Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I've been on LDN for 4 weeks now (2.5 mg level) and will be going back to see my "alternative medicine" doctor in 2 weeks for a followup. He wanted me to do some research on heavy metal toxicity & the challenge test. He wants me to consider getting a test for heavy metals and going through a detox procedure.

My questions are:

Have any of you taken a challenge test?

Have any of you had the IV chelation detox method?

Those of you who have gone through a detoxification, was it worth all the effort and all the money? Did you have positive results? Did you have to have your dental amalgams replaced first?

I am worried that detox might cause adverse reactions and progression of my disease (PLS not MS), have any of you who did the heavy metal and/or chemical detox have a bad reaction to it?

I have a mouth full of silver fillings dating back to when I was 6 years old, one root canal, 2 crowns, and I had braces when I was a teenager -- all of this before I showed my first obvious symptoms of PLS. I don't know what metal the braces were made from (I assume stainless steel mainly, but I'm sure there were other metals involved) but I had have silver/mercury fillings, gold fillings, stainless steel & gold crowns, and wonder if these different metals might act together as corrosives with the salt in my saliva, eroding away and releasing the metals into my system the same way metal (esp. aluminum) boats hulls do (commonly called electrolysis -- a galvanic action, or the flow of electrical current between dissimilar metals immersed in an electrolyte such as seawater.). So, I've been wondering if the salt content of the saliva in our mouths along with different metals can be corroded in a similar fashion? I've done searches and come up with those that endorse this theory and those that "pooh pooh" it. Do any of you have any experience with amalgam removal and, if so, did you notice any improvements?

[Guest guest]

You can find good information about heavy metals in the following.

/

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

frequent-dose-chelation/?

yguid=140279175

Please don't do a challenge test until you read a bit!!!

Chelation/detox is NOT something you want to do with a mouthful of

metals. You risk redistributing the metals and getting very ill.

A urine porphyrins test can offer you some information about heavy

metal load. The most accurate to date is presumably this lab.

Laboratoire Philippe Auguste

119 Avenue Philippe Auguste 75011 Paris France

http://www.labbio.net Tel/Fax:: (33)1.40.09.27.17

Email: contact@...

Secretary :

Tel : (33)1.43.67.57.00

Fax : (33)1.43.79.00.27

The test kit is easily ordered through internet-no money upfront;

only when you send in the urine for testing; about $125.

You can find information on what this is/interpretation @

http://search./search?p=safeminds%2C+porphyrins & ei=UTF-

8 & fr=slv1-adbe & x=wrt

A simple hair test, as listed in the references above, can also give

you good information on metal toxicity. The 2nd link will tell you

how to do it. The others will give you assistance with interpretation.

Our daughter had high levels of nickel and chromium when first

tested. Those `stainless steel' spacer bars and braces were close to

10% nickel and 20% chromium. In retrospect, I'd say they leached a

lot. I don't think that any `gold' crown is a pure metal but you'd

have to check. Most crowns require some type of prep work that

usually entails using material for modification of the site-

silver/mercury is the choice unless you requested otherwise. A gold

crown sitting on top of mercury is particularly hazardous acc to

Huggins. The galvanic response is part of the culprit. I don't deal

with MS so can't offer you that perspective. Our 21 year old is heavy

metal poisoned from vaccines. I was led to this site by her inclusion

in a trial using ldn for immune modulation that Dr McCandless did.

The heavy metals, esp mercury, have given her problems in almost

every system of her body, gi, immune, nervous, hormone etc. Chelation

has been the best intervention that we have done to improve her

health!!! Again, I will say how struck I am by the similarity of

complaints I read here and on the `autism' sites, where most children

are overwhelmed with the toxic components of vaccines. Please do NOT

even consider chelation with a mouthful of metal. If your

practitioner insists find another with a better knowledge base. Two

other good references are

Cutler, , Amalgam Illness; Diagnosis and Treatment

Cutler, , Hair Test Interpretation; Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> Hello,

>

> I've been on LDN for 4 weeks now (2.5 mg level) and will be going

back to

> see my " alternative medicine " doctor in 2 weeks for a followup. He

wanted me to

> do some research on heavy metal toxicity & the challenge test. He

wants me

> to consider getting a test for heavy metals and going through a

detox

> procedure.

