Re: NIACIN (B3)

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I am trialing " black seed oil " . Took my first

yesterday. Comes from Egypt or somewhere.

I have really strong cleansing going on and

already have more energy and better function,

really clear mind this a.m. Stout, kind of

hard flavor to get down, but seems to work

really well.

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Can you tell me where I can get info on Dr. Kenner's protocol?

Thank you

Tina

[Guest guest]

Absolutely YES, B vitamins are water soluble and can be taken more than once a day. THere is a group called Orthomolecular that can provide you with more info. No doubt several there will be thrilled to learn of your response to Niacin.

Other water soluble nutrients are vitamin C and Magnesium.

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Posted by: "jro160" roddenreal@... jro160

Mon Oct 2, 2006 6:47 am (PST)

Hi, I read what was posted about niacin last week. So, Friday I took 100mg. I had the flush, itching and nausea. But, after a few minutes I wasable to walk better! I got in the shower and was able to step out of thetub when I was finished. Usually I have to sit down and swing my legsover the side of the tub. Then I was able to stand while I dried myhair. I have been sitting with my hair dryer for years! I told myhusband about the niacin and he looked at me like I was a bit crazy.Today he was home when I took it. This time I took 50mg and had the sameflush and itching but no nausea. I told my husband to watch me walk upthe steps. I walked almost normally. Usually my legs swing around tomake it to the next step. His words "Holy S___". I don't know why itworks but I am going to continue using it. It does not last very long soI wonder if I can take it 2 or 3 times per day. Anybody know?

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Are you referring to Nigella? Also sometimes called Black cumin?

What is the brand of the product you are taking and what does the Ingredients panel say?

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Posted by: "nstubbs1@..." nstubbs1@...

Mon Oct 2, 2006 8:14 am (PST)

I am trialing "black seed oil". Took my firstyesterday. Comes from Egypt or somewhere. I have really strong cleansing going on andalready have more energy and better function,really clear mind this a.m. Stout, kind ofhard flavor to get down, but seems to workreally well.

[Guest guest]

People with ms typically have poor circulation. Niacin aids circulation. Look up Dr. Klenner's protocol for ms. He states a niacin flush daily is crucial at stabilizing the condition . Best, Kathy

[low dose naltrexone] NIACIN (B3)

Hi,

I read what was posted about niacin last week.

So, Friday I took 100 mg. I had the flush, itching

and nausea. But, after a few minutes I was able to

walk better! I got in the shower and was able to step

out of the tub when I was finished. Usually I have to sit down and swing my legs over the side of the tub. Then I was able to stand while I dried my hair. I have been sitting with my hair dryer for years!

I told my husband about the niacin and he looked at me like I was a bit crazy. Today he was home when I took it. This time I took 50mg and had the same flush and itching but no nausea. I told my husband to watch me walk up the steps. I walked almost normally. Usually my legs swing around to make it to the next step. His words "Holy S___".

I don't know why it works but I am going to continue using it. It does not last very long so I wonder if I can take it 2 or 3 times per day. Anybody know?

[Guest guest]

The Brewer Science Library has a back newsletter which is very informative. They can be reached at 608-647-6513 or drbrewer@... Best, Kathy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] NIACIN (B3)

Kathy, Can you tell me where I can get info on Dr. Kenner's protocol? Thank you Tina

[Guest guest]

>

> People with ms typically have poor circulation. Niacin aids

circulation. Look up Dr. Klenner's protocol for ms. He states a

niacin flush daily is crucial at stabilizing the condition . Best,

Kathy

> [low dose naltrexone] NIACIN (B3)

>

>

>

> Hi,

> I read what was posted about niacin last week.

> So, Friday I took 100 mg. I had the flush, itching

> and nausea. But, after a few minutes I was able to

> walk better! I got in the shower and was able to step

> out of the tub when I was finished. Usually I have to sit down

and swing my legs over the side of the tub. Then I was able to stand

while I dried my hair. I have been sitting with my hair dryer for

years!

