Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should not be used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate addiction remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing one addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 love to know this too I am european I love to get 1 or 2 glasses wine a day... let me know please tony [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should not be used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate addiction remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing one addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I ask the dr. who give me ldn he say no roblem .. wine is o.k. tony [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~ I just have to say this! It is funny to me.....The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on in California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise in May and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN.I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. Funny they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and be on LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at times and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well.This is just funny to me.I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking just a glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha!Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 can I have a glass or two of wine while on ldn ??? [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~ I just have to say this! It is funny to me.....The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on in California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise in May and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN.I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. Funny they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and be on LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at times and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well.This is just funny to me.I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking just a glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha!Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I've drank alcoholic beverages while on LDN, they just didnt affect me as much. I would think a couple glasses of wine would be absolutely ok. [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should not be used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate addiction remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing one addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Hi, The answer is....(drum roll)...because it is fermented. It could encourage a yeast problem. > > love to know this too I am european I love to get 1 or 2 glasses wine a day... let me know please tony > [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ > > > > I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should not be > used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate addiction > remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing one > addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer out > there? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 but that could be ANYONE, couldnt it?? [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~> > > > I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should not be > used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate addiction > remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing one > addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer out > there?> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 There's growth and there's overgrowth. Listen to: " The Fungus Among Us: Is It Overgrowth Or Overweight? Yeast are commonly found in the body but when they overgrow, they influence every organ system and its function from weight loss resistance to carbohydrate cravings to brain fog. Learn how mycotoxins, produced through the yeast lifecycle, affect your ability to function optimally in everyday life. Learn how to battle these small but mighty beasts. " http://www.annlouise.com/alg_audio_seminars.asp > > > > love to know this too I am european I love to get 1 or 2 > glasses wine a day... let me know please tony > > [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ > > > > > > > > I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should > not be > > used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate addiction > > remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing one > > addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer > out > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 ok, but I'm a little lost. What does that have to do with LDN????:0) > > > > > > love to know this too I am european I love to get 1 or 2 > > glasses wine a day... let me know please tony > > > [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should > > not be > > > used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate > addiction > > > remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing > one > > > addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer > > out > > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Look at old posts. There is constant conversation about how candida yeast 'overgrowth' inhibits the work of LDN. posted this today... " Also, watching doctor McCandless' work with LDN and Autism, LDN in most of her patients activates underlying candida yeast and until that yeast is lowered in the gut, the LDN does not work well or at all. " > > > > > > > > love to know this too I am european I love to get 1 or 2 > > > glasses wine a day... let me know please tony > > > > [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol > should > > > not be > > > > used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate > > addiction > > > > remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing > > one > > > > addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this > answer > > > out > > > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I'm not to crazy about this candida overgrowth theory. I have a hard time believing it. > > Look at old posts. There is constant conversation about how candida > yeast 