>

> My questions are:

>

> Have any of you taken a challenge test?

>

> Have any of you had the IV chelation detox method?

>

> Those of you who have gone through a detoxification, was it worth

all the

> effort and all the money? Did you have positive results? Did you

have to have

> your dental amalgams replaced first?

>

> I am worried that detox might cause adverse reactions and

progression of my

> disease (PLS not MS), have any of you who did the heavy metal

and/or chemical

> detox have a bad reaction to it?

>

> I have a mouth full of silver fillings dating back to when I was 6

years

> old, one root canal, 2 crowns, and I had braces when I was a

teenager -- all of

> this before I showed my first obvious symptoms of PLS. I don't know

what

> metal the braces were made from (I assume stainless steel mainly,

but I'm sure

> there were other metals involved) but I had have silver/mercury

fillings, gold

> fillings, stainless steel & gold crowns, and wonder if these

different metals

> might act together as corrosives with the salt in my saliva,

eroding away

> and releasing the metals into my system the same way metal (esp.

aluminum)

> boats hulls do (commonly called electrolysis -- a galvanic action,

or the flow of

> electrical current between dissimilar metals immersed in an

electrolyte such

> as seawater.). So, I've been wondering if the salt content of the

saliva in

> our mouths along with different metals can be corroded in a

similar fashion?

> I've done searches and come up with those that endorse this theory

and those

> that " pooh pooh " it. Do any of you have any experience with

amalgam removal

> and, if so, did you notice any improvements?

>

[Guest guest]

I had my 3 mercury amalgams removed and then did much chelation. (5 years ago) The only thing I noticed was a lift in brain fog. I had no adverse reactions. I did a DMPS challenge. It's like everything else, different from one individual to the next. Marcie (I have MS) kramasjani@... wrote: Hello, I've been on LDN for 4 weeks now (2.5 mg level) and will be going back to see my "alternative medicine" doctor in 2 weeks for a followup. He wanted me to do some research on heavy metal toxicity & the challenge test. He wants me to consider getting a test for heavy metals and going through a detox procedure. My questions are: Have any of you taken a challenge test? Have any of you had the IV chelation detox method? Those of you who have gone through a detoxification, was it worth all the effort and all the money? Did you

have positive results? Did you have to have your dental amalgams replaced first? I am worried that detox might cause adverse reactions and progression of my disease (PLS not MS), have any of you who did the heavy metal and/or chemical detox have a bad reaction to it? I have a mouth full of silver fillings dating back to when I was 6 years old, one root canal, 2 crowns, and I had braces when I was a teenager -- all of this before I showed my first obvious symptoms of PLS. I don't know what metal the braces were made from (I assume stainless steel mainly, but I'm sure there were other metals involved) but I had have silver/mercury fillings, gold fillings, stainless steel & gold crowns, and wonder if these different metals might act together as corrosives with the salt in my saliva, eroding away and releasing the metals into my system the same way metal (esp. aluminum) boats hulls

do (commonly called electrolysis -- a galvanic action, or the flow of electrical current between dissimilar metals immersed in an electrolyte such as seawater.). So, I've been wondering if the salt content of the saliva in our mouths along with different metals can be corroded in a similar fashion? I've done searches and come up with those that endorse this theory and those that "pooh pooh" it. Do any of you have any experience with amalgam removal and, if so, did you notice any improvements?

[Guest guest]

I am in the middle of doing the same thing.

I had the Mercury removed from one side of my mouth. There were multiple cracks

in my

teeth due to the Mercury increasing and decreasing in temperature. This alone

is a good

reason to get Mercury out of your teeth. I will then proceed with detoxing of

heavy metal.

I believe it all helps even if it doesn't totally cure me.

LDN REPORT: I have been on LDN for several years now and can say that there has

been

absolutely no progress of the MS disease. The damage done tho is the damage

done and

those symtoms always get worse with heat and activity. Bummer - can't really be

very

active any more like I used to but I adapt.

The big news is that a tumor I had is starting to break down. It was benign and

hard and

on the mylenin (sp?) of a brain nerve so it seems related to MS. It was very

hard and the

Neurologist sent me to a neuro surgeon who wanted to operate on my head and

remove it

and listed about 5 horrible things that could happen to me not to mention

cutting part of

my skull off. When I asked him what the alternative was he didn't have one.

