Re: Off Topic: FDA to take a harder look at custom blending of drugs

[Guest guest]

That's ridiculous! Before Big Pharma was around, this was the only

way to get medicine. You went to a pharmacist who made it for you

according to the doctor's prescription. It was considered safe then.

I guess now that Big Pharma wants to make its millions, we can't

trust compounding pharmacists anymore?? Let me see....a well-trained

pharmacist with his 5+ years of college and his background in

biology,chemistry,and other sciences vs. a corporate giant... Which

one would I have more confidence in to get my proper medication?

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> Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates

> unapproved therapies

> By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006

>

> WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its

hands-

> off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk

> ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work, known

> as compounding.

>

> The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone

replacement

> therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications.

> Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and

> dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments.

> Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for children

> or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now,

the

> FDA has quietly condoned the practice...

>

>

http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2006/08/29/fda_to_t

> ake_a_harder_look_at_custom_blending_of_drugs/

>

[Guest guest]

I can understand why : there is no quality control in these

pharmacy. How do we know what they are putting in the stuff ??

also, these pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing

conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an

example of such arrogance.

Really, the best way to compound is to do-ityourself, from the FDA

approved pills (i.e. the 50 mg)... you know exactly what you're

putting in, and you can control the amount .

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> Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates

> unapproved therapies

> By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006

>

> WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its

hands-

> off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk

> ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work,

known

> as compounding.

>

> The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone

replacement

> therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications.

> Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and

> dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments.

> Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for

children

> or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now,

the

> FDA has quietly condoned the practice...

>

>

http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2006/08/29/fda_to_

t

> ake_a_harder_look_at_custom_blending_of_drugs/

>

[Guest guest]

Skip? Arrogance? Prices that are out of control? Proof? Now....

i hardly call $67 for three months out of control......$1000 to $1500

a month.....out of control.....

> >

> > Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates

> > unapproved therapies

> > By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006

> >

> > WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its

> hands-

> > off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk

> > ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work,

> known

> > as compounding.

> >

> > The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone

> replacement

> > therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications.

> > Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and

> > dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments.

> > Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for

> children

> > or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now,

> the

> > FDA has quietly condoned the practice...

> >

> >

>

http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2006/08/29/fda_to_

> t

> > ake_a_harder_look_at_custom_blending_of_drugs/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

lol, sounds like someone I know! Hey, I just bought two preSKrIPtions, totaled somewhere around 30 bucks. I can tell you that you think the way I used to, not anymore. I still make my own, that might change though, SKrIPts are so much simpler. As far as not knowing what they're putting in it, yes you need to do your homework, but not trusting someone like Skip doesnt make a whole lot of sense, especially here and now!

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Off Topic: FDA to take a harder look at custom blending of drugs

Skip? Arrogance? Prices that are out of control? Proof? Now....i hardly call $67 for three months out of control......$1000 to $1500 a month.....out of control.....> >> > Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates > > unapproved therapies> > By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006> > > > WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its > hands-> > off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk > > ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work, > known > > as compounding.> > > > The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone > replacement > > therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications. > > Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and > > dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments. > > Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for > children > > or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now, > the > > FDA has quietly condoned the practice...> > > > > http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2006/08/29/fda_to_> t> > ake_a_harder_look_at_custom_blending_of_drugs/> >>

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>> eli wrote:here is no quality control in these

>> pharmacy.

that is not true.

>> hese pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing

>> conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an

>> example of such arrogance.

your kidding me. right.

skip's pharmacy paid over 1000 dollars to print the books for the

last ldn conference which was the biggest expense. we donated

thousands of hours to film it edited and put it together. I don't

even know how much it cost. i'm afraid to figure it out. I know I

spent 6 weeks editing it and is still work that needs to be done.

skip pharmacy is paying me to complete a documentary on ldn that I

hope will be played at film festivals to let people not only know

about ldn but about how people are treated when they go to the

doctors and are blown off.

skip's pharmacy has done two retrospective studies

one on side effects

one on effectiveness

and if it wasn't for skip you all would still be getting calcium

carbonate in your ldn because he is the one that brought to the table.

skip himself set our prices so they would be low so no one could say

they couldn't afford their ldn.

he has put himself on the line for all ldners and spent his time and

considerable effect making sure that when it goes out it goes out

right and that every person that works in the pharmacy has a good

understanding of not only the drug but the people behind it.

cyndi

On Sep 5, 2006, at 7:13 PM, doofus117 wrote:

> Skip? Arrogance? Prices that are out of control? Proof? Now....

