Re: Lactase that is LEGAL for breast feeding infants on SCDiet?

February 26, 2006

>

> I hope I am not out of line, but I can't imagine that Elaine would

> rule BREASTFEEDING illegal!

>

> It does not make sense to exclude human babies from drinking human

> milk. There are too many natural substances in human milk to exclude

> it from a baby's diet. For heaven sakes, what are we supposed to do,

> feed them formula from birth? That doesn't make sense. Thousands of

> research studies now show conclusively that formula-fed babies are

> sicker throughout their entire lives than breastfed babies. Diabetes,

> heart disease, cancer, and on and on ... these are all linked to

> formula feeding. In addition, there are dozens of gut-protective

> factors and probiotics in breastmilk. I hope this doesn't get me

> kicked off the list, but I felt I had to speak up on this topic.

>

Of course you will not be kicked off the list for posting this valid concern.

There are references to lactase on Elaine's website:

http://ccgi.cobbler.plus.com/search.php?q=lactase

and in BTVC page 77 edition 10 and some previous pages (see index).

Although we can use a few drops in whipping cream, other treated milks like

Lactaid and

Lacteeze are not permitted.

You seem to be doing a lot of careful research to answer your quest but I think

Elaine went

through most of these things over time and stated her parameters. Perhaps she

didn't give

enough detailed reasons for her decisions but I put a lot of trust in Elaine's

protocols.She

is one of the few diet authorities I trust.

Carol F.

February 27, 2006

Zyme Prime has lactase, the enzyme that digests lactose. You could mix it in a

small amount

of food before breast feeding. The Zyme Prime is made by Houston

Nutriceuticals,

#1-, website at www.houstonni.com

Ask for the SCD legal version.

Carolyn

>

> I have no intentions of weaning...After all...I agree the formulas all are

FULL OF

FORBIDDENS....and breast milk is known by Lactation Consultants as " LIQUID GOLD "

for sick

babies. I just need some LACTASE to help her to digest her human milk.....does

anybody

have a ligal name of LACTASE supplement/enzyme. She shows signs of TURE

LACTOS

intolerance which Elaine says goes along with the " Vicious Cycle " .

February 27, 2006

Zyme Prime has lactase, the enzyme that digests lactose. You could mix it in a

small amount

of food before breast feeding. The Zyme Prime is made by Houston

Nutriceuticals,

#1-, website at www.houstonni.com

Ask for the SCD legal version.

Carolyn

>

> I have no intentions of weaning...After all...I agree the formulas all are

FULL OF

FORBIDDENS....and breast milk is known by Lactation Consultants as " LIQUID GOLD "

for sick

babies. I just need some LACTASE to help her to digest her human milk.....does

anybody

have a ligal name of LACTASE supplement/enzyme. She shows signs of TURE

LACTOS

intolerance which Elaine says goes along with the " Vicious Cycle " .

February 27, 2006

Zyme Prime has lactase, the enzyme that digests lactose. You could mix it in a

small amount

of food before breast feeding. The Zyme Prime is made by Houston

Nutriceuticals,

#1-, website at www.houstonni.com

Ask for the SCD legal version.

Carolyn

>

> I have no intentions of weaning...After all...I agree the formulas all are

FULL OF

FORBIDDENS....and breast milk is known by Lactation Consultants as " LIQUID GOLD "

for sick

babies. I just need some LACTASE to help her to digest her human milk.....does

anybody

have a ligal name of LACTASE supplement/enzyme. She shows signs of TURE

LACTOS

intolerance which Elaine says goes along with the " Vicious Cycle " .

February 27, 2006

>

> But all of the HNI Enyzmes are legal, except the flavored chewables.

>

> There was a concern at first about the rice bran, but after Elaine

> discussed the issue with Devin Houston, it was resolved and she said

> that the rice bran enzymes would be fine for SCD.

Oh, that is great to know! I thought I would have to go buy the

different formulas.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

February 27, 2006

>

> But all of the HNI Enyzmes are legal, except the flavored chewables.