That's when I

went to an MD who is also an alternative ND and acupuncturist in Vancouver, WA.

He

prescibed the LDN and this year the MRI shows that the tumor is softening and

that my

body is starting to get rid of it! Way cool! Also I have Graves disease and

tho I've had my

thyroid treated it still attacks behind your eyes. I had one eye that I called

my " monster

eye " but it feels normal now and I have had no signs of eye attacks. So I

believe the LDN is

working along with the help of my new doctor...diet, supplements, getting rid of

heavy

metal toxicity.

> Hello,

>

> I've been on LDN for 4 weeks now (2.5 mg level) and will be going back to

see my

" alternative medicine " doctor in 2 weeks for a followup. He wanted me to do some

research on heavy metal toxicity & the challenge test. He wants me to consider

getting a

test for heavy metals and going through a detox procedure.

>

> My questions are:

>

> Have any of you taken a challenge test?

>

> Have any of you had the IV chelation detox method?

>

> Those of you who have gone through a detoxification, was it worth all the

effort and all

the money? Did you have positive results? Did you have to have your dental

amalgams

replaced first?

>

> I am worried that detox might cause adverse reactions and progression of my

disease

(PLS not MS), have any of you who did the heavy metal and/or chemical detox have

a bad

reaction to it?

>

> I have a mouth full of silver fillings dating back to when I was 6 years

old, one root

canal, 2 crowns, and I had braces when I was a teenager -- all of this before I

showed my

first obvious symptoms of PLS. I don't know what metal the braces were made from

(I

assume stainless steel mainly, but I'm sure there were other metals involved)

but I had

have silver/mercury fillings, gold fillings, stainless steel & gold crowns, and

wonder if

these different metals might act together as corrosives with the salt in my

saliva, eroding

away and releasing the metals into my system the same way metal (esp. aluminum)

boats

hulls do (commonly called electrolysis -- a galvanic action, or the flow of

electrical current

between dissimilar metals immersed in an electrolyte such as seawater.). So,

I've been

wondering if the salt content of the saliva in our mouths along with different

metals can be

corroded in a similar fashion? I've done searches and come up with those that

endorse this

> theory and those that " pooh pooh " it. Do any of you have any experience with

amalgam

removal and, if so, did you notice any improvements?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Nice to see yet another PLSer on here, though don't think I've ever seen

you on the PLS-FRIENDS group???

I had my 6 or so amalgam fillings removed about 6 months after diagnosis

(1993). I had it done properly i.e. rubber dam used etc but didn't do

any specific chelation at that time although was probably using Vit C

which is apparently a reasonable chelator. Didn't notice any difference

and continued to decline rather rapidly for PLS for about 5 more years

(ended up needing a walker to get around and had very poor speech).

Then started seriously on antioxidants after reading Steve Shackel's

excellent site http://home.goulburn.net.au/~shack/ (a must read for

anyone with ALS/PLS and even MS) and within six months the brakes were

drastically put on my progression. I have no way of knowing for sure

but it is possible that was due at least in part to the fact that

amongst what I started taking was a known good chelator ALA (alpha

lipoic acid) so maybe that helped remove lingering mercury????

If you haven't already done so it is definitely worth you reading

Edney's book (see http://www.ericiswinning.com/ ). is a great

believer in the value of eliminating toxins and seems to have done

remarkably well with his approach, though must admit I haven't received

anything from him for a year or so, so sounds like he may be struggling

now. Still, his approach, though very strict and regimented, certainly

paid dividends.

kramasjani@... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I've been on LDN for 4 weeks now (2.5 mg level) and will be going back

> to see my " alternative medicine " doctor in 2 weeks for a followup. He

> wanted me to do some research on heavy metal toxicity & the challenge

> test. He wants me to consider getting a test for heavy metals and

> going through a detox procedure.

>

> My questions are:

>

> Have any of you taken a challenge test?

>

> Have any of you had the IV chelation detox method?

>

> Those of you who have gone through a detoxification, was it worth

> all the effort and all the money? Did you have positive results? Did

> you have to have your dental amalgams replaced first?