> I told my husband about the niacin and he looked at me like I

was a bit crazy. Today he was home when I took it. This time I took

50mg and had the same flush and itching but no nausea. I told my

husband to watch me walk up the steps. I walked almost normally.

Usually my legs swing around to make it to the next step. His

words " Holy S___ " .

> I don't know why it works but I am going to continue using it.

It does not last very long so I wonder if I can take it 2 or 3 times

per day. Anybody know?

>

>

HI-CAN-SOMEONE-PLEASE-HELP-ME-2-GET-INFO-ON-NIACIN-B3-AND-WERE-I-CAN-

GET-NIACIN-B3.IT-SOUNDS-SO-GOOD,-TO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE.-TY-FOR-YOUR-

TIME-MONICA-FROM-DOWNUNDER.-:-]

[Guest guest]

In the USA, we can buy Niacin (vitamin B3) and many other vitamins and minerals in our supermarkets.

mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

HI-CAN-SOMEONE-PLEASE-HELP-ME-2-GET-INFO-ON-NIACIN-B3-AND-WERE-I-CAN-GET-NIACIN-B3.IT-SOUNDS-SO-GOOD,-TO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE.-TY-FOR-YOUR-TIME-MONICA-FROM-DOWNUNDER.-:-]

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ok,thank-u-for-your-info.foxhillers@... wrote: In the USA, we can buy Niacin (vitamin B3) and many other vitamins and minerals in our supermarkets. mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ HI-CAN-SOMEONE-PLEASE-HELP-ME-2-GET-INFO-ON-NIACIN-B3-AND-WERE-I-CAN-GET-NIACIN-B3.IT-SOUNDS-SO-GOOD,-TO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE.-TY-FOR-YOUR-TIME-MONICA-FROM-DOWNUNDER.-:-]

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here is some info on niacin. please make sure you don't take the flush =free kind. cyndiNiacin,Niacin (Vitamin B3): This vitamin is also found to be effective in some individuals. The necessary dose is 500 mg taken three times daily with food. It must be taken with a daily dose of vitamin B complex to be fully effective. Vitamin B complex is considered to be an essential routine vitamin for use in the treatment of MS. Niacin may cause uncomfortable skin flushing in some individuals. A non-flush preparation is however available but is more expensive than the basic vitamin.Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=show & pageid=655 The FlushWhen you get that "flush" that means that the small blood vessels in your body are being expanded in size because of the niacin. Many of your small blood vessels, called "capillaries" are so small that blood cells can go through them only in single file.  Sometimes, in fact, that small passageway is clogged and blood doesn't get through at all. While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the surface (skin and surface areas) get their ONLY supply of blood (therefore also of oxygen and food!) from these small capillaries. So, if those capillaries are not carrying the blood, then those parts of the body are not getting nourishment and oxygen.  The niacin causes these small capillaries to get larger -- so they might be able to carry two or three blood cells at the same time. This is a tremendous increase in blood flow. You experience this as a reddening of the skin -- simply because there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As this blood flows in these areas the cells of the small capillaries will also be getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce "histamine" as part of that process. That histamine is another natural substance produced by every cell in the body -- when the cell is under attack, or is getting rid of toxins.   Histamine causes an "itchy" feeling.Some tips:  Do NOT take niacin with hot beverages, alcohol or spicy food.  If any problems arise, other than skin flushing or itching, which goes away in 30-60 minutes, consult your health practitioner.    Niacin is inexpensive and available at any health food store. I suggest you begin at 100 mg./day. If you are pregnant it is best to wait until you deliver to begin niacin. Please check your cholesterol and, after taking niacin for 30 days, check it again. Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:http://www.shanti.com.au/cleanses/niacin_flush.htm Karl Loren Website: http://www.oralchelation.com/On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:48 AM, monica wall wrote: ok,thank-u-for-your-info.foxhillers@... wrote: In the USA, we can buy Niacin (vitamin B3) and many other vitamins and minerals in our supermarkets.    mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/   HI-CAN-SOMEONE-PLEASE-HELP-ME-2-GET-INFO-ON-NIACIN-B3-AND-WERE-I-CAN-GET-NIACIN-B3.IT-SOUNDS-SO-GOOD,-TO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE.-TY-FOR-YOUR-TIME-MONICA-FROM-DOWNUNDER.-:-] Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyndi,

Why is it best not to take the flush free kind?