'overgrowth' inhibits the work of LDN. posted this > today... > " Also, watching doctor McCandless' work with LDN and Autism, LDN in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 > > > > Look at old posts. There is constant conversation about how candida > > yeast 'overgrowth' inhibits the work of LDN. posted this > > today... > > " Also, watching doctor McCandless' work with LDN and Autism, LDN in > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 So Crap! I missed out on wine! I was told by someone I trusted that I shouldn't drink and I told a friend they shouldn't drink while on LDN. I don't understand! Crap! I was buying Virgin Pina Colodas (sp?) and paying the same price, as if it did have alcohol...cause I thought okay....i will barf if I take LDN and alcohol. I don't know what to believe. I feel like a fool telling my friend no now. Thanks, donna www.freewebs.com/lovelaugh/ > > I ask the dr. who give me ldn he say no roblem .. wine is o.k. tony > [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~ > > > I just have to say this! It is funny to me..... > The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on in > California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise in May > and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN. > I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. Funny > they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and be on > LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at times > and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well. > This is just funny to me. > > I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking just a > glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha! > > Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 lesson learned: dont believe everything you hear!!:0))))) [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~> > > I just have to say this! It is funny to me.....> The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on in > California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise in May > and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN.> I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. Funny > they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and be on > LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at times > and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well.> This is just funny to me.> > I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking just a > glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha!> > Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I am on LDN and I have had Sangria in the past. Yesterday, my husband made pina colda's and daiquiris. I had one of each. No problem. It is my understanding that you can have alcohol but you may feel it faster or be able to drink more with LDN. I haven't noticed any difference. I don't drink to get drunk and haven't gotten drucn! That is my 2 cents! -- [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ So Crap! I missed out on wine! I was told by someone I trusted that I shouldn't drink and I told a friend they shouldn't drink while on LDN. I don't understand! Crap! I was buying Virgin Pina Colodas(sp?) and paying the same price, as if it did have alcohol...cause I thought okay....i will barf if I take LDN and alcohol. I don't know what to believe. I feel like a fool telling my friend no now. Thanks, donnawww.freewebs.com/lovelaugh/>> I ask the dr. who give me ldn he say no roblem .. wine is o.k. tony> [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~> > > I just have to say this! It is funny to me.....> The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on in > California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise in May > and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN.> I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. Funny > they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and be on > LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at times > and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well.> This is just funny to me.> > I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking just a > glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha!> > Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 thank you so much for your email....tony [low dose naltrexone] Re: Alcohol and LDN~ I am wondering if there is a chemical reason why alcohol should not be used, or if because LDN was originally used for opiate addiction remediation, that the doctors were guarded against replacing one addiction with another. Is there anyone who knows this answer out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 second dr I ask he say it is o.k. to drink wine.... I have both dr. name if you want I give it to you... tony [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~> > > I just have to say this! It is funny to me.....> The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on in > California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise in May > and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN.> I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. Funny > they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and be on > LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at times > and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well.> This is just funny to me.> > I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking just a > glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha!> > Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 > > > > I ask the dr. who give me ldn he say no roblem .. wine is > o.k. tony > > [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~ > > > > > > I just have to say this! It is funny to me..... > > The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on > in > > California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise > in May > > and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN. > > I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. > Funny > > they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and > be on > > LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at > times > > and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well. > > This is just funny to me. > > > > I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking > just a > > glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha! > > > > Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone. I have a website group on suboxone and I had just finished some research on naltrexone and it was using it to treat alcoholism. If you drink on top of naltrexone alot of the effect from the alcohol will be blocked. Due to the fact that the same mu receptors that opiates bind to and naltrexone blocks, works the same way with alcohol since it's so closely related per chemical bioavailability and stimulate opioid receptor activity.Naltrexone does not appear to alter the absorption or metabolism of alcohol and does not have major adverse effects when combined with alcohol. Some people, however, have noted increased nausea caused by drinking and naltrexone combined.It can reduce the effects of alcohol. Naltrexone is broken down by the liver but if you know someone on antabuse for alcoholism please inform them that it can cause liver damage and/or failure. I have loads of info on naltrexone and it's effects and if anyone would like it, I would be glad to send it to you. It's great to keep learning information and I had no idea that naltrexone can cause candida to form so abundantly. That can be a severe problem for many women. A question I have is that it's known that men can have it also after being exposed to their girlfriend, wife, etc. and the question is that would it cause it to proliferate in men? I know some doctors think that men cant get it but through research I have found loads of information that says otherwise and many highly respected doctors who do also. Sky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 > Hello everyone. I have a website group on suboxone and I had just > finished some research on naltrexone and it was using it to treat > alcoholism. If you drink on top of naltrexone alot of the effect > from the alcohol will be blocked. Due to the fact that the same mu > receptors that opiates bind to and naltrexone blocks, works the same > way with alcohol since it's so closely related per chemical > bioavailability and stimulate opioid receptor activity.Naltrexone > does not appear to alter the absorption or metabolism of alcohol and > does not have major adverse effects when combined with alcohol. Some > people, however, have noted increased nausea caused by drinking and > naltrexone combined.It can reduce the effects of alcohol. Naltrexone > is broken down by the liver but if you know someone on antabuse for > alcoholism please inform them that it can cause liver damage and/or > failure. I have loads of info on naltrexone and it's effects and if > anyone would like it, I would be glad to send it to you. > > It's great to keep learning information and I had no idea that > naltrexone can cause candida to form so abundantly. That can be a > severe problem for many women. A question I have is that it's known > that men can have it also after being exposed to their girlfriend, > wife, etc. and the question is that would it cause it to proliferate > in men? I know some doctors think that men cant get it but through > research I have found loads of information that says otherwise and > many highly respected doctors who do also. Sky > > > -- My understanding is naltrexone doesn't " cause " candida. Already having an overgrowth of the yeast renders the LDN ineffective thereby exacerbating the symptoms of whatever is ailing you. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 > It's great to keep learning information and I had no idea that > naltrexone can cause candida to form so abundantly. That can be a > severe problem for many women. A question I have is that it's known > that men can have it also after being exposed to their girlfriend, > wife, etc. and the question is that would it cause it to proliferate > in men? I know some doctors think that men cant get it but through > research I have found loads of information that says otherwise and > many highly respected doctors who do also. Sky Sky, Don't know where you got the idea that naltrexone can CAUSE candida to form so abundantly as it doesn't. I also believe that you are confusing thrush and candida in the second part of your post. Thrush is only one manifestation of candida so whilst it may be argued that men can't get thrush (I have no idea) men can certainly have candida. In fact I know one poor bastard who has candida related problems so badly (due to a bug he picked up in Bali) that he is currently undergoing radical treatment under medical supervision that amounts to what most people would term " poop " transplants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Seems that there is so much confusion around Candida, probably because traditional Western doctors rarely, if ever, discuss it. From what I understand, EVERYONE, male and female, have a certain amount of yeast in their system. It's when there becomes an overgrowth that there is a problem. Symptoms vary from person to person. Typically, a swollen gut (gassy feeling) is usually involved. Fatigue, headaches, difficulty losing weight are several others. Nystatin (prescription drug) has been around for 40 years, so doctors have known that yeast is a problem. (Statin??? Makes me wonder if this is why some MS patients see improvements on the cholesterol lowering STATINS???) I think if one has nail fungus it is closely related to yeast. At least it's a problem too. Yes, yeast can be sexually transmitted, but that doesn't necessarilly mean that only one had it to start with. Marcie covoyg <covo@...