>

> I am worried that detox might cause adverse reactions and progression

> of my disease (PLS not MS), have any of you who did the heavy metal

> and/or chemical detox have a bad reaction to it?

>

> I have a mouth full of silver fillings dating back to when I was 6

> years old, one root canal, 2 crowns, and I had braces when I was a

> teenager -- all of this before I showed my first obvious symptoms of

> PLS. I don't know what metal the braces were made from (I

> assume stainless steel mainly, but I'm sure there were other metals

> involved) but I had have silver/mercury fillings, gold fillings,

> stainless steel & gold crowns, and wonder if these different metals

> might act together as corrosives with the salt in my saliva, eroding

> away and releasing the metals into my system the same way metal (esp.

> aluminum) boats hulls do (commonly called electrolysis -- a galvanic

> action, or the flow of electrical current between dissimilar metals

> immersed in an electrolyte such as seawater.). So, I've been wondering

> if the salt content of the saliva in our mouths along with different

> metals can be corroded in a similar fashion? I've done searches and

> come up with those that endorse this theory and those that " pooh pooh "

> it. Do any of you have any experience with amalgam removal and, if so,

> did you notice any improvements?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am thinking about having my dad do this for PD.

Please let me know if you here anything.

THank you.

Healthy Regards,

Destiny

--- kramasjani@... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I've been on LDN for 4 weeks now (2.5 mg level) and

> will be going back to

> see my " alternative medicine " doctor in 2 weeks for

> a followup. He wanted me to

> do some research on heavy metal toxicity & the

> challenge test. He wants me

> to consider getting a test for heavy metals and

> going through a detox

> procedure.

>

> My questions are:

>

> Have any of you taken a challenge test?

>

> Have any of you had the IV chelation detox method?

>

> Those of you who have gone through a detoxification,

> was it worth all the

> effort and all the money? Did you have positive

> results? Did you have to have

> your dental amalgams replaced first?

>

> I am worried that detox might cause adverse

> reactions and progression of my

> disease (PLS not MS), have any of you who did the

> heavy metal and/or chemical

> detox have a bad reaction to it?

>

> I have a mouth full of silver fillings dating back

> to when I was 6 years

> old, one root canal, 2 crowns, and I had braces when

> I was a teenager -- all of

> this before I showed my first obvious symptoms of

> PLS. I don't know what

> metal the braces were made from (I assume stainless

> steel mainly, but I'm sure

> there were other metals involved) but I had have

> silver/mercury fillings, gold

> fillings, stainless steel & gold crowns, and wonder

> if these different metals

> might act together as corrosives with the salt in my

> saliva, eroding away

> and releasing the metals into my system the same way

> metal (esp. aluminum)

> boats hulls do (commonly called electrolysis -- a

> galvanic action, or the flow of

> electrical current between dissimilar metals

> immersed in an electrolyte such

> as seawater.). So, I've been wondering if the salt

> content of the saliva in

> our mouths along with different metals can be

> corroded in a similar fashion?

> I've done searches and come up with those that

> endorse this theory and those

> that " pooh pooh " it. Do any of you have any

> experience with amalgam removal

> and, if so, did you notice any improvements?

>

[Guest guest]

The first thing my neruo in michigan did was test for heavy metals and vitamin deficancy which all came back normal.The only abnormal tests were my emgs and the protein in my spinal fluid was elevated but not hi enough to dx me with ms and there were never any lessions found in my MRI"s .so after 3 and a half years of observation ms and als were ruled out and was decided I have pls.

But to get dxed was something that took approximately 10 years after being mis dxed and mis treated for a long period of time..