Thanks

Aletha

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: NIACIN (B3)

here is some info on niacin. please make sure you don't take the flush =free kind.

cyndi

Niacin,

Niacin (Vitamin B3): This vitamin is also found to be effective in some individuals. The necessary dose is 500 mg taken three times daily with food. It must be taken with a daily dose of vitamin B complex to be fully effective. Vitamin B complex is considered to be an essential routine vitamin for use in the treatment of MS. Niacin may cause uncomfortable skin flushing in some individuals. A non-flush preparation is however available but is more expensive than the basic vitamin.

Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:

http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=show & pageid=655

The Flush

When you get that "flush" that means that the small blood vessels in your body are being expanded in size because of the niacin. Many of your small blood vessels, called "capillaries" are so small that blood cells can go through them only in single file. Sometimes, in fact, that small passageway is clogged and blood doesn't get through at all.While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the surface (skin and surface areas) get their ONLY supply of blood (therefore also of oxygen and food!) from these small capillaries. So, if those capillaries are not carrying the blood, then those parts of the body are not getting nourishment and oxygen. The niacin causes these small capillaries to get larger -- so they might be able to carry two or three blood cells at the same time. This is a tremendous increase in blood flow.You experience this as a reddening of the skin -- simply because there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As this blood flows in these areas the cells of the small capillaries will also be getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce "histamine" as part of that process. That histamine is another natural substance produced by every cell in the body -- when the cell is under attack, or is getting rid of toxins. Histamine causes an "itchy" feeling.

Some tips:

Do NOT take niacin with hot beverages, alcohol or spicy food.

If any problems arise, other than skin flushing or itching, which goes away in 30-60 minutes, consult your health practitioner.

Niacin is inexpensive and available at any health food store. I suggest you begin at 100 mg./day. If you are pregnant it is best to wait until you deliver to begin niacin. Please check your cholesterol and, after taking niacin for 30 days, check it again.

Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:

http://www.shanti.com.au/cleanses/niacin_flush.htmKarl Loren Website: http://www.oralchelation.com/

On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:48 AM, monica wall wrote:

ok,thank-u-for-your-info.foxhillers@... wrote:

In the USA, we can buy Niacin (vitamin B3) and many other vitamins and minerals in our supermarkets.

mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

HI-CAN-SOMEONE-PLEASE-HELP-ME-2-GET-INFO-ON-NIACIN-B3-AND-WERE-I-CAN-GET-NIACIN-B3.IT-SOUNDS-SO-GOOD,-TO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE.-TY-FOR-YOUR-TIME-MONICA-FROM-DOWNUNDER.-:-]

