Re: Intro and question about the introductory phase of the diet

[Guest guest]

Welcome Sherri,

> Hi everyone, my name is Sherri and I have been pondering using the

> SCD diet in our family for some time now. My son, 5, has pretty

major

> encopresis and constipation, and he will soon be evaluated for

ADHD

> (he also has Tourette's syndrome, but I'm not expecting diet to

> change that) let's just say that I think that he should be happier

> and less angry than he is. We've tried food elimination diets

before,

> and my husband is adamantly opposed to trying another diet. We're

not

> on any special diet now. We eat dairy and gluten containing

products.

>

> My question about the introductory phase of the diet is whether

it's

> necessary for everyone and how long we should do it if there

aren't

> clear sensitivity issues.

It is better if you can do the intro diet but not essential.. For

constipation we suggest 2-3 day.

There is some important information on constipation and the diet at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

Go to the " Knowledge Base " and then to

1. " Constipation " and

2. " Constipation continued "

If you have trouble getting the info let me know.

Sheila, SCD 59 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Sherri,

I would start with the intro diet, even though it will be hard.

Otherwise, it will be difficult for you to see what foods might be

problematic for him.

It's not necessary for your husband to join your son on the diet since

he is feeling uncomfortable about it right now. Perhaps you could

just make an SCD dinner each night and allow your husband to eat

whatever he wants for breakfast and lunch. Perhaps once he sees your

son feeling better, he will be more apt to join in and eat SCD with

everyone.

But if the diet is causing tension in the home, it will be a lot

harder on you.

Keep in mind that SCD should consist of eating a lot of vegetables and

fruits. Elaine said no more than that equivalent of 3 muffins a day

for an adult. A child would be more along the lines of 2.

Honestly, I think it is easier in the long run if you work to find

dishes that are appealing without resorting to giving a lot of treats.

Things to use to soften stool other than Miralax would be Magnesium

Citrate and the constipation remedies that Sheila mentioned (on

breakingtheviciouscycle.info).

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

>

> Sherri,

>

> I would start with the intro diet, even though it will be hard.

> Otherwise, it will be difficult for you to see what foods might be

> problematic for him.

>

> It's not necessary for your husband to join your son on the diet

since

> he is feeling uncomfortable about it right now. Perhaps you could

> just make an SCD dinner each night and allow your husband to eat

> whatever he wants for breakfast and lunch. Perhaps once he sees

your

> son feeling better, he will be more apt to join in and eat SCD with

> everyone.

>

> But if the diet is causing tension in the home, it will be a lot

> harder on you.

Thanks for the feedback. The tension is actually more around putting

the kids through more dietary restriction and the restrictions on our

out-of-the-home activities. I had forgotten that the intro. diet was

pretty short.

>

> Keep in mind that SCD should consist of eating a lot of vegetables

and

> fruits. Elaine said no more than that equivalent of 3 muffins a day

> for an adult. A child would be more along the lines of 2.

>

> Honestly, I think it is easier in the long run if you work to find

> dishes that are appealing without resorting to giving a lot of

treats.

Yes, you are right, of course. It is also that part of our weekly

routine is having a day where we make bread and either muffins or

cookies, so it's more about baking something that we will like

(although the treat factor is there).

>

> Things to use to soften stool other than Miralax would be Magnesium

> Citrate and the constipation remedies that Sheila mentioned (on

> breakingtheviciouscycle.info).

>

another question then. I was planning to wean off of miralax while on

the diet. Is miralax/glyphosate an " illegal food " in a sense? would

taking it at all invalidate the benefit of the diet? My son really

does have a significantly stretched out bowel and will start

witholding even very soft poop. I'll have to look for mag citrate

that's not premixed in a sugar drink.

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Sherri,

>

> I would start with the intro diet, even though it will be hard.

> Otherwise, it will be difficult for you to see what foods might be

> problematic for him.

>

> It's not necessary for your husband to join your son on the diet

since

> he is feeling uncomfortable about it right now. Perhaps you could

> just make an SCD dinner each night and allow your husband to eat

> whatever he wants for breakfast and lunch. Perhaps once he sees

your

> son feeling better, he will be more apt to join in and eat SCD with

> everyone.

>

> But if the diet is causing tension in the home, it will be a lot

> harder on you.

Thanks for the feedback. The tension is actually more around putting

the kids through more dietary restriction and the restrictions on our

out-of-the-home activities. I had forgotten that the intro. diet was

pretty short.

>

> Keep in mind that SCD should consist of eating a lot of vegetables

and

> fruits. Elaine said no more than that equivalent of 3 muffins a day

> for an adult. A child would be more along the lines of 2.

>

> Honestly, I think it is easier in the long run if you work to find

> dishes that are appealing without resorting to giving a lot of

treats.

Yes, you are right, of course. It is also that part of our weekly

routine is having a day where we make bread and either muffins or

cookies, so it's more about baking something that we will like

(although the treat factor is there).

>

> Things to use to soften stool other than Miralax would be Magnesium

> Citrate and the constipation remedies that Sheila mentioned (on

> breakingtheviciouscycle.info).

>

another question then. I was planning to wean off of miralax while on

the diet. Is miralax/glyphosate an " illegal food " in a sense? would

taking it at all invalidate the benefit of the diet? My son really

does have a significantly stretched out bowel and will start

witholding even very soft poop. I'll have to look for mag citrate

that's not premixed in a sugar drink.

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>