Jerry

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test

Hi,I am thinking about having my dad do this for PD. Please let me know if you here anything.THank you.Healthy Regards,Destiny--- kramasjaniaol wrote:> Hello,> > I've been on LDN for 4 weeks now (2.5 mg level) and> will be going back to > see my "alternative medicine" doctor in 2 weeks for> a followup. He wanted me to > do some research on heavy metal toxicity & the> challenge test. He wants me > to consider getting a test for heavy metals and> going through a detox > procedure.> > My questions are:> > Have any of you taken a challenge test?> > Have any of you had the IV chelation detox method?> > Those of you who have gone through a detoxification,> was it worth all the > effort and all the money? Did you have positive> results? Did you have to have > your dental amalgams replaced first?> > I am worried that detox might cause adverse> reactions and progression of my > disease (PLS not MS), have any of you who did the> heavy metal and/or chemical > detox have a bad reaction to it?> > I have a mouth full of silver fillings dating back> to when I was 6 years > old, one root canal, 2 crowns, and I had braces when> I was a teenager -- all of > this before I showed my first obvious symptoms of> PLS. I don't know what > metal the braces were made from (I assume stainless> steel mainly, but I'm sure > there were other metals involved) but I had have> silver/mercury fillings, gold > fillings, stainless steel & gold crowns, and wonder> if these different metals > might act together as corrosives with the salt in my> saliva, eroding away > and releasing the metals into my system the same way> metal (esp. aluminum) > boats hulls do (commonly called electrolysis -- a> galvanic action, or the flow of > electrical current between dissimilar metals> immersed in an electrolyte such > as seawater.). So, I've been wondering if the salt> content of the saliva in > our mouths along with different metals can be> corroded in a similar fashion? > I've done searches and come up with those that> endorse this theory and those > that "pooh pooh" it. Do any of you have any > experience with amalgam removal > and, if so, did you notice any improvements?>

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[Guest guest]

, Marcie, & ,

Thank you for responding to my questions about heavy metal toxicity & the challenge test.

, I have been checking out the websites you offered. There is a lot of good information there. Thank you. I appreciate the warning about the challenge test/chelating with a mouthful of metal. I don't think my doctor mentioned that aspect to me, so I will see what he has to say about it when I see him Oct. 4 to discuss these issues with him.

Marcie, I appreciate your feedback on having your amalgams removed followed by chelation. I know that many people with ALS, that I've heard had it done, did not see any benefits whatsoever.

, it is nice to know about the French test being more up to date than our challenge test. This along with 's contact information will give me the ability to "challenge" my doctor about doing the challenge test.

Thanks again for your replies.

In messages dated 9/18/2006 2:31:42 PM Mountain Standard Time, low dose naltrexone writes:

7b. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: "mbrookh" mbrookh@... mbrookh Date: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:37 am (PDT)You can find good information about heavy metals in the following. /http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/frequent-dose-chelation/?yguid=140279175Please don't do a challenge test until you read a bit!!! Chelation/detox is NOT something you want to do with a mouthful of metals. You risk redistributing the metals and getting very ill. A urine porphyrins test can offer you some information about heavy metal load. The most accurate to date is presumably this lab.Laboratoire Philippe Auguste119 Avenue Philippe Auguste 75011 Paris Francehttp://www.labbio.net Tel/Fax:: (33)1.40.09.27.17Email: contact@...Secretary :Tel : (33)1.43.67.57.00 Fax : (33)1.43.79.00.27 The test kit is easily ordered through internet-no money upfront; only when you send in the urine for testing; about $125. You can find information on what this is/interpretation @http://search./search?p=safeminds%2C+porphyrins & ei=UTF-8 & fr=slv1-adbe & x=wrtA simple hair test, as listed in the references above, can also give you good information on metal toxicity. The 2nd link will tell you how to do it. The others will give you assistance with interpretation.Our daughter had high levels of nickel and chromium when first tested. Those `stainless steel' spacer bars and braces were close to 10% nickel and 20% chromium. In retrospect, I'd say they leached a lot. I don't think that any `gold' crown is a pure metal but you'd have to check. Most crowns require some type of prep work that usually entails using material for modification of the site-silver/mercury is the choice unless you requested otherwise. A gold crown sitting on top of mercury is particularly hazardous acc to Huggins. The galvanic response is part of the culprit. I don't deal with MS so can't offer you that perspective. Our 21 year old is heavy metal poisoned from vaccines. I was led to this site by her inclusion in a trial using ldn for immune modulation that Dr McCandless did. The heavy metals, esp mercury, have given her problems in almost every system of her body, gi, immune, nervous, hormone etc. Chelation has been the best intervention that we have done to improve her health!!! Again, I will say how struck I am by the similarity of complaints I read here and on the `autism' sites, where most children are overwhelmed with the toxic components of vaccines. Please do NOT even consider chelation with a mouthful of metal. If your practitioner insists find another with a better knowledge base. Two other good references areCutler, , Amalgam Illness; Diagnosis and TreatmentCutler, , Hair Test Interpretation; Finding Hidden ToxicitiesMessages in this topic (3)________________________________________________________________________7c. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: "Marcie " marcie_martin@... minniedog11998 Date: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:21 pm (PDT)I had my 3 mercury amalgams removed and then did much chelation. (5 years ago) The only thing I noticed was a lift in brain fog. I had no adverse reactions. I did a DMPS challenge. It's like everything else, different from one individual to the next. Marcie (I have MS) Messages in this topic (3)________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________8. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge te st Posted by: "nstubbs1@..." nstubbs1@... Date: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:30 am (PDT)The French have developed a new markerfor metals involving the porphyrins ofthe kidneys. Around $115 plus shipping.In use by the autism doctors now morefrequently than the old challenge tests.

