Re: Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids

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could you clarify thisr.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB.what do mean a perk?cyndiOn Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 PM, dina feldon wrote:Hello Marcie,Yes, you're right.  Dr.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB.  When your Dr. quits talking to you it will be because he knows he can't "sell" you.  Don't be upset just find another Dr. BEFORE he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN prescription is FULL with a refill or two.  All caps is okay with me.  MS makes it hard to see sometimes.God Bless, Dyana

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Cyndi, "Perks" are things like clocks for the office (of course they have the company's name on them), t-shirts for the staff, 'dine and dash' meals for the docs family (the pharma rep will be at a restaraunt, usually a nice place), and when the doc gets off for the day, he/she stops by the restaraunt and dinner for the family is paid for, sometimes expenses for nice trips are paid for...I worked with a girl who was married to a pharma rep. There was no end to it. Commissions were paid based on how much med was sold. Marcie Cyndi Lenz <psychrn@...> wrote: could you clarify this r.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB. what do mean a perk? cyndi On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 PM, dina feldon wrote: Hello Marcie, Yes, you're right. Dr.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB. When

your Dr. quits talking to you it will be because he knows he can't "sell" you. Don't be upset just find another Dr. BEFORE he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN prescription is FULL with a refill or two. All caps is okay with me. MS makes it hard to see sometimes. God Bless, Dyana

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Marcie, I know exactly what you are talking about. I know several

nurses and others in the medical field, my mom and sister-in-law

included and they can tell you some stories. Not to say all doctors

do this....but it makes me wonder....who is treating us...the doctors

or the pharmaceutical companies?

Health, Donna

www.freewebs.com/lovelaugh/

>

> Hello Marcie,

> Yes, you're right. Dr.'s do get a " perk " for every patient they

have on a CRAB. When your Dr. quits talking to you it will be

because he knows he can't " sell " you. Don't be upset just find

another Dr. BEFORE he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your

LDN prescription is FULL with a refill or two. All caps is okay with

me. MS makes it hard to see sometimes.

>

>

>

>

>

> God Bless, Dyana

>

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Donna, I know...sometimes I feel like I need to remind my doc that he works for me (or my insurance company)! I guess that $250.00 ten minute office visit isn't enough! Marcie doofus117 <doofus117@...> wrote: Marcie, I know exactly what you are talking about. I know several nurses and others in the medical field, my mom and

sister-in-law included and they can tell you some stories. Not to say all doctors do this....but it makes me wonder....who is treating us...the doctors or the pharmaceutical companies?Health, Donnawww.freewebs.com/lovelaugh/> > Hello Marcie,> Yes, you're right. Dr.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB. When your Dr. quits talking to you it will be because he knows he can't "sell" you. Don't be upset just find another Dr. BEFORE he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN prescription is FULL with a refill or two. All caps is okay with me. MS makes it hard to see sometimes.> > > > > > God Bless, Dyana>

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Vaccination and Death>> Donna,> > I know...sometimes I feel like I need to remind my doc that he works for me (or my insurance company)! I guess that $250.00 ten minute office visit isn't enough!>

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From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of outtabodyexperienceSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:16 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids

The 20 Facts About Death You Need to Know

About 100 billion people have died since humans first walked the earth. The practice of burying the dead may date back 350,000 years.

This fascinating article in Discover takes a look at some information about death you might not have been aware of, including the fact that no American has died of old age since 1951 (when the government eliminated that classification on death certificates).

One fact of particular interest to readers of this newsletter is that 80 percent of people in the United States die in a hospital.

Discover September 2006; 27(9)

Dr. Mercola's Comment:

If you have been reading this newsletter for any length of time you know that merely the routine activity of conventional medicine can be enough to harm or kill you if you're not careful, so I'm not terribly surprised by the statistic revealing that 80 percent of Americans die in a hospital.

Here are a couple more pertinent medical-related factoids from the article:

Vultures in India are dying due to residues of the anti-inflammatory drug diclofenac (better known as Voltaren) that they ingest when they eat dead cattle carcasses. More New York City residents die from suicide than are murdered.

Here are a few more facts, not from the article:

Death rate actually decreases when doctors go on strike, and deaths blamed on mistakes made with prescription drugs sold at pharmacies spike at the beginning of each month. Meanwhile, wild variations in health care quality lead to:

42,000-79,000 avoidable deaths

66.5 million avoidable sick days

$1.8 billion in additional medical care costs

The sad tragedy is that the conventional medical paradigm is fatally flawed. The United States is spending $2 trillion every year for a system that is based on disease management focused on drugs and surgery that fail to address the underlying cause of disease.

Additionally, clever manipulation of the official government death rates conceals the fact that the conventional medical system, not heart disease or cancer, is the leading cause of death in this country. Yet, in all fairness, physicians themselves are not the primary reason, as they are under the pernicious influence of the multi-billion-dollar marketing umbrella of the drug companies.

Our return on the massive investment in health care is profoundly poor. The bottom line is that the system is crumbling before our eyes. The very economic stability of the United States is threatened by this abuse. The good news is that the expense and misery can be powerful motivating factors to change.

