>and we must never underestimate them! >> >>Just my 2 cents. Here is the description: >> >>Husband's mom nursed him (may have supplemented, not sure). The >>pediatrician was yelling at her because he never weighed enough. Later >>as a kid he had a weight problem likely because she stuffed him. >>She did >>always feed him as a baby and was always upset when the dr. would >>yell. >>The thing is he threw up a lot and was very colicky like (can >>you say malabsorption, GERD, food allergy?to either formula, milk or >>something she ate) He is bow legged which happens when kids get >>rickets, >>a disease normally seen in 3 rd world countries in children with >>severe >>vitamin D deficiencies. Daughter has a vitamin D deficiency that is >>part >>of her malabsorption issue (not coming from me here but the CHOP >>gastro). This may mean celiac or generalized malabsorption. Son's >>current diet is getting better and better. One poop a day, does not >>smell and he is more alert and speaking more. Daughter still is >>irritable at times that do not make sense and she is constipated. >>She is >>also less cooperative in trying new stuff so it may take longer to >>figure out and I very well may let them scope her, not just for >>celiac, >>but first we try the diet (I may bring back milk and work on >>variety but >>gluten remains out) and the bloodwork. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Okay.... now you're scaring me! Question: Could you ride a bike? Am I deluding myself in thinking that good bike riding skills will help with driving? Mark does some pretty mean mountain biking and rides the trails. I worry he's going to break his neck but we've only ended up 'wounded' with cuts and scrapes so far. Think this will help for driving? He rides that bike everyday. It's his transportation to his beloved 'buddies' houses. Janice Re: [ ] Driving and Dyspraxia As time goes on it is becoming more and more obvious to me and to those that know me that many of my " issues " as a kid were dyspraxic. My daughter's neurologist recently surveyed many parents of apraxic children. He had me fill it out and got quite a kick out of my answers. One thing that keeps coming to mind as a one of many perfect examples is learning to drive. Now...I think I'm a pretty good driver now... just ask me! But, it took me over 2 years to learn to drive. That's 2 years of practicing for several days a week. My mother and stepfather both worked for the DMV. It didn't matter, not even they could get the job done. My mother gave up trying to teach me to drive after several months and stepfather took over. I was so hacked that they wouldn't let me go and take my driving test but I had had so many " near misses " during my driving lessons and just seemed to have no sense of distance, spatial concepts needed, etc. My mother tells stories to this day about the " events " of trying to teach me to drive and I'm 39 years old. After 2 years they let me finally go and take the test, and I did pass. Barely. But that began the long journey of all of my near misses and fender benders. It was another ten years or more before I stopped being a menace to society when I was behind the wheel of a car. There are some driving things I still can't do and won't even try (parallel parking, driving through a tight area, backing out of parking spaces in a small parking lot... I will actually wait until some folks come out and move!). I was thinking about this driving thing the other day and I think I'm going to start saving up money to pay someone else to teach my daughter to drive. If it took me 2 years it just might take her 4. Kris The Knitting Wannabe http://knittingwannabe.typepad.com Sonny & Shear: The I've Got Ewe, Babe Yarn Shop http://www.sonnyandshear.com On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Liz wrote: > I don't know if this will give anyone hope, a laugh or both but I am > offering it with only good intentions in mind. Since starting this > journey I have " diagnosed " many in my circle and they all drive. Here > they are: > > Son's speech therapist (I know, ironic isn't it). She is an nice > person, > socially awkward, a poor driver with vision problems that make her > seem > " out of it. " In truth she is very intelligent and highly educated. > A college friend who reminds me so much of son's speech therapist they > could be twins. She is a writer by profession and exceptional at > it. She > is not very coordinated. > Husband's cousin. He is very good-looking and seems quiet. In truth he > is highly intelligent, a great artist, engaged in lots of phyical > activity as a kid so has no obvious tone issues but it a poor driver. > After knowing him for 20 years it seems he is not quiet at all...just > collecting his thoughts. When he does have a lot to say somethimes he > stammers initially to start speaking. > My husband is slightly dyspraxic. He has the collecting his thoughts > thing going on. He has had tone issues throughout life that remained > unrecognized because he is not overweight (something that helps the > professionals see it). He did have a lisp as a kid. He is very > intelligent. (except when he does not initially agree with me on the > stuff with the kids but he does come around in the end. > > Lastly, I offer a description of my husband to a good friend of > ours and > how some of his history relates to son and daughter (without speech > issues) malabsorption problems. I truly believe: 1) we are all a > little > dyspraxic but it is only recognized in severe cases by people who > really > know it 2) the gut is behind all of it and 3) healing the gut and > boosting the immune system are key to helping our kids and too good > health for everyone, dyspraxic or not and lastly 4) These kids are > smart > and we must never underestimate them! > > Just my 2 cents. Here is the description: > > Husband's mom nursed him (may have supplemented, not sure). The > pediatrician was yelling at her because he never weighed enough. Later > as a kid he had a weight problem likely because she stuffed him. > She did > always feed him as a baby and was always upset when the dr. would > yell. > The thing is he threw up a lot and was very colicky like (can > you say malabsorption, GERD, food allergy?to either formula, milk or > something she ate) He is bow legged which happens when kids get > rickets, > a disease normally seen in 3 rd world countries in children with > severe > vitamin D deficiencies. Daughter has a vitamin D deficiency that is > part > of her malabsorption issue (not coming from me here but the CHOP > gastro). This may mean celiac or generalized malabsorption. Son's > current diet is getting better and better. One poop a day, does not > smell and he is more alert and speaking more. Daughter still is > irritable at times that do not make sense and she is constipated. > She is > also less cooperative in trying new stuff so it may take longer to > figure out and I very well may let them scope her, not just for > celiac, > but first we try the diet (I may bring back milk and work on > variety but > gluten remains out) and the bloodwork. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Honestly Janice, I am not Kris but he will be fine driving unless they have much higher standards in Canada in te U.S. I firmly believe dyspraxia is far bigger than its current diagnostic criterion. I think dyspraxic kids simply show the most obvious sign of what I believe to be a much more involved thing. Think about people you know who speak fine but have poor periferal vision, seem almost flighty but are extremely good at what they do..I think that too is dyspraxia without the major speech deficit. I think the stuff you have done with your son, particularly skiing and biking, will allow him to be a better than average driver. Do not second-guess yourself. You are my hope so don't take that away datn it! Janice wrote: >Okay.... now you're scaring me! Question: Could you ride a bike? Am I >deluding myself in thinking that good bike riding skills will help with >driving? Mark does some pretty mean mountain biking and rides the trails. >I worry he's going to break his neck but we've only ended up 'wounded' with >cuts and scrapes so far. > >Think this will help for driving? He rides that bike everyday. It's his >transportation to his beloved 'buddies' houses. > >Janice > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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