[Guest guest]

Alice, , & the person who asked what PLS is,

Alice, I appreciate getting your take on things. It is great news that the LDN is softening your tumor and making an impact on your Graves disease as well. Keep me advised as to your detox progress and improvements. I doubt I will go forward with the process as I just have too many fillings in my mouth, but maybe I will sometime in the future after I give LDN a good try (at least a year or two). So, I will be interested in your results.

, I've already e-mailed you directly. Yes, one more PLSer on LDN is a good thing. I hope many more of us will join the bandwagon.

For the person who asked what PLS is, here is what my neurologist said: PLS (Primary Lateral Sclerosis) is a very rare neuromuscular disease which attacks the upper motor neurons, causing extreme spasticity; hyper reflexivity (including extreme startle); weakness in hands, arms, legs, and feet; and bulbar problems involving speech & swallowing. It is similar to MS in that we will eventually end up with paralysis when the nerves sending signals fail completely, however the sclerosis doesn't affect the myelin sheath. Instead it damages the inside of the nerves causing scar tissue to build up and eventually prevents the nerves from communicating. It usually progresses slowly over a couple decades or more.

In messages dated 9/19/2006 6:32:23 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, low dose naltrexone writes:

2a. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: "cotton_alice" alice@... cotton_alice Date: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:24 pm (PDT)I am in the middle of doing the same thing.I had the Mercury removed from one side of my mouth. There were multiple cracks in my teeth due to the Mercury increasing and decreasing in temperature. This alone is a good reason to get Mercury out of your teeth. I will then proceed with detoxing of heavy metal. I believe it all helps even if it doesn't totally cure me. LDN REPORT: I have been on LDN for several years now and can say that there has been absolutely no progress of the MS disease. The damage done tho is the damage done and those symtoms always get worse with heat and activity. Bummer - can't really be very active any more like I used to but I adapt.The big news is that a tumor I had is starting to break down. It was benign and hard and on the mylenin (sp?) of a brain nerve so it seems related to MS. It was very hard and the Neurologist sent me to a neuro surgeon who wanted to operate on my head and remove it and listed about 5 horrible things that could happen to me not to mention cutting part of my skull off. When I asked him what the alternative was he didn't have one. That's when I went to an MD who is also an alternative ND and acupuncturist in Vancouver, WA. He prescibed the LDN and this year the MRI shows that the tumor is softening and that my body is starting to get rid of it! Way cool! Also I have Graves disease and tho I've had my thyroid treated it still attacks behind your eyes. I had one eye that I called my "monster eye" but it feels normal now and I have had no signs of eye attacks. So I believe the LDN is working along with the help of my new doctor...diet, supplements, getting rid of heavy metal toxicity.Messages in this topic (5)________________________________________________________________________2b. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: " C" covo@... covoyg Date: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:05 pm (PDT)Hi,Nice to see yet another PLSer on here, though don't think I've ever seen you on the PLS-FRIENDS group???I had my 6 or so amalgam fillings removed about 6 months after diagnosis (1993). I had it done properly i.e. rubber dam used etc but didn't do any specific chelation at that time although was probably using Vit C which is apparently a reasonable chelator. Didn't notice any difference and continued to decline rather rapidly for PLS for about 5 more years (ended up needing a walker to get around and had very poor speech).Then started seriously on antioxidants after reading Steve Shackel's excellent site http://home.goulburn.net.au/~shack/ (a must read for anyone with ALS/PLS and even MS) and within six months the brakes were drastically put on my progression. I have no way of knowing for sure but it is possible that was due at least in part to the fact that amongst what I started taking was a known good chelator ALA (alpha lipoic acid) so maybe that helped remove lingering mercury????If you haven't already done so it is definitely worth you reading Edney's book (see http://www.ericiswinning.com/ ). is a great believer in the value of eliminating toxins and seems to have done remarkably well with his approach, though must admit I haven't received anything from him for a year or so, so sounds like he may be struggling now. Still, his approach, though very strict and regimented, certainly paid dividends.