> wrote: > It's great to keep learning information and I had no idea that > naltrexone can cause candida to form so abundantly. That can be a > severe problem for many women. A question I have is that it's known > that men can have it also after being exposed to their girlfriend, > wife, etc. and the question is that would it cause it to proliferate > in men? I know some doctors think that men cant get it but through > research I have found loads of information that says otherwise and > many highly respected doctors who do also. SkySky,Don't know where you got the idea that naltrexone can CAUSE candida toform so abundantly as it doesn't. I also believe that you are confusing thrush and candida in the secondpart of your post. Thrush is only one manifestation of candida sowhilst it may be argued that men can't get thrush (I have no idea) mencan certainly have candida. In fact I know one poor bastard who hascandida related problems so badly (due to a bug he picked up in Bali)that he is currently undergoing radical treatment under medicalsupervision that amounts to what most people would term "poop"transplants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Sure Tony I would love the doctors names. Thanks. Donna www.freewebs.com/lovelaugh/ > > > > I ask the dr. who give me ldn he say no roblem .. wine is > o.k. tony > > [low dose naltrexone] Alcohol and LDN~ > > > > > > I just have to say this! It is funny to me..... > > The Accelerated Cure Project is having a .....conference going on > in > > California on Sept. 17 is have wine tasting. I went on a cruise > in May > > and was told absolutely no alcohol while on LDN. > > I am sure there will be people there on LDN at this gathering. > Funny > > they would have wine tasting there. But maybe you can drink and > be on > > LDN. I sure was disappointed though. I like a glass of wine at > times > > and really missed out when I went on that cruise. Oh well. > > This is just funny to me. > > > > I know of people who drink and are on LDN. And I am not talking > just a > > glass of wine. Tipsy drankers! haha! > > > > Oh well, thanks for letting me speak! donna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Hi Marcie, "Nystatin (prescription drug) has been around for 40 years, so doctors have known that yeast is a problem. (Statin??? Makes me wonder if this is why some MS patients see improvements on the cholesterol lowering STATINS???) " Yes Marcie, makes me wonder too ... - you're a good sleuth! Regards, Cris 5c. Re: Alcohol and LDN~ Posted by: "Marcie " marcie_martin@... minniedog11998 Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 7:39 am (PDT)Seems that there is so much confusion around Candida, probably because traditional Western doctors rarely, if ever, discuss it. From what I understand, EVERYONE, male and female, have a certain amount of yeast in their system. It's when there becomes an overgrowth that there is a problem. Symptoms vary from person to person. Typically, a swollen gut (gassy feeling) is usually involved. Fatigue, headaches, difficulty losing weight are several others. Nystatin (prescription drug) has been around for 40 years, so doctors have known that yeast is a problem. (Statin??? Makes me wonder if this is why some MS patients see improvements on the cholesterol lowering STATINS???) I think if one has nail fungus it is closely related to yeast. At least it's a problem too. Yes, yeast can be sexually transmitted, but that doesn't necessarilly mean that only one had it to start with. Marcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Statins are hard on the liver --- Case Health Pty Ltd <casehealth@...> wrote: > Hi Marcie, > > " Nystatin (prescription drug) has been around for 40 > years, so doctors have known that yeast is a > problem. (Statin??? Makes me wonder if this is why > some MS patients see improvements on the cholesterol > lowering STATINS???) " > > Yes Marcie, makes me wonder too ... - you're a good > sleuth! > > Regards, > Cris > > > 5c. Re: Alcohol and LDN~ > Posted by: " Marcie " > marcie_martin@... minniedog11998 > Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 7:39 am (PDT) > > Seems that there is so much confusion around > Candida, probably because traditional Western > doctors rarely, if ever, discuss it. > > From what I understand, EVERYONE, male and female, > have a certain amount of yeast in their system. > It's when there becomes an overgrowth that there is > a problem. Symptoms vary from person to person. > Typically, a swollen gut (gassy feeling) is usually > involved. Fatigue, headaches, difficulty losing > weight are several others. Nystatin (prescription > drug) has been around for 40 years, so doctors have > known that yeast is a problem. (Statin??? Makes me > wonder if this is why some MS patients see > improvements on the cholesterol lowering STATINS???) > > > I think if one has nail fungus it is closely > related to yeast. At least it's a problem too. > > Yes, yeast can be sexually transmitted, but that > doesn't necessarilly mean that only one had it to > start with. > > Marcie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Thank goodness I don't have a cholesterol problem. On paper, according to my bloodwork, I'm the healthiest person I know. Go figure??? Marcie M B <skippertulip2@...> wrote: Statins are hard on the liver --- Case Health Pty Ltd <casehealthoptusnet.au>wrote:> Hi Marcie,> > "Nystatin (prescription drug) has been around for 40> years, so doctors have known that yeast is a> problem. (Statin??? Makes me wonder if this is why> some MS patients see improvements on the cholesterol> lowering STATINS???) "> > Yes Marcie, makes me wonder too ... - you're a good> sleuth!> > Regards,> Cris> > > 5c. Re: Alcohol and LDN~> Posted by: "Marcie "> marcie_martinsbcglobal (DOT) net minniedog11998> Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 7:39 am (PDT)> > Seems that there is so much confusion around> Candida, probably because traditional Western> doctors rarely, if ever, discuss it.> > From what I understand, EVERYONE, male and female,> have a certain amount of yeast in their system. > It's when there becomes an overgrowth that there is> a problem. Symptoms vary from person to person. > Typically, a swollen gut (gassy feeling) is usually> involved. Fatigue, headaches, difficulty losing> weight are several others. Nystatin (prescription> drug) has been around for 40 years, so doctors have> known that yeast is a problem. (Statin??? Makes me> wonder if this is why some MS patients see> improvements on the cholesterol lowering STATINS???)> > > I think if one has nail fungus it is closely> related to yeast. At least it's a problem too.> > Yes, yeast can be sexually transmitted, but that> doesn't necessarilly mean that only one had it to> start with.> > Marcie__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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