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we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its Inositol. and Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin sheath.cyndiOn Oct 13, 2006, at 2:02 AM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:Hi Cyndi, Why is it best not to take the flush free kind? ThanksAletha Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: NIACIN (B3)here is some info on niacin. please make sure you don't take the flush =free kind. cyndiNiacin,Niacin (Vitamin B3): This vitamin is also found to be effective in some individuals. The necessary dose is 500 mg taken three times daily with food. It must be taken with a daily dose of vitamin B complex to be fully effective. Vitamin B complex is considered to be an essential routine vitamin for use in the treatment of MS. Niacin may cause uncomfortable skin flushing in some individuals. A non-flush preparation is however available but is more expensive than the basic vitamin.Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=show & pageid=655The FlushWhen you get that "flush" that means that the small blood vessels in your body are being expanded in size because of the niacin. Many of your small blood vessels, called "capillaries" are so small that blood cells can go through them only in single file.  Sometimes, in fact, that small passageway is clogged and blood doesn't get through at all.While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the surface (skin and surface areas) get their ONLY supply of blood (therefore also of oxygen and food!) from these small capillaries. So, if those capillaries are not carrying the blood, then those parts of the body are not getting nourishment and oxygen. The niacin causes these small capillaries to get larger -- so they might be able to carry two or three blood cells at the same time. This is a tremendous increase in blood flow.You experience this as a reddening of the skin -- simply because there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As this blood flows in these areas the cells of the small capillaries will also be getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce "histamine" as part of that process. That histamine is another natural substance produced by every cell in the body -- when the cell is under attack, or is getting rid of toxins.  Histamine causes an "itchy" feeling.Some tips: Do NOT take niacin with hot beverages, alcohol or spicy food. If any problems arise, other than skin flushing or itching, which goes away in 30-60 minutes, consult your health practitioner.   Niacin is inexpensive and available at any health food store. I suggest you begin at 100 mg./day. If you are pregnant it is best to wait until you deliver to begin niacin. Please check your cholesterol and, after taking niacin for 30 days, check it again.Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:http://www.shanti.com.au/cleanses/niacin_flush.htmKarl Loren Website: http://www.oralchelation.com/On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:48 AM, monica wall wrote:ok,thank-u-for-your-info.foxhillers@... wrote:In the USA, we can buy Niacin (vitamin B3) and many other vitamins and minerals in our supermarkets.  mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ HI-CAN-SOMEONE-PLEASE-HELP-ME-2-GET-INFO-ON-NIACIN-B3-AND-WERE-I-CAN-GET-NIACIN-B3.IT-SOUNDS-SO-GOOD,-TO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE.-TY-FOR-YOUR-TIME-MONICA-FROM-DOWNUNDER.-:-]Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyndi,

Very interesting information on Niacin. Do you know why it says to check your

cholesterol before and after taking niacin. Is your cholesterol abt to go

higher or lower? Do you know? Thanks for any input on this as I have been

reading all the post on Niacin. I would like to get on Niacin.

Thanks

Marie

---- Cyndi Lenz <psychrn@...> wrote:

> here is some info on niacin. please make sure you don't take the

> flush =free kind.

> cyndi

> Niacin,

> Niacin (Vitamin B3): This vitamin is also found to be effective in

> some individuals. The necessary dose is 500 mg taken three times

> daily with food. It must be taken with a daily dose of vitamin B

> complex to be fully effective. Vitamin B complex is considered to be

> an essential routine vitamin for use in the treatment of MS. Niacin

> may cause uncomfortable skin flushing in some individuals. A non-

> flush preparation is however available but is more expensive than the

> basic vitamin.

> Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:

> http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=show & pageid=655

>

> The Flush

> When you get that " flush " that means that the small blood vessels in

> your body are being expanded in size because of the niacin. Many of

> your small blood vessels, called " capillaries " are so small that

> blood cells can go through them only in single file.

> Sometimes, in fact, that small passageway is clogged and blood

> doesn't get through at all.

> While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large

> arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the

> surface (skin and surface areas) get their ONLY supply of blood

> (therefore also of oxygen and food!) from these small capillaries.

> So, if those capillaries are not carrying the blood, then those parts

> of the body are not getting nourishment and oxygen.

> The niacin causes these small capillaries to get larger -- so they

> might be able to carry two or three blood cells at the same time.

> This is a tremendous increase in blood flow.

> You experience this as a reddening of the skin -- simply because

> there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As this blood

> flows in these areas the cells of the small capillaries will also be

> getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce

> " histamine " as part of that process. That histamine is another

> natural substance produced by every cell in the body -- when the cell

> is under attack, or is getting rid of toxins.

> Histamine causes an " itchy " feeling.

> Some tips:

> Do NOT take niacin with hot beverages, alcohol or spicy food.

> If any problems arise, other than skin flushing or itching, which

> goes away in 30-60 minutes, consult your health practitioner.