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> i hardly call $67 for three months out of control......$1000 to $1500

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>>> Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates

>>> unapproved therapies

>>> By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006

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>>> WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its

>> hands-

>>> off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk

>>> ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work,

>> known

>>> as compounding.

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>>> The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone

>> replacement

>>> therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications.

>>> Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and

>>> dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments.

>>> Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for

>> children

>>> or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now,

>> the

>>> FDA has quietly condoned the practice...

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[Guest guest]

Amen Cyndi, I don't know who this idiot is, but he sure as hell doesn't know Skip. I've only been taking LDN for a couple of weeks and when I had some questions I called and Skip talked to me for over 20 minutes. He's passionate in his advocacy of LDN and his prices are unbelievably low. I just spent more money at Dairy Queen for ice cream for a family of four than I did for a month's supply of LDN. As far as I'm concerned this guy is just plain nuts.

Pete

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Off Topic: FDA to take a harder look at custom blending of drugs

>> eli wrote:here is no quality control in these>> pharmacy.that is not true.>> hese pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing>> conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an>> example of such arrogance.your kidding me. right.skip's pharmacy paid over 1000 dollars to print the books for the last ldn conference which was the biggest expense. we donated thousands of hours to film it edited and put it together. I don't even know how much it cost. i'm afraid to figure it out. I know I spent 6 weeks editing it and is still work that needs to be done. skip pharmacy is paying me to complete a documentary on ldn that I hope will be played at film festivals to let people not only know about ldn but about how people are treated when they go to the doctors and are blown off.skip's pharmacy has done two retrospective studiesone on side effectsone on effectivenessand if it wasn't for skip you all would still be getting calcium carbonate in your ldn because he is the one that brought to the table.skip himself set our prices so they would be low so no one could say they couldn't afford their ldn.he has put himself on the line for all ldners and spent his time and considerable effect making sure that when it goes out it goes out right and that every person that works in the pharmacy has a good understanding of not only the drug but the people behind it.cyndiOn Sep 5, 2006, at 7:13 PM, doofus117 wrote:> Skip? Arrogance? Prices that are out of control? Proof? Now....>> i hardly call $67 for three months out of control......$1000 to $1500> a month.....out of control.....>>>>> >>>>>> Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates>>> unapproved therapies>>> By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006>>>>>> WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its>> hands->>> off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk>>> ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work,>> known>>> as compounding.>>>>>> The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone>> replacement>>> therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications.>>> Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and>>> dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments.>>> Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for>> children>>> or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now,>> the>>> FDA has quietly condoned the practice...>>>>>>>>> http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2006/08/29/fda_to_>> t>>> ake_a_harder_look_at_custom_blending_of_drugs/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Good to see I'm not the only one who goes to Dairy Queen. I dont feel so guilty now. :0)))

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Off Topic: FDA to take a harder look at custom blending of drugs