>

> There was a concern at first about the rice bran, but after Elaine

> discussed the issue with Devin Houston, it was resolved and she said

> that the rice bran enzymes would be fine for SCD.

Oh, that is great to know! I thought I would have to go buy the

different formulas.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

February 27, 2006

>

> But all of the HNI Enyzmes are legal, except the flavored chewables.

>

> There was a concern at first about the rice bran, but after Elaine

> discussed the issue with Devin Houston, it was resolved and she said

> that the rice bran enzymes would be fine for SCD.

Oh, that is great to know! I thought I would have to go buy the

different formulas.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

February 27, 2006

>

> I know for a fact that my daughter can not tolerate rice. (we have

tried

> it before and ended up in the hospital with diarrhea that could not be

> controlled)...I hope that I can get a lactase enzyme especially

compounded

> for her so that we can retain our breast feeding relationship, since

human

> milk is best for infants/toddlers with Celiac Disease. Where do you

find

> HNI Enzymes????

" Zyme Prime " would be what you'd want then. You might not need a

compound done, this has no rice in it. From their website:

" Each capsule of Zyme Prime contains:

Amylase....................12,000 DU

Glucoamylase..................25 AGU

Protease 4.5..............40,000 HUT

CereCalaseT...................400 MU

Alpha-Galactosidase.........200 GalU

Lactase.....................1500 ALU

Lipase.....................200 FCCLU

Cellulose, medium-chain triglyceride oil, water

Zyme Prime is free of rice, gluten, casein, soy, MSG, salicylates,

sugar, and artificial colors. "

Houston

http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/Section.asp?SID=3537&N=Zyme%2

0Prime> Nutraceuticals Inc

Toll free number:1(866)757-8627

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

February 27, 2006

http://www.houstonni.com

You can use the enzymes with cellulose filler instead of rice bran.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 27, 2006

http://www.houstonni.com

You can use the enzymes with cellulose filler instead of rice bran.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 27, 2006

http://www.houstonni.com

You can use the enzymes with cellulose filler instead of rice bran.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 27, 2006

Hi Antoinette,

> Does anyone have experience with knowing where to find LEGAL

lactase.

> The enzymes that where prescribed by my infant/toddlers doctor

have

> all but this one in it. That being Creon 5. Where can you find

this?

> Lactaid, that we used in the past has Illegal ingrediants in it! I

now

> know why she still has thick diarrhea (yet better)...and she still

has

> a white coated tongue!

>

> It dawned on me after reviewing the book, that " all fluid milk "

has to

> be prohibited. The problem is, this baby is not going to be

weaning

> soon....the breast is not just a place of nutrition but a place of

> comfort. I nursed my son until he was 40 months old, something

> recommended for babies that have malabosrption syndromes/Celiac

> Disease. Her pediatrician and lactaion consultants that have

helped us

> say to nurse as long as she will...or grows out of it. It has

been

> are saving grace! Yet the lactose in my milk is ILLEGAL and needs

to

> be turned in to a legal monodisacharide with the enzyme lactase.

>

> The problem is...human milk has LACTOSE in it.....if I could find

a

> leagal LACTASE we would be having even BETTER SUCCESS on this

diet.

> She is truly turning around already....with this extra aid...I can

> only imagine the benifits of this SCDiet. I now understand the

need

> for enzymes! Sorry if past messages did not reflect this

> understanding.

>

> Concerned Breast Feeding Mother, Antoinette

Please read this discussion on lactose in breastmilk including

Elaine's responses from our old list. The summary is that once the

mother is SCD legal than the child should imporve:

http://lyris.dundee.net/read/messages?id=251380#251380

I am not 100% sure on this but I believe that breastmilk also

contains the enzymes needed to break down lactose. If you store the

milk and heat it up the enzymes may be broken down but it likely

depends on high heated etc...

What would also be important is what you eat. You may want to go

back to a basic SCD diet. If you eat cabbage etc. (food she isn't

ready for) this may bother your daughter.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of and

February 27, 2006

Maybe I'm confused... do you want to supplement the enzyme lactase

to render breastmilk " legal " on SCD??