> Niacin is inexpensive and available at any health food store. I

> suggest you begin at 100 mg./day. If you are pregnant it is best to

> wait until you deliver to begin niacin. Please check your cholesterol

> and, after taking niacin for 30 days, check it again.

> Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:

> http://www.shanti.com.au/cleanses/niacin_flush.htm

> Karl Loren Website: http://www.oralchelation.com/

>

> On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:48 AM, monica wall wrote:

>

> > ok,thank-u-for-your-info.

> >

> > foxhillers@... wrote:

> > In the USA, we can buy Niacin (vitamin B3) and many other vitamins

> > and minerals in our supermarkets.

> >

> > mjh

> > " The Basil Book "

> > http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

> >

> > HI-CAN-SOMEONE-PLEASE-HELP-ME-2-GET-INFO-ON-NIACIN-B3-AND-WERE-I-CAN-

> > GET-NIACIN-B3.IT-SOUNDS-SO-GOOD,-TO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE.-TY-FOR-YOUR-

> > TIME-MONICA-FROM-DOWNUNDER.-:-]

> >

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

> > Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

>

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Niacin will help lower cholesterol.

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Posted by: "mardea@..." mardea@...

Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:36 am (PST)

Hi Cyndi,Very interesting information on Niacin. Do you know why it says to check your cholesterol before and after taking niacin. Is your cholesterol abt to go higher or lower? Do you know? Thanks for any input on this as I have been reading all the post on Niacin. I would like to get on Niacin.ThanksMarie

[Guest guest]

we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its Inositol. and Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin sheath.cyndi

Cyndi, can you please give your source for this information? Niacin is generally safe to take if one starts out with 100 mg daily and gradually increases to higher amounts. The 'flush' gradually diminishes as the body gets used to it. The danger of liver toxicity is a great liability with both timed release and regular niacin. It must be taken with the other B vitamins and one should stay within the range of 500 mg of niacin a day unless under a Dr.'s care. Inositol is a vita-nutrient naturally found in human breast milk for the healthy development of babies and is a relative of the B-complex. The inositol hexanicotinate form of niacin is not exactly a timed-release formula. It is made up of 6 molecules of nicotinic acid and one molecule of inositol which enables the body to slowly metabolize the compound. Thus making it safer and virtually free of side effects at much higher doses than niacin. I think one of the important considerations of using the IHN form of niacin is the reduction in fibrinogen, improvement in blood viscosity and therefore resulting in an increased oxygen transport to the cells. Studies show at a dosage of 2 grams twice daily, patients walking time and number of steps had significant improvement compared with the group who did not receive IHN. It also has benefited cases of restless leg syndrome if it is related to poor circulation.

If your source is accurate, then why is everyone taking Ldn? Ldn stimulates the immune system (rather than suppress it, which is the conventional approach) and increases levels of endorphins. This in turn stimulates the immune system to increase the number of T-cells. The increase in T-cells restores a more natural balance with the natural helper T-cells, so that the effects of the disease process is reduced.

Thank you for your input on this subject and I look forward to your response. Betty

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CYndi

Here is where the confusion lies. When someone goes into the store, they see a product labeled Flush-free NIACIN. Most folks do not read the ingredients panel to see that the 'niacin' is actually inositol.

The research that was posted that started this discussion was on the use of NIACIN and myelination.

mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

Posted by: "Betty " pigeon2003@... pigeon42844

Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:56 am (PST)

we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its Inositol. and Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin sheath.cyndi

[Guest guest]

thats correct. there was a short discussion of the "flush" vs "flush -free" and the reason I've been posting this info -is that over the years many ms patients have been buying "flush-free naicin" to avoid the flush and i just make sure that no one does that.niacin goodflush free niacin  bad(for ms patients)but I would start low and build your self up.cyndiOn Oct 15, 2006, at 6:53 AM, foxhillers@... wrote: CYndi   Here is where the confusion lies.  When someone goes into the store, they see a product labeled Flush-free NIACIN.  Most folks do not read the ingredients panel to see that the 'niacin' is actually inositol.   The research that was posted that started this discussion was on the use of NIACIN and myelination.   mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/   Posted by: "Betty " pigeon2003@...   pigeon42844 Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:56 am (PST) we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its Inositol. and Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin sheath.cyndi

[Guest guest]

>

> CYndi

>

> Here is where the confusion lies. When someone goes into the store,

they

> see a product labeled Flush-free NIACIN. Most folks do not read the

> ingredients panel to see that the 'niacin' is actually inositol.