>> eli wrote:here is no quality control in these>> pharmacy.that is not true.>> hese pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing>> conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an>> example of such arrogance.your kidding me. right.skip's pharmacy paid over 1000 dollars to print the books for the last ldn conference which was the biggest expense. we donated thousands of hours to film it edited and put it together. I don't even know how much it cost. i'm afraid to figure it out. I know I spent 6 weeks editing it and is still work that needs to be done. skip pharmacy is paying me to complete a documentary on ldn that I hope will be played at film festivals to let people not only know about ldn but about how people are treated when they go to the doctors and are blown off.skip's pharmacy has done two retrospective studiesone on side effectsone on effectivenessand if it wasn't for skip you all would still be getting calcium carbonate in your ldn because he is the one that brought to the table.skip himself set our prices so they would be low so no one could say they couldn't afford their ldn.he has put himself on the line for all ldners and spent his time and considerable effect making sure that when it goes out it goes out right and that every person that works in the pharmacy has a good understanding of not only the drug but the people behind it.cyndiOn Sep 5, 2006, at 7:13 PM, doofus117 wrote:> Skip? Arrogance? Prices that are out of control? Proof? Now....>> i hardly call $67 for three months out of control......$1000 to $1500> a month.....out of control.....>>>>> >>>>>> Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates>>> unapproved therapies>>> By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006>>>>>> WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its>> hands->>> off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk>>> ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work,>> known>>> as compounding.>>>>>> The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone>> replacement>>> therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications.>>> Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and>>> dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments.>>> Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for>> children>>> or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now,>> the>>> FDA has quietly condoned the practice...>>>>>>>>> http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2006/08/29/fda_to_>> t>>> ake_a_harder_look_at_custom_blending_of_drugs/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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thanks. just to reiterate-i am quite honored to be here -i never ever ever  promote the pharmacy - i always list all the pharmacies listed on the ldn site that dr bahari chose and for good reason. I know each and everyone of those pharmacies have made a commitment to making the best ldn and to the people that are taking it. I want to make sure that when you take this your getting good stuff. but i will defend skip each and every time for  the time and energy he has put into ldn and anyone  who has questions.  he made sure adam and I had the time and the resources to complete that dvd- he had total faith is us that we would create the very best product so we could proudly show the world what an incredible day it was and the incredible people involved. now if i can just get the documentary done life would be good.cyndiOn Sep 5, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Pete Fuller wrote: Amen Cyndi, I don't know who this idiot is, but he sure as hell doesn't know Skip.  I've only been taking LDN for a couple of weeks and when I had some questions I called and Skip talked to me for over 20 minutes.  He's passionate in his advocacy of LDN and his prices are unbelievably low.  I just spent more money at Dairy Queen for ice cream for a family of four than I did for a month's supply of LDN.  As far as I'm concerned this guy is just plain nuts.   Pete     Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Off Topic: FDA to take a harder look at custom blending of drugs >> eli wrote:here is no quality control in these>> pharmacy.that is not true.>> hese pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing>> conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an>> example of such arrogance.your kidding me. right.skip's pharmacy paid over 1000 dollars to print the books for the last ldn conference which was the biggest expense. we donated thousands of hours to film it edited and put it together. I don't even know how much it cost. i'm afraid to figure it out. I know I spent 6 weeks editing it and is still work that needs to be done. skip pharmacy is paying me to complete a documentary on ldn that I hope will be played at film festivals to let people not only know about ldn but about how people are treated when they go to the doctors and are blown off.skip's pharmacy has done two retrospective studiesone on side effectsone on effectivenessand if it wasn't for skip you all would still be getting calcium carbonate in your ldn because he is the one that brought to the table.skip himself set our prices so they would be low so no one could say they couldn't afford their ldn.he has put himself on the line for all ldners and spent his time and considerable effect making sure that when it goes out it goes out right and that every person that works in the pharmacy has a good understanding of not only the drug but the people behind it.cyndiOn Sep 5, 2006, at 7:13 PM, doofus117 wrote:> Skip? Arrogance? Prices that are out of control? Proof? Now....>> i hardly call $67 for three months out of control......$1000 to $1500> a month.....out of control.....>>>>> >>>>>> Pharmacies grow concerned as agency decides 'compounding' creates>>> unapproved therapies>>> By Diedtra , Globe Staff August 29, 2006>>>>>> WASHINGTON -- The Food and Drug Administration has reversed its>> hands->>> off stance toward pharmacists who custom-blend drugs using bulk>>> ingredients and is pledging stricter oversight of their work,>> known>>> as compounding.>>>>>> The change is a concern for pharmacies that make hormone>> replacement>>> therapies and other treatments based on doctors' specifications.>>> Compounding pharmacies, like Drug in Waltham, blend and>>> dispense up to 5 percent of the nation's prescription treatments.>>> Their customized products can feature lower drug doses for>> children>>> or omit an ingredient to which patients are allergic. Until now,>> the>>> FDA has quietly condoned the practice...>>>>>>>>> http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2006/08/29/fda_to_>> t>>> ake_a_harder_look_at_custom_blending_of_drugs/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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>

> I can understand why : there is no quality control in these

> pharmacy. How do we know what they are putting in the stuff ??

>

> also, these pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing

> conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an

> example of such arrogance.

>

> Really, the best way to compound is to do-ityourself, from the FDA

> approved pills (i.e. the 50 mg)... you know exactly what you're

> putting in, and you can control the amount .

