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Try adding a magnesium supplement, 400 mg daily. Magnesium

is good for cleansing and elimination. " Since magnesium is a major

muscle relaxant, it helps restore good bowel tone and normal

peristalsis --that alternating muscle relaxation and contraction in

the intestines. " (Ann Louise Gittleman author of The Fat Flush Plan)

Common culprits for losing Magnesium in our body are coffee, tea,

soda and alcohol. Additional magnesium deficiency symptoms are

nervousness, irritability, depression fatigue, palpitations, tremors

and spasms.

You may also want to add psyllium husk fiber. It comes in

capsules or powder.

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Something that has come up

> in our conversations is the fact that we seem to have

> far less bowel movements than others. I don't mean

> since the onset of MS, I understand that MS changes

> many things in many different ways - more that we

> always have had very few bowel movements.

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any recommendations on a particular supplement (brand, etc). Sounds interesting!>> Try adding a magnesium supplement, 400 mg daily. Magnesium > is good for cleansing and elimination. "Since magnesium is a major > muscle relaxant, it helps restore good bowel tone and normal > peristalsis --that alternating muscle relaxation and contraction in > the intestines."(Ann Louise Gittleman author of The Fat Flush Plan) > Common culprits for losing Magnesium in our body are coffee, tea, > soda and alcohol. Additional magnesium deficiency symptoms are > nervousness, irritability, depression fatigue, palpitations, tremors > and spasms.> You may also want to add psyllium husk fiber. It comes in > capsules or powder.

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Actually, I usually buy my suppliments at either Walmart or he

Vitamin Shoppe. The magnesium that I have is Spring Valley and the

psyllium husk capsules are Solgar. I choose them mostly for

conveniece and price.

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> > Try adding a magnesium supplement, 400 mg daily. Magnesium

> > is good for cleansing and elimination. " Since magnesium is a major

> > muscle relaxant, it helps restore good bowel tone and normal

> > peristalsis --that alternating muscle relaxation and contraction

in

> > the intestines. " (Ann Louise Gittleman author of The Fat Flush

Plan)

> > Common culprits for losing Magnesium in our body are coffee, tea,

> > soda and alcohol. Additional magnesium deficiency symptoms are

> > nervousness, irritability, depression fatigue, palpitations,

tremors

> > and spasms.

> > You may also want to add psyllium husk fiber. It comes in

> > capsules or powder.

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1. eat more fiber

2. try some enzymes like completegest -it will help break down your

food so you can absorb what you need and eliminate the rest

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> Try adding a magnesium supplement, 400 mg daily. Magnesium

> is good for cleansing and elimination. " Since magnesium is a major

> muscle relaxant, it helps restore good bowel tone and normal

> peristalsis --that alternating muscle relaxation and contraction in

> the intestines. " (Ann Louise Gittleman author of The Fat Flush Plan)

> Common culprits for losing Magnesium in our body are coffee, tea,

> soda and alcohol. Additional magnesium deficiency symptoms are

> nervousness, irritability, depression fatigue, palpitations, tremors

> and spasms.

> You may also want to add psyllium husk fiber. It comes in

> capsules or powder.

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> Something that has come up

>> in our conversations is the fact that we seem to have

>> far less bowel movements than others. I don't mean

>> since the onset of MS, I understand that MS changes

>> many things in many different ways - more that we

>> always have had very few bowel movements.

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Hi,

Thanks for all your replies. I'm really more

interested and curious about whether we all were

iregular before diagnosis rather than what we can do

to solve the problem now. Although I'm sure the advice

will benefit others in the group.

I'm just trying to see if there's a connection between

us that could explain our MS. Could we have brought

this on unknowingly by being full of toxins most of

our lives?

Thanks again.

Mark

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A good question.

My husband was always pretty regular as far as bowel movements.

He had 5 strikes in place before getting MS.

1. A whole month of intense stress just before coming down with symptoms.

2. He had been drinking diet sodas for about 4 months prior to his symptoms.

3. He had Mono as a child.

4. He is a May baby.

5. He has a sibling with MS.

Aletha

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> Hi,

>

> Thanks for all your replies. I'm really more

> interested and curious about whether we all were

> iregular before diagnosis rather than what we can do

> to solve the problem now. Although I'm sure the advice

> will benefit others in the group.