>

> The research that was posted that started this discussion was on the

use of

> NIACIN and myelination.

>

> mjh

> " The Basil Book "

> _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_

(http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

>

>

> Posted by: " Betty " _pigeon2003@... _

> (mailto:pigeon2003@...?Subject= Re:%20NIACIN%20(B3)) _pigeon42844

_

> (pigeon42844)

> Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:56 am (PST)

> we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its Inositol. and

> Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin

sheath.

> cyndi

>

Cyndi- do you have any websites that we could look into, regarding

niacin?

[Guest guest]

at the bottom of this spiffy summery are the reference websitesNiacin,Niacin (Vitamin B3): This vitamin is also found to be effective in some individuals. The necessary dose is 500 mg taken three times daily with food. It must be taken with a daily dose of vitamin B complex to be fully effective. Vitamin B complex is considered to be an essential routine vitamin for use in the treatment of MS. Niacin may cause uncomfortable skin flushing in some individuals. A non-flush preparation is however available but is more expensive than the basic vitamin.Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=show & pageid=655 The FlushWhen you get that "flush" that means that the small blood vessels in your body are being expanded in size because of the niacin. Many of your small blood vessels, called "capillaries" are so small that blood cells can go through them only in single file.  Sometimes, in fact, that small passageway is clogged and blood doesn't get through at all. While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the surface (skin and surface areas) get their ONLY supply of blood (therefore also of oxygen and food!) from these small capillaries. So, if those capillaries are not carrying the blood, then those parts of the body are not getting nourishment and oxygen.  The niacin causes these small capillaries to get larger -- so they might be able to carry two or three blood cells at the same time. This is a tremendous increase in blood flow. You experience this as a reddening of the skin -- simply because there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As this blood flows in these areas the cells of the small capillaries will also be getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce "histamine" as part of that process. That histamine is another natural substance produced by every cell in the body -- when the cell is under attack, or is getting rid of toxins.   Histamine causes an "itchy" feeling.Some tips:  Do NOT take niacin with hot beverages, alcohol or spicy food.  If any problems arise, other than skin flushing or itching, which goes away in 30-60 minutes, consult your health practitioner.    Niacin is inexpensive and available at any health food store. I suggest you begin at 100 mg./day. If you are pregnant it is best to wait until you deliver to begin niacin. Please check your cholesterol and, after taking niacin for 30 days, check it again. Information acquired on 10/10/06 from:http://www.shanti.com.au/cleanses/niacin_flush.htm Karl Loren Website: http://www.oralchelation.com/On Oct 15, 2006, at 11:04 PM, surffcity wrote: CYndiHere is where the confusion lies.  When someone goes into the store,   they  see a product labeled Flush-free NIACIN.  Most folks do not read the  ingredients panel to see that the 'niacin' is actually inositol.The research that was posted that started this discussion was on the  use of   NIACIN and myelination.mjh"The  Basil Book"_http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_  (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)  Posted by: "Betty " _pigeon2003@... _ (mailto:pigeon2003@...?Subject= Re:%20NIACIN%20(B3))   _pigeon42844  _  (pigeon42844) Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:56 am (PST) we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its  Inositol. and Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the  myelin  sheath. cyndi Cyndi- do you have any websites that we could look into, regarding niacin?   

[Guest guest]

>

> we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its Inositol. and

> Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin

sheath.

