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JULIE, I WISH THIS WAS NEW TERRITORY. LOL SOLUMEDROL

IS A DOWN REGULATOR. LIQUID, HIGH DOSE STEROIDS. NEVER

HEARD OF A 2 DAY TREATMENT WITH IT. 3 OR 5 IS THE

USUAL I THINK. IMO, I'D SAY KEEP ON THE LDN. JUST

OPINION THOUGH.

HI NANCY! OFF TO MEET THE NEW NEURO IN A FEW HOURS. OH

JOY. LOL

DONNA

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Hi Donna - Thanks for the reply. I hadn't been reading the posts for

a few days as I was out of town. I posted before I had read the old

posts. So, I got that info, afterward.

As far as using SoluMedrol goes, after 2 years of steady decline and

regular trips to the hospital to get IV SoluMedrol (3 days each time),

my neuro proposed I get the SoluMedrol powder (the same vial used

to mix the IV), mix it in my favorite smoothie and drink it down

("...you won't even taste it!").

I made myself a nice big smoothie, my favorite flavor, so I could "hide"

the SoluMedrol powder in it. Yeghck!!!! It was the most vial tasting

stuff on the planet, I'm convinced. Somehow, I had to get the whole

thing down! Seeing my valiant efforts, my ever-loving, practical, husband

(an engineer by trade and personality) who loves - and lives - to solve

problems, suggested we pack the powder into empty capsules and take

it that way! Voila! Problem solved! No bitter, awful taste. Six (size-00)

capsules and a glass of water later, and they're down!

Gotta love those engineers!

How I got to taking the SoluMedrol orally in the first place was because

my neuro suggested that instead of having to come in every 3-4 months

for the IV SoluMedrol because of having new or continued disease activity,

we could hopefully slow progression down and calm the MS by doing a

once-a-month pulse of SoluMedrol. It did help keep me from having the

exacerbations. Also, if I felt myself going downhill into an episode, I took

one dose of SoluMedrol and I would be back up and going again. Sometimes

it would take two doses on consecutive days to pull me out of one. However,

using the SoluMedrol orally successfully kept me from progressing for two

years.

Now, LDN has kept me from progressing for another year (as of September).

The latest MRI shows no progression for the past 3 years! I haven't taken

SoluMedrol since March of this year...and that last time was because I felt

myself going into an episode. I keep it on hand just in case...but haven't

needed it in the past 5 months...and counting!

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> Has anyone had experience using both LDN and Solu-Medrol? Are there

> cross reactions using them together? What is Solu-Medrol's action on

> the immune system? Strengthening or supressing? Should I go off LDN

> for a day or more before taking a one- or two-day pulse of Solu-Medrol,

> then wait another couple days before going back on LDN? Anyone know?

> Or am I in new territory with this one? Thanks.

>

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Dr. Bihari really hates for one to use steroids but in case one is under extreme

stress, illness, etc and is experiencing a severe exacerbation, is the only time

Bihari says it's okay to use steroids and even in these situations Bihari

recommends continuing to take LDN while on steroids.

Below is from Dr. Lawrence who has MS himself and uses LDN to treat his MS.

Because LDN stimulates the immune system and many of the drugs routinely used by

the NHS in the treatment of MS further suppress the immune system, LDN cannot be

used in company with steroids, beta interferon, methotrexate, azathioprine or

mitozantrone or any other immune suppressant drug. If there is any doubt, please

submit a full list of the drugs you are presently taking so that their

compatibility may be assessed.

In addition, because LDN will also block the analgesic effects of any opiate

drugs (includes codeine, dihydrocodeine, morphine, pethidine or diamorphine)

presently being taken, the use of LDN will initially greatly increase the level

of pain experienced. It is therefore advisable that any opiate-like drugs be

discontinued at least two weeks before this treatment is initiated. When

starting the treatment it is essential that any untoward or adverse side-effects

are reported immediately so that the treatment process can be further assessed

and, if necessary, modified.

Dr. M R Lawrence

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Hi Connie -

....Where did you get the capsules?...

We purchased the vegetarian-based empty capsules from

our local health food store. We've also purchase them online

before. They aren't very expensive.

....I was wondering why you could not just take 50 -20 mg pills...

I don't know why you couldn't take it that way, although

50 pills sounds like a lot to get down versus the 6 capsules.

However, your doctor might be able to prescribe higher dose

tablets so you could reduce the total number you need to swallow.

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Hi Gayle,

"I'm still sitting at home waiting for the hospital to fit me in..."

In response to the above, when the hospital was backlogged, my

neurologist used to offer to do the IV in her office. They put

me in a back room and started the IV. I left after 30 minutes...

15 minutes after they finished the IV.

I wonder if you could convince your doctor to do the IV in his or

her office. It might be worth a try...

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