>

> I'm just trying to see if there's a connection between

> us that could explain our MS. Could we have brought

> this on unknowingly by being full of toxins most of

> our lives?

>

> Thanks again.

> Mark

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>

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> ease of use. " - PC Magazine

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Hi Mark,

I've been reading info on the connection between 'leaky gut' and auto-immune conditions such as MS. Your theory about toxins in our systems makes perfect sense to me! I have had this problem, too, for as long as I can remember (before MS). If the toxins are not passing through the digestive tract, but leaching into our bloodstreams, well, all hell breaks loose!

I'm in the process of switching my diet to (hopefully) aleviate this issue and others. If you're interested, I plan on following the "Best Bet Diet", designed specifically for MSers. From the info I've been reading, certain dietary changes alone can improve MS symptoms for many people.

Helen

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I think constipation is a normal MS symptom. It might be that our intestines just aren't moving everything along as well as they should.

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here is a good explanation of leaky gut.

http://osiris.sunderland.ac.uk/autism/gut.htm

there is a huge connection think between the stomach and a whole host

of things and once you start healing the stomach then a lot of things

will feel better. we were talking aloe on the list and someone was

saying when you buy those liquid aloes there is not much in there and

its better to grow your own.

does it taste any better right off the plant?

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I believe that is absolutely true. Natural peristalsis is very dependent on the type of movement you do. the more you move the better the little waves in the stomach go. but you guys also have difficulty absorbing things. call leaky gut call it slowed down belly muscles whatever.  if you feel like you have give a name yo can call it leaky gut or inflamed bowels.  I don't think it matters what its called but it should be your objective to a have a good satisfying BM everyday.i don't think its healthy to be constipated. (it certainly can't be good for you right)A friend of mine that has ms was complaining of terrible bloating and constipation.  I suggested she add some more  greens to her diet. Brought her some of that aloe (it was peppermint flavored so it was gross but not gross as no flavor) to heal her stomach. brought her some completegest - completeGest is a blend of vegetarian enzymes (in a vegetable capsule) that are active across a broad pH range in the digestive tract. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who had a ulcers or history of ulcers. I like it because it seems safer then other enzymes and does the trick. there is a relationship between your stomach and aches and pains and stuff.cyndiOn Aug 4, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Sir Real wrote: I think constipation is a normal MS symptom.  It might be that our intestines just aren't moving everything along as well as they should.

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Hi, is drinking diet soda a suspected cause of MS? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'd like to know why having Mono or being a May baby are strikes too. Eve

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the group>>> Hi,>> Thanks for all your replies. I'm really more> interested and curious about whether we all were> iregular before diagnosis rather than what we can do> to solve the problem now. Although I'm sure the advice> will benefit others in the group.>> I'm just trying to see if there's a connection between> us that could explain our MS. Could we have brought> this on unknowingly by being full of toxins most of> our lives?>> Thanks again.> Mark>>>>>> __________________________________________________________> All new "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and > ease of use." - PC Magazine> http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html>>>>

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Hi Eve,

Most diet products have aspartame in them. Aspartame is a huge problem. I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems. My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too. Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift. A while on a few of them had MS. It is just a suspicion at this point.

In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May. The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life. So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.

Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono. They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.

Kind regards

Aletha

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the group>>> Hi,>> Thanks for all your replies. I'm really more> interested and curious about whether we all were> iregular before diagnosis rather than what we can do> to solve the problem now. Although I'm sure the advice> will benefit others in the group.>> I'm just trying to see if there's a connection between> us that could explain our MS. Could we have brought> this on unknowingly by being full of toxins most of> our lives?>> Thanks again.> Mark>>>>>> __________________________________________________________> All new "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and > ease of use." - PC Magazine> http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html>>>>

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Interesting, thanks. I drank diet soda almost exclusively for more years than I care to remember. We lived in Morocco for three years where the water was not safe to drink and we lived on coke. When we came back stateside, I was thrilled to find there was a no calorie coke. I stayed with it through several evolutions of artificial sweetener until I developed a tremor and began this creeping numbness in the 90's. I stopped then. I've never had mono but I do test positive for Epstein Barr virus, doesn't almost everyone? I was a preemie, born in Nov. in WI. Very little sun to no sun. Do we all keep trying to find the One Reason we have this?