> cyndi

>

> Cyndi, can you please give your source for this information? Niacin

is generally safe to take if one starts out with 100 mg daily and

gradually increases to higher amounts. The 'flush' gradually

diminishes as the body gets used to it. The danger of liver toxicity

is a great liability with both timed release and regular niacin. It

must be taken with the other B vitamins and one should stay within the

range of 500 mg of niacin a day unless under a Dr.'s care. Inositol

is a vita-nutrient naturally found in human breast milk for the

healthy development of babies and is a relative of the B-complex. The

inositol hexanicotinate form of niacin is not exactly a timed-release

formula. It is made up of 6 molecules of nicotinic acid and one

molecule of inositol which enables the body to slowly metabolize the

compound. Thus making it safer and virtually free of side effects at

much higher doses than niacin. I think one of the important

considerations of using the IHN form of niacin is the reduction in

fibrinogen, improvement in blood viscosity and therefore resulting in

an increased oxygen transport to the cells. Studies show at a dosage

of 2 grams twice daily, patients walking time and number of steps had

significant improvement compared with the group who did not receive

IHN. It also has benefited cases of restless leg syndrome if it is

related to poor circulation.

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> If your source is accurate, then why is everyone taking Ldn? Ldn

stimulates the immune system (rather than suppress it, which is the

conventional approach) and increases levels of endorphins. This in

turn stimulates the immune system to increase the number of T-cells.

The increase in T-cells restores a more natural balance with the

natural helper T-cells, so that the effects of the disease process is

reduced.

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> Thank you for your input on this subject and I look forward

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the entire subject came up in a inservice we had at the pharmacy  with skip and a band of pharmacy students  and some research I had them do. I'm not saying not to take niacin. in fact I would think with a release of histamine niacin would be a pretty kickbutt thing to do.but in the research we did we found that FLUSH FREE NIACIN is not really flush free niacin.  Its Inositol.> Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin sheath.cyndiOn Nov 17, 2006, at 6:40 PM, surffcity wrote:>> we there is no such thing as flush free niacin. Its Inositol. and > Inositol increase natural killer cells. which attack the myelin sheath.> cyndi> > Cyndi, can you please give your source for this information? Niacin is generally safe to take if one starts out with 100 mg daily and gradually increases to higher amounts. The 'flush' gradually diminishes as the body gets used to it. The danger of liver toxicity is a great liability with both timed release and regular niacin. It must be taken with the other B vitamins and one should stay within the range of 500 mg of niacin a day unless under a Dr.'s care. Inositol is a vita-nutrient naturally found in human breast milk for the healthy development of babies and is a relative of the B-complex. The inositol hexanicotinate form of niacin is not exactly a timed-release formula. It is made up of 6 molecules of nicotinic acid and one molecule of inositol which enables the body to slowly metabolize the compound. Thus making it safer and virtually free of side effects at much higher doses than niacin. I think one of the important considerations of using the IHN form of niacin is the reduction in fibrinogen, improvement in blood viscosity and therefore resulting in an increased oxygen transport to the cells. Studies show at a dosage of 2 grams twice daily, patients walking time and number of steps had significant improvement compared with the group who did not receive IHN. It also has benefited cases of restless leg syndrome if it is related to poor circulation. > > If your source is accurate, then why is everyone taking Ldn? Ldn stimulates the immune system (rather than suppress it, which is the conventional approach) and increases levels of endorphins. This in turn stimulates the immune system to increase the number of T-cells. The increase in T-cells restores a more natural balance with the natural helper T-cells, so that the effects of the disease process is reduced. > > Thank you for your input on this subject and I look forward

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I would be careful with the niacin flush. I tried it

several times when I was doing some food allergy

testing. I just took 100 mg tablets and I got such a

flush from my head down my face, my arms, my stomach.

legs, etc. It only lasted an hour or so, but I am

convinced it brought on an exacerbation of my ms. I

know everyone is different, but I have had ms 18

years, and I'm scared to take it again. Just be

careful with it!!!!