>

So you think Skip's Pharmacy is ripping off their customers selling

bogus, dangerous medication at outrageous prices? My monthly supply of

LDN costs me around $25.00 and it's keeping my MS in check. I'm happy.

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Guest guest]

Jeez, what planet are you on??? Even though I live in Australia I can

tell from everything that people post that Skip has really good prices

on LDN in order to help anybody who needs it get it and not be ripped

off as some pharmacies do. What about all the time and effort Skip and

his team put into promoting LDN in order to get the word out as much as

possible? The DVD they have produced so doctors can see what it's all

about - countless hours of work for no financial reward for them, just

the satisfaction of spreading the word. The time they are prepared to

take answering questions from people who ring them.

Skip's arrogance??? No way chum! YOUR IGNORANCE! :-(

Eli wrote:

>I can understand why : there is no quality control in these

>pharmacy. How do we know what they are putting in the stuff ??

>

>also, these pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing

>conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an

>example of such arrogance.

>

>Really, the best way to compound is to do-ityourself, from the FDA

>approved pills (i.e. the 50 mg)... you know exactly what you're

>putting in, and you can control the amount .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Eli, I have to agree. What makes you think such a thing? Everyone or most of us need to earn a living. What better way is there than helping thousands of lives for a very fair price and you know what you are getting. It is important to me to feel I have a safe and consistent dose of LDN to take every night for approximately 75 cents a day . What on earth is your beef? Having a bad day? Please show respect where it is deserved. The alternatives are not healthy or inexpensive. Best, Kathy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Off Topic: FDA to take a harder look at custom blending of drugs

Jeez, what planet are you on??? Even though I live in Australia I can tell from everything that people post that Skip has really good prices on LDN in order to help anybody who needs it get it and not be ripped off as some pharmacies do. What about all the time and effort Skip and his team put into promoting LDN in order to get the word out as much as possible? The DVD they have produced so doctors can see what it's all about - countless hours of work for no financial reward for them, just the satisfaction of spreading the word. The time they are prepared to take answering questions from people who ring them.Skip's arrogance??? No way chum! YOUR IGNORANCE! :-(Eli wrote:>I can understand why : there is no quality control in these >pharmacy. How do we know what they are putting in the stuff ?? >>also, these pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing >conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an >example of such arrogance.>>Really, the best way to compound is to do-ityourself, from the FDA >approved pills (i.e. the 50 mg)... you know exactly what you're >putting in, and you can control the amount . > >

[Guest guest]

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> I can understand why : there is no quality control in these

> pharmacy. How do we know what they are putting in the stuff ??

>

> also, these pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing

> conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an

> example of such arrogance.

>

> Really, the best way to compound is to do-ityourself, from the FDA

> approved pills (i.e. the 50 mg)... you know exactly what you're

> putting in, and you can control the amount .

>

These same arguments may be made about the big pharmaceutical

companies. How do we know exactly what ingredients are in each big

pharma tablet that we take? The patent website will tell us many of

the ingredients, but there could be some differences such as cellulose

vs. microcrystalline cellulose that aren't obvious.

The quality control is reflected in the documentation. Whoever is

making a drug will have a documentation trail of what happened in the

lab when the product was made. The FDA should be able to inspect the

documents. Based on your grammar and spelling, you should be careful

making your LDN.

[Guest guest]

That is funny!!!! and true.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Off Topic: FDA to take a harder look at custom blending of drugs

>> I can understand why : there is no quality control in these > pharmacy. How do we know what they are putting in the stuff ?? > > also, these pharmacies are becoming monopolysts and imposing > conditions and prices that no one can control. Skipp pharmacy is an > example of such arrogance.> > Really, the best way to compound is to do-ityourself, from the FDA > approved pills (i.e. the 50 mg)... you know exactly what you're > putting in, and you can control the amount . > These same arguments may be made about the big pharmaceutical companies. How do we know exactly what ingredients are in each big pharma tablet that we take? The patent website will tell us many of the ingredients, but there could be some differences such as cellulose vs. microcrystalline cellulose that aren't obvious.The quality control is reflected in the documentation. Whoever is making a drug will have a documentation trail of what happened in the lab when the product was made. The FDA should be able to inspect the documents. Based on your grammar and spelling, you should be careful making your LDN.