My sister in law has the rapidly progressing kind with no relapses. Hers came on smack in the middle of a divorce that came on her like a train wreck. One day she thought she had the ideal life and the next she lost everything she cherished. I've always felt that was her trigger.

I wish it would cool off. Eve

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the group>>> Hi,>> Thanks for all your replies. I'm really more> interested and curious about whether we all were> iregular before diagnosis rather than what we can do> to solve the problem now. Although I'm sure the advice> will benefit others in the group.>> I'm just trying to see if there's a connection between> us that could explain our MS. Could we have brought> this on unknowingly by being full of toxins most of> our lives?>> Thanks again.> Mark>>>>>> __________________________________________________________> All new "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and > ease of use." - PC Magazine> http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html>>>>

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My son has leaky gut due to Mercury and Lead Toxicity in his system.

He never had well formed stools after his Dtap MMR and Varicella

vaccine. Soon after he regressed socially and cognitively and was

diagnosed with Autism.

We treat his gut with yeast fighters, probiotics, and antobiotics.

He never showed signs of the leaky gut other than the poor behaviors

and tantrums, yet it was still there causing him to suffer. The

bacteria crossed the blood brain barrier and caused the nerological

deficits to emerge.

We are chelating him to remove the heavy metals and fighting yeast

and bacteria that flare up as we go on.

He is also on LDN .5 ml nightly to help his immune system as well.

I think many anomalies of many neurological disorders are rooted

from toxins in the world we live in. Those with weakened immune

systems really get the brunt of it all.

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> Hi Mark,

>

> I've been reading info on the connection between 'leaky gut' and

auto-immune

> conditions such as MS. Your theory about toxins in our systems

makes

> perfect sense to me! I have had this problem, too, for as long as

I can

> remember (before MS). If the toxins are not passing through the

digestive

> tract, but leaching into our bloodstreams, well, all hell breaks

loose!

>

> I'm in the process of switching my diet to (hopefully) aleviate

this issue

> and others. If you're interested, I plan on following the " Best

Bet Diet " ,

> designed specifically for MSers. From the info I've been reading,

certain

> dietary changes alone can improve MS symptoms for many people.

>

> Helen

>

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for the

> group

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Thanks for all your replies. I'm really more

> interested and curious about whether we all were

> iregular before diagnosis rather than what we can do

> to solve the problem now. Although I'm sure the advice

> will benefit others in the group.

>

> I'm just trying to see if there's a connection between

> us that could explain our MS. Could we have brought

> this on unknowingly by being full of toxins most of

> our lives?

>

> Thanks again.

> Mark

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________________

> All new " The new Interface is stunning in its

simplicity and

> ease of use. " - PC Magazine

> http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html

>

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Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake.  if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar. cyndiOn Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:Hi Eve, Most diet products have aspartame in them.  Aspartame is a huge problem.  I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems.  My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too.  Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift.  A while on a few of them had MS.    It is just a suspicion at this point. In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May.  The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life.  So they did not get vitamin D from the sun. Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono.  They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).  Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here. Kind regardsAletha      

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And much of the sugar is from corn syrup which is horrible for us. Eve

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Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake. if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar.

cyndi

On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:

Hi Eve,

Most diet products have aspartame in them. Aspartame is a huge problem. I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems. My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too. Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift. A while on a few of them had MS. It is just a suspicion at this point.

In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May. The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life. So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.

Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono. They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.

Kind regards

Aletha

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Can anyone tell me if they are in the Cleveland, Ohio area and if they have a doctor here perscribing LDN? Is Dr.Bilhari still practicing medicine in NY?