There's no need.

Breastmilk contains lactase among other enzymes.

And probiotics. And macrophages and immunoglobulins...

Jane and Luke

SCD since 9/05 after he weaned at age of 2 and his gut went totally

downhill!! BM *is* liquid gold for the gut.

> >

> > Does anyone have experience with knowing where to find LEGAL

> lactase.

> > The enzymes that where prescribed by my infant/toddlers doctor

have

> > all but this one in it. That being Creon 5. Where can you find

> this?

> > Lactaid, that we used in the past has Illegal ingrediants in

it! I

> now

> > know why she still has thick diarrhea (yet better)...and she

still

> has

> > a white coated tongue!

> >

> > It dawned on me after reviewing the book, that " all fluid

milk " has

> to

> > be prohibited. The problem is, this baby is not going to be

> weaning

> > soon....the breast is not just a place of nutrition but a

place of

> > comfort. I nursed my son until he was 40 months old,

something

> > recommended for babies that have malabosrption

syndromes/Celiac

> > Disease. Her pediatrician and lactaion consultants that have

helped

> us

> > say to nurse as long as she will...or grows out of it. It has

been

> > are saving grace! Yet the lactose in my milk is ILLEGAL and

needs

> to

> > be turned in to a legal monodisacharide with the enzyme

lactase.

> >

> > The problem is...human milk has LACTOSE in it.....if I could

find a

> > leagal LACTASE we would be having even BETTER SUCCESS on this

> diet.

> > She is truly turning around already....with this extra aid...I

can

> > only imagine the benifits of this SCDiet. I now understand

the

> need

> > for enzymes! Sorry if past messages did not reflect this

> > understanding.

> >

> > Concerned Breast Feeding Mother, Antoinette

> >

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

February 27, 2006

Maybe I'm confused... do you want to supplement the enzyme lactase

to render breastmilk " legal " on SCD??

There's no need.

Breastmilk contains lactase among other enzymes.

And probiotics. And macrophages and immunoglobulins...

Jane and Luke

SCD since 9/05 after he weaned at age of 2 and his gut went totally

downhill!! BM *is* liquid gold for the gut.

> >

> > Does anyone have experience with knowing where to find LEGAL

> lactase.

> > The enzymes that where prescribed by my infant/toddlers doctor

have

> > all but this one in it. That being Creon 5. Where can you find

> this?

> > Lactaid, that we used in the past has Illegal ingrediants in

it! I

> now

> > know why she still has thick diarrhea (yet better)...and she

still

> has

> > a white coated tongue!

> >

> > It dawned on me after reviewing the book, that " all fluid

milk " has

> to

> > be prohibited. The problem is, this baby is not going to be

> weaning

> > soon....the breast is not just a place of nutrition but a

place of

> > comfort. I nursed my son until he was 40 months old,

something

> > recommended for babies that have malabosrption

syndromes/Celiac

> > Disease. Her pediatrician and lactaion consultants that have

helped

> us

> > say to nurse as long as she will...or grows out of it. It has

been

> > are saving grace! Yet the lactose in my milk is ILLEGAL and

needs

> to

> > be turned in to a legal monodisacharide with the enzyme

lactase.

> >

> > The problem is...human milk has LACTOSE in it.....if I could

find a

> > leagal LACTASE we would be having even BETTER SUCCESS on this

> diet.

> > She is truly turning around already....with this extra aid...I

can

> > only imagine the benifits of this SCDiet. I now understand

the

> need

> > for enzymes! Sorry if past messages did not reflect this

> > understanding.

> >

> > Concerned Breast Feeding Mother, Antoinette

> >

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

February 27, 2006

Maybe I'm confused... do you want to supplement the enzyme lactase

to render breastmilk " legal " on SCD??

There's no need.

Breastmilk contains lactase among other enzymes.

And probiotics. And macrophages and immunoglobulins...

Jane and Luke

SCD since 9/05 after he weaned at age of 2 and his gut went totally

downhill!! BM *is* liquid gold for the gut.