[Guest guest]

Destiny & Jerry,

Thank you for your responses.

Destiny, I doubt that I will go forward with the procedure from what I've gleaned from my research so far. I have too many teeth which would need amalgam fillings replaced. The cost would be prohibitive for me as would the hassle of traveling 140 round trip to have the detoxification procedures (I live in a remote area). listed some very good forums to join if you are interested in continuing to check into it (search for the thread "Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test" to see her reply to me). I do hope your dad's Parkinson's will improve on LDN, though.

Jerry, my PLS only took a year and a half to get diagnosed although my first neurologist didn't have a clue and had to send me to a University Hospital to get my diagnosis. I'm sure I have heavy metals in me, but not sure I want to go through the hassle involved to purge them. I had these filling since I was just a kid and I think the damage was done long ago and probably mostly isn't reversible. I still have to do more research into nutrients which can help regenerate nervous tissue.

In a message dated 9/20/2006 4:25:00 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, low dose naltrexone writes:

7a. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: "Destiny" destinyellen@... destinyellen Date: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:29 am (PDT)Hi,I am thinking about having my dad do this for PD. Please let me know if you here anything.THank you.Healthy Regards,Destiny

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7b. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: "Jerry ( aka Dillon )" jerrysimmons@... dillon_1954 Date: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:04 am (PDT)The first thing my neruo in michigan did was test for heavy metals and vitamin deficancy which all came back normal.The only abnormal tests were my emgs and the protein in my spinal fluid was elevated but not hi enough to dx me with ms and there were never any lessions found in my MRI"s .so after 3 and a half years of observation ms and als were ruled out and was decided I have pls.But to get dxed was something that took approximately 10 years after being mis dxed and mis treated for a long period of time..Jerry

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I had all my amalgam fillings removed at great expense 13 yrs ago......No change.

Regards,

Tom

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test

Destiny & Jerry,

Thank you for your responses.

Destiny, I doubt that I will go forward with the procedure from what I've gleaned from my research so far. I have too many teeth which would need amalgam fillings replaced. The cost would be prohibitive for me as would the hassle of traveling 140 round trip to have the detoxification procedures (I live in a remote area). listed some very good forums to join if you are interested in continuing to check into it (search for the thread "Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test" to see her reply to me). I do hope your dad's Parkinson's will improve on LDN, though.

Jerry, my PLS only took a year and a half to get diagnosed although my first neurologist didn't have a clue and had to send me to a University Hospital to get my diagnosis. I'm sure I have heavy metals in me, but not sure I want to go through the hassle involved to purge them. I had these filling since I was just a kid and I think the damage was done long ago and probably mostly isn't reversible. I still have to do more research into nutrients which can help regenerate nervous tissue.

In a message dated 9/20/2006 4:25:00 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, low dose naltrexone writes:

7a. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: "Destiny" destinyellen destinyellen Date: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:29 am (PDT)Hi,I am thinking about having my dad do this for PD. Please let me know if you here anything.THank you.Healthy Regards,Destiny

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7b. Re: Questions: Heavy metal toxicity & challenge test Posted by: "Jerry ( aka Dillon )" jerrysimmonsbellsouth (DOT) net dillon_1954 Date: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:04 am (PDT)The first thing my neruo in michigan did was test for heavy metals and vitamin deficancy which all came back normal.The only abnormal tests were my emgs and the protein in my spinal fluid was elevated but not hi enough to dx me with ms and there were never any lessions found in my MRI"s .so after 3 and a half years of observation ms and als were ruled out and was decided I have pls.But to get dxed was something that took approximately 10 years after being mis dxed and mis treated for a long period of time..Jerry