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Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake. if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar. cyndi

On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:

Hi Eve,

Most diet products have aspartame in them. Aspartame is a huge problem. I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems. My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too. Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift. A while on a few of them had MS. It is just a suspicion at this point.

In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May. The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life. So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.

Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono. They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.

Kind regards

Aletha

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well exactly -- i'm a chronic label reader - stevia seems to be a good sweetener that no has anything bad to say aboutcyndiOn Aug 4, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Eve wrote: And much of the sugar is from corn syrup which is horrible for us.   Eve Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the group Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake.  if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar.  cyndi On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote: Hi Eve,   Most diet products have aspartame in them.  Aspartame is a huge problem.  I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems.  My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too.  Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift.  A while on a few of them had MS.    It is just a suspicion at this point.   In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May.  The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life.  So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.   Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono.  They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).    Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.   Kind regards Aletha           

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I read this as I drink my tea with Stevia in it. It takes a while to get used to it, but now I prefer it to sugar in my tea.

It is also listed on the acid/Alkaline chart as being Alkaline.

Aletha

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Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake. if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar.

cyndi

On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:

Hi Eve,

Most diet products have aspartame in them. Aspartame is a huge problem. I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems. My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too. Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift. A while on a few of them had MS. It is just a suspicion at this point.

In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May. The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life. So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.

Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono. They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.

Kind regards

Aletha

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Yes Dr. Bihari is still practicing. Check Crystal's website to see about her list of doctors that prescribe.

Aletha

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the group

Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake. if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar. cyndi

On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:

Hi Eve,

Most diet products have aspartame in them. Aspartame is a huge problem. I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems. My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too. Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift. A while on a few of them had MS. It is just a suspicion at this point.

In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May. The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life. So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.

Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono. They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.

Kind regards

Aletha

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i think if you kook at the whole thing that a little suger in your tea is not going to hurt anyone. but i think when you look at a can of soda that has zillions of grams of sugar thats another story totally.cyndiOn Aug 4, 2006, at 8:23 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:I read this as I drink my tea with Stevia in it.  It takes a while to get used to it, but now I prefer it to sugar in my tea. It is also listed on the acid/Alkaline chart as being Alkaline. Aletha Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the groupwell exactly -- i'm a chronic label reader - stevia seems to be a good sweetener that no has anything bad to say aboutcyndiOn Aug 4, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Eve wrote:And much of the sugar is from corn syrup which is horrible for us.   Eve

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Thank you. I am new. What is Crystal's website? The regular ldn website?

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the group

Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake. if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar. cyndi

On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:

Hi Eve,

Most diet products have aspartame in them. Aspartame is a huge problem. I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems. My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too. Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift. A while on a few of them had MS. It is just a suspicion at this point.

In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May. The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life. So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.

Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono. They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.

Kind regards

Aletha

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Hi Connie,

Crystal is on our chat site and she had created her own web site. I have it listed in the "Welcome e-mail" would you like me to send you a copy?

Thanks

Aletha

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: OT - Bowel movement question for the group

Aletha you did a fine job explaining it. Aspartame is bad stuff. and unfortunately the band wagon now is using it for everything because people are watching their sugar intake. if look at the labels of "low fat" food it usually has less fat but more sugar. cyndi

On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Aletha Wittmann wrote:

Hi Eve,

Most diet products have aspartame in them. Aspartame is a huge problem. I am not an expert but as far as I know it goes thought the blood brain barrier and that can cause problems. My understanding is that it also turns to formaldehyde at a certain temperature too. Someone reported that a group of nurses in a hospital were all drinking diet soda as it was readily available to them every time they were on shift. A while on a few of them had MS. It is just a suspicion at this point.

In a large study it was noted that a majority of people with MS were born in the months of April and May. The strongest correlation the study could come up with is that maybe the babies were not getting enough sunshine at certain months of their early life. So they did not get vitamin D from the sun.

Another strong suggestion for those with MS has been a strong number of MS'res have had Mono. They wonder if maybe a virus was the on-set lurking in the background until other things come up (like extreme stress).

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in medicine could explain these items more efficiently that what I have done here.

Kind regards

Aletha

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