Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 About 3 am is also when the melatonin/serotonin shift happens and leads to stimulating people to wake up a few hours later. At 3 pm, when you feel sleepy, it is this shift again. mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Posted by: "Dave Carlin" davizona@... outtabodyexperience Sat Sep 2, 2006 5:20 pm (PST) , the poster mentioned 3 in the morning after takng her very first dose. I realize technically this is part of the next day, but isnt that a little early for this 'flood' of endorphins, especially since, according to the website, LDN is blocking endorphins between the hours of 2 and 4am. Cant you see where what you're saying doesnt make much sense? Perhaps you missed the part where he mentioned 3AM. Maybe there was a big play happening when you were reading it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Hi, Dave, Enorphins are PRODUCED between 2am and 4am. That's why the spike occurs then. > > , the poster mentioned 3 in the morning after takng her very first dose. I realize technically this is part of the next day, but isnt that a little early for this 'flood' of endorphins, especially since, according to the website, LDN is blocking endorphins between the hours of 2 and 4am. Cant you see where what you're saying doesnt make much sense? Perhaps you missed the part where he mentioned 3AM. Maybe there was a big play happening when you were reading it! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 UMMMMMM, normal endorphin activity occurs between 2 and 4, LDN blocks it. This was her first dose, dont think there was a 'spike! :0)) [low dose naltrexone] Re: Strange happening Hi, Dave, Enorphins are PRODUCED between 2am and 4am. That's why the spike occurs then.>> , the poster mentioned 3 in the morning after takng her very first dose. I realize technically this is part of the next day, but isnt that a little early for this 'flood' of endorphins, especially since, according to the website, LDN is blocking endorphins between the hours of 2 and 4am. Cant you see where what you're saying doesnt make much sense? Perhaps you missed the part where he mentioned 3AM. Maybe there was a big play happening when you were reading it! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 > > > > , the poster mentioned 3 in the morning after takng her very > first dose. I realize technically this is part of the next day, but > isnt that a little early for this 'flood' of endorphins, especially > since, according to the website, LDN is blocking endorphins between the > hours of 2 and 4am. Cant you see where what you're saying doesnt make > much sense? Perhaps you missed the part where he mentioned 3AM. Maybe > there was a big play happening when you were reading it! > > > > =========== Dave, Are you talking about me(, Arkansas) mentioning 3am or the other from Ohio, there are two 's on this forum. This is what I wrote below, never mentioning 3am in any of my replies to this subject. See below, I copied what I first wrote and pasted it below. There have been some that have had this happen. I am not a doctor but I think it's the intense boost of endorphins that first dose gives that is so intense that some get an extreme amount of endorphins to work with and the next doses the body has adjusted to the high endorphin spike and a leveling off starts to occur. from Arkansas, been on 4.5mg 3 years for MS with no progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I agree, very interesting. I think is referring to endorphin levels the day(s) following a dose. No argument, thats the way it's supposed to work. Your situation is different, if an endorphin overload causes disease reversal, lets just put a bunch in a hypodermic needle and end this stupid disease right now, I'll be the first one in line. For someone who is using a walker to get out of bed and walk down the hallway like there was nothing wrong with them, this is nothing short of amazing. I think this needs to be seriously looked at, thats why I was asking what meds she had stopped just previous to starting the LDN.>> Hello Everyone,> I have read all posts and really believe that Dave> and and the one that foxhillers posted needs to> be played out here. Something makes sense but I don`t > know what it is? The ladys first dose was only> 1.5 mg and she stayed on that for 30 days as that> is what Her Dr. wanted.> Thanks again for your concern, but are Endorphins> not enough? or maybe to much? Seems like there> might be several people on this forum that might> benefit in someway with more input like yours.> D. Kelley> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 It blocks the endorphins in our body at the time we take the LDN (...techinally, the ones produced the night before). That's what tricks the body it into producing more. The 'new ones' are not what's being blocked. > > > > , the poster mentioned 3 in the morning after takng her very > first dose. I realize technically this is part of the next day, but > isnt that a little early for this 'flood' of endorphins, especially > since, according to the website, LDN is blocking endorphins between the > hours of 2 and 4am. Cant you see where what you're saying doesnt make > much sense? Perhaps you missed the part where he mentioned 3AM. Maybe > there was a big play happening when you were reading it! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 lol, it's ok . Who won? > > > > > > , the poster mentioned 3 in the morning after takng her > very > > first dose. I realize technically this is part of the next day, > but > > isnt that a little early for this 'flood' of endorphins, > especially > > since, according to the website, LDN is blocking endorphins > between the > > hours of 2 and 4am. Cant you see where what you're saying doesnt > make > > much sense? Perhaps you missed the part where he mentioned 3AM. > Maybe > > there was a big play happening when you were reading it! > > > > > > > > =========== > > Dave, > > Are you talking about me(, Arkansas) mentioning 3am or the > other from Ohio, there are two 's on this forum. This > is what I wrote below, never mentioning 3am in any of my replies to > this subject. See below, I copied what I first wrote and pasted it > below. > > There have been some that have had this happen. I am not a doctor > but I think it's the intense boost of endorphins that first dose > gives that is so intense that some get an extreme amount of > endorphins to work with and the next doses the body has adjusted to > the high endorphin spike and a leveling off starts to > occur. > > from Arkansas, been on 4.5mg 3 years for MS with no > progression. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 But that is what is unusual, this was her first dose. > > > > > > , the poster mentioned 3 in the morning after takng her > very > > first dose. I realize technically this is part of the next day, > but > > isnt that a little early for this 'flood' of endorphins, > especially > > since, according to the website, LDN is blocking endorphins > between the > > hours of 2 and 4am. Cant you see where what you're saying doesnt > make > > much sense? Perhaps you missed the part where he mentioned 3AM. > Maybe > > there was a big play happening when you were reading it! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I think its this Post 42008 > MS is extremely unpredictable, but if it were the rush of endorphins, wouldnt that happen pretty much the next day? > ====== ====== The next day after the first dose is what I'm talking about. While LDN is blocking our endorphins our bodies are trippling the amount of endorphins that will carry us through the next day and hopefully not allow our disease to progress. That endorphin spike sometimes wakes us up in the middle of the night, the block is on and endorphins are producing in mass production creating energy, wakefulness, sometimes some may get a rapid heartbeat or heart palpatations. It's that carry-over of mass produced endorphins from the first night's dose that generally causes those with very low endorphins to be able to perform tasks that following day that they may not have been able to do for years. That big endorphin boost may not be as big the second dose because the endorphins are already up from that 1st dose so the boost may not be as strong with the second dose. Hope this makes sense, been watching college football all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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