> >

> > Does anyone have experience with knowing where to find LEGAL

> lactase.

> > The enzymes that where prescribed by my infant/toddlers doctor

have

> > all but this one in it. That being Creon 5. Where can you find

> this?

> > Lactaid, that we used in the past has Illegal ingrediants in

it! I

> now

> > know why she still has thick diarrhea (yet better)...and she

still

> has

> > a white coated tongue!

> >

> > It dawned on me after reviewing the book, that " all fluid

milk " has

> to

> > be prohibited. The problem is, this baby is not going to be

> weaning

> > soon....the breast is not just a place of nutrition but a

place of

> > comfort. I nursed my son until he was 40 months old,

something

> > recommended for babies that have malabosrption

syndromes/Celiac

> > Disease. Her pediatrician and lactaion consultants that have

helped

> us

> > say to nurse as long as she will...or grows out of it. It has

been

> > are saving grace! Yet the lactose in my milk is ILLEGAL and

needs

> to

> > be turned in to a legal monodisacharide with the enzyme

lactase.

> >

> > The problem is...human milk has LACTOSE in it.....if I could

find a

> > leagal LACTASE we would be having even BETTER SUCCESS on this

> diet.

> > She is truly turning around already....with this extra aid...I

can

> > only imagine the benifits of this SCDiet. I now understand

the

> need

> > for enzymes! Sorry if past messages did not reflect this

> > understanding.

> >

> > Concerned Breast Feeding Mother, Antoinette

> >

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

February 27, 2006

I'm thinking that sounded smarmy... I didn't mean to!!

If you do think it will make a difference there is an lactase enzyme

product with just glycerine and water called Colief:

http://www.colief.com/faq.htm

The other issue with breastfeeding and the lactose issues is the

amount of fat in your milk. This greatly changes with diet and what

you eat directly influences the fat in your milk, for example, if

you eat trans fats they appear in your milk. If you eat traditional

fats like butter, cod liver oil, coconut oil, your breastmilk with

be richer in fats and the lactose percentage is reduced. This is

common in the early days of bf'ing with oversupply, too much

foremilk it's called and not enough hindmilk, the fatty stuff.

However, it's not always talked about that the mother's diet greatly

influences the content of her milk and that needs to be taken into

consideration if there is a problem with a babe's digestion. And how

SCD is that!

Jane and Luke

SCD since 9/05

> > >

> > > Does anyone have experience with knowing where to find LEGAL

> > lactase.

> > > The enzymes that where prescribed by my infant/toddlers

doctor

> have

> > > all but this one in it. That being Creon 5. Where can you

find

> > this?

> > > Lactaid, that we used in the past has Illegal ingrediants in

> it! I

> > now

> > > know why she still has thick diarrhea (yet better)...and she

> still

> > has

> > > a white coated tongue!

> > >

> > > It dawned on me after reviewing the book, that " all fluid

> milk " has

> > to

> > > be prohibited. The problem is, this baby is not going to be

> > weaning

> > > soon....the breast is not just a place of nutrition but a

> place of

> > > comfort. I nursed my son until he was 40 months old,

> something

> > > recommended for babies that have malabosrption

> syndromes/Celiac

> > > Disease. Her pediatrician and lactaion consultants that have

> helped

> > us

> > > say to nurse as long as she will...or grows out of it. It

has

> been

> > > are saving grace! Yet the lactose in my milk is ILLEGAL and

> needs

> > to

> > > be turned in to a legal monodisacharide with the enzyme

> lactase.

> > >

> > > The problem is...human milk has LACTOSE in it.....if I could

> find a

> > > leagal LACTASE we would be having even BETTER SUCCESS on

this

> > diet.

> > > She is truly turning around already....with this extra

aid...I

> can

> > > only imagine the benifits of this SCDiet. I now understand

> the

> > need

> > > for enzymes! Sorry if past messages did not reflect this

> > > understanding.

> > >

> > > Concerned Breast Feeding Mother, Antoinette

> > >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and

read

> the following websites:

> >

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

> cycle.info/>

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >

February 27, 2006