If you want to take a giant step toward better health for you and your family, and avoid becoming another death statistic, please stay tuned as I am currently testing the new version of Mercola.com that will allow you to actively participate in developing the largest collection of health truth this world has ever known.

I have had a team of programmers working for many months to create a brand new Web 2.0 site that is based on the wildly popular Digg.com, which did not exist until December 2004 and now is in the top 25 Web sites in the world.

We are actually alpha testing the program now and hope to have it available soon. Once completed it may be one of the single most important catalysts for the transformation of the health care system.

Related Articles:

Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death

Death by Medicine

Vaccination and Death>> Donna,> > I know...sometimes I feel like I need to remind my doc that he works for me (or my insurance company)! I guess that $250.00 ten minute office visit isn't enough!>

[Guest guest]

My question is: How do the drug

companies know how many prescriptions the doctors write for certain

drugs. I think I saw one doc with a prescription pad that made an extra

copy, but most are just single pads that they write your script on.

Re: [low dose naltrexone]

Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids

could you clarify this

r.'s do get a " perk " for every patient they

have on a CRAB.

what do mean a perk?

cyndi

On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 PM, dina feldon wrote:

Hello

Marcie,

Yes, you're right. Dr.'s do get a " perk " for every

patient they have on a CRAB. When your Dr. quits talking to you it will

be because he knows he can't " sell " you. Don't be upset just

find another Dr. BEFORE he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN

prescription is FULL with a refill or two. All caps is okay with

me. MS makes it hard to see sometimes.

God

Bless, Dyana

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Connie,

When I was on Avonex, I never saw a paper prescription...Everything

was through Biogen directly. They even contacted my doctor when the

prescription needed to be renewed. The only paper I saw was my bill.

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello Marcie,

>

> Yes, you're right. Dr.'s do get a " perk " for every patient they

have on a

> CRAB. When your Dr. quits talking to you it will be because he

knows he

> can't " sell " you. Don't be upset just find another Dr. BEFORE he

gives you

> the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN prescription is FULL with

a refill

> or two. All caps is okay with me. MS makes it hard to see

sometimes.

>

>

>

>

>

> God Bless, Dyana

>

[Guest guest]

my doctor takes a photo copy of every script he writes .

RE: [low dose naltrexone] Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids

My question is: How do the drug companies know how many prescriptions the doctors write for certain drugs. I think I saw one doc with a prescription pad that made an extra copy, but most are just single pads that they write your script on.

-----Original Message-----From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Cyndi LenzSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:56 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids

could you clarify this

r.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB.

what do mean a perk?

cyndi

On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 PM, dina feldon wrote:

Hello Marcie,

Yes, you're right. Dr.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB. When your Dr. quits talking to you it will be because he knows he can't "sell" you. Don't be upset just find another Dr. BEFORE he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN prescription is FULL with a refill or two. All caps is okay with me. MS makes it hard to see sometimes.

God Bless, Dyana

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I have to say both of these comments are

very interesting. A photo copy of every prescription, and medication coming

straight from the maker and them calling to remind you of refill time……Anyone

else…….

Re: [low dose naltrexone]

Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids

my doctor takes a photo copy of every script he writes .

Re: [low dose naltrexone]

Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids

could you clarify this

r.'s do get a " perk " for every patient they

have on a CRAB.

what do mean a perk?

cyndi

On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 PM, dina feldon wrote:

Hello Marcie,

Yes, you're

right. Dr.'s do get a " perk " for every patient they have on a

CRAB. When your Dr. quits talking to you it will be because he knows he

can't " sell " you. Don't be upset just find another Dr. BEFORE

he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN prescription is FULL with

a refill or two. All caps is okay with me. MS makes it hard to see

sometimes.

God

Bless, Dyana

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Connie, Avonex is the only one I've taken. The company was in contact with me as a 'courtesy.' I have a friend who took Rebif. They contacted him every so often, just to check on him. Somehow, that's how they found out that there was a high risk of suicide associated with the drug. He discontinued then. Marcie Conni Lawrence <summerwind1@...> wrote: I have to say both of these comments are very interesting. A photo copy of every prescription, and medication coming straight from the maker and them calling to remind you of refill time……Anyone else……. -----Original Message-----From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Jerry ( aka Dillon )Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:20 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino

acids my doctor takes a photo copy of every script he writes . RE: [low dose naltrexone] Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino

acids My question is: How do the drug companies know how many prescriptions the doctors write for certain drugs. I think I saw one doc with a prescription pad that made an extra copy, but most are just single pads that they write your script on. -----Original Message-----From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Cyndi LenzSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:56 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Copaxone does not halt progression of MS it's amino acids could you clarify this r.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a

CRAB. what do mean a perk? cyndi On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 PM, dina feldon wrote: Hello

Marcie, Yes, you're right. Dr.'s do get a "perk" for every patient they have on a CRAB. When your Dr. quits talking to you it will be because he knows he can't "sell" you. Don't be upset just find another Dr. BEFORE he gives you the cold shoulder and make sure your LDN prescription is FULL with a refill or two. All caps is okay with me. MS makes it hard to see sometimes. God Bless, Dyana No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006