Re: To Vicky : Adding gluten again

[Guest guest]

Thankyou. If I can convince my husband, I think we will try the

enzymes before going off the diet. It will probably save alot of time

and un-necessary aggravation for us AND our daughter. It sounds like

our daughter is having the same type of troubles as your child was.

But, I think we will wait until after the holidays to start them. We

are going out of town and I don't need to deal with the side effects

(if there are any) when we are visiting family.

I do have another question: We just recently removed all soy products

because I wanted to see if that was causing her icky bowel movements.

Well, for the past few days, her BM's have not improved, and she has

grown worse in behavior. Could this be from withdrawal of soy? Does

withdrawal happen with all foods that cause reactions, or just from

the casein and gluten?

--Vicky

> The thing is, we had been gfcf with no success for two years, so I

assumed

> the diet

> wasn't working. But, after I have read about all the other foods

causing the

> opiates,

> I started wondering if the diet was perhaps helping a bit, but the

other

> foods we were

> allowing him to have instead of the gluten/casein were causing new

> sensitivities and

> new peptides due to his leaky gut and intestinal inflammation.

Every time I

> took him

> to the allergist, we were finding more and more food allergies.

There was

> hardly

> anything he wasn't sensitive to. So his behavior really never

improved. I

> assumed

> the diet wasn't working and decided to abandon it. Then we started

both the

> enzymes and -- now almost nine weeks later, no more digested food

in his bms,

> sleeping better, calmer, more focused at school, more appropriate

language,

> etc.

> We still have days that are better than others, therefore, we are

going to go

> gfcf

> over the holidays to see if that helps further.

>

> So, I really believe if you can swing it, try the enzymes while

still gfcf.

> Then after a while, you can add these back to see if they are a

problem. It

> is much easier than the other way around. Plus, if you go off the

diet and

> then back on, it takes quite a while to clear the body of the

peptides.

>

> I hope you come to a comfortable decision. I realize it is

difficult.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/14/01 10:49:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

stankus3@... writes:

> I do have another question: We just recently removed all soy products

> because I wanted to see if that was causing her icky bowel movements.

> Well, for the past few days, her BM's have not improved, and she has

> grown worse in behavior. Could this be from withdrawal of soy? Does

> withdrawal happen with all foods that cause reactions, or just from

> the casein and gluten?

>

>

Vicky -

Soy is considered one of the " big three " in terms of peptides/opiates - I

hear repeatedly from members on this list that gluten, casein and soy

probably produce the most peptides. So, I would guess it is withdrawal.

Have you looked at the

Q and A section on the Houston Nutraceuticals website? There is alot of

information

on the Houston enzymes and how they help our kids. Go to www.houstonni.com.

Also, have you checked the files section of the discussion

list?

It is loaded with information on everything -- how to take the enzymes, what

to expect in terms of withdrawal, etc.

Good luck!!! (I know what you mean about the holidays; I must be crazy doing

the

gfcf over the holidays, but I'd like to spare the teachers any unnecessary

aggravation

if he does go thru withdrawal!!).

Celia

[Guest guest]

> I do have another question: We just recently removed all soy

products

> because I wanted to see if that was causing her icky bowel

movements.

> Well, for the past few days, her BM's have not improved, and she has

> grown worse in behavior. Could this be from withdrawal of soy? Does

> withdrawal happen with all foods that cause reactions, or just from

> the casein and gluten?

>

My son experienced withdrawal symptoms from all foods which he did not

tolerate. But it can also be your substitution. What are you

substituting for the soy? For example, if your child was drinking soy

beverage, but now is drinking apple or grape juice, that would

probably be the culprit.

Dana