Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 > i know the answer to this. hypo folks should not be rock and/or mountain climbing. period. Laughing. Actually, you have presented an interesting idea. CAN any of get to the point that we can do something as vigorous as that? Now there are several of you like me, who went a long time either untreated, or poorly treated with T4-only meds. Did we sustain damage as Cindi may wisely suspect, and that will ultimately prevent us from doing something as profound as mountain climbing?? I do know that before peri-meno started hitting me, and after I corrected my low Ferritin, I WAS able to stand all day, moving around doing many things, and get home with energy. Whether that equates to being able to climb a mountain, I don't know. But it was definitely an improved regular life. Now that peri-meno has hit, my energy has slipped backwards. I think we have more issues to discover. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 12:10:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, usns@... writes: > Did we sustain > damage as Cindi may wisely suspect, and that will ultimately prevent > us from doing something as profound as mountain climbing?? > > I think it's not only " damage " as in tissue damage perhaps...from long term untreated or undertreated....but I can remember reading somewhere ...where hypo is an altered metabolic state. I can't remember all the details now...but basically it was like having a broken thermostat...and so your body couldn't regulate normally. SO...I can only imagine the SHOCK of a mountain climb to a hypo body. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 12:10:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, usns@... writes: > Did we sustain > damage as Cindi may wisely suspect, and that will ultimately prevent > us from doing something as profound as mountain climbing?? > > I think it's not only " damage " as in tissue damage perhaps...from long term untreated or undertreated....but I can remember reading somewhere ...where hypo is an altered metabolic state. I can't remember all the details now...but basically it was like having a broken thermostat...and so your body couldn't regulate normally. SO...I can only imagine the SHOCK of a mountain climb to a hypo body. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 12:10:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, usns@... writes: > Did we sustain > damage as Cindi may wisely suspect, and that will ultimately prevent > us from doing something as profound as mountain climbing?? > > I think it's not only " damage " as in tissue damage perhaps...from long term untreated or undertreated....but I can remember reading somewhere ...where hypo is an altered metabolic state. I can't remember all the details now...but basically it was like having a broken thermostat...and so your body couldn't regulate normally. SO...I can only imagine the SHOCK of a mountain climb to a hypo body. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 10:39:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > I agree with what you say about having an altered metabolic state and a > broken thermostat. and I think this is especially true in those of us who are taking full replacement dosages. Our pituitary and hypothalamus is out of the loop then, right? So there's nobody turning up the heat in the house...but us with our Armour. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Not to throw a spanner in the conversation, or to change the subject but would like to mention that what got in the way of me checking out my hypo status until last month, was the fact that I am always HOT. I thought I could not possibly have hypo issues as the cold is always so heavily emphasised as a major symptom. Penny's worth... Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Not to throw a spanner in the conversation, or to change the subject but would like to mention that what got in the way of me checking out my hypo status until last month, was the fact that I am always HOT. I thought I could not possibly have hypo issues as the cold is always so heavily emphasised as a major symptom. Penny's worth... Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 11:40:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > I wonder why it is then that I get progessively hotter with the slightest > exertion when it would take a person without hypo a lot more exertion to start > feeling hot. Any ideas? Will this go away if and when we are at optimal > replacement. > lol. i am reading this right after coming in from working abt outside...where i noticed the same thing about me. I was hot almost immediately and started peeling off layers - it's not even 60 outside...and I'm VERY warm. I have read something about this...but can't remember it now...but i think it's basically all related to the " broke thermostat " ...our body does not adjust up and down ...regulating temperature...properly. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 11:40:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > I wonder why it is then that I get progessively hotter with the slightest > exertion when it would take a person without hypo a lot more exertion to start > feeling hot. Any ideas? Will this go away if and when we are at optimal > replacement. > lol. i am reading this right after coming in from working abt outside...where i noticed the same thing about me. I was hot almost immediately and started peeling off layers - it's not even 60 outside...and I'm VERY warm. I have read something about this...but can't remember it now...but i think it's basically all related to the " broke thermostat " ...our body does not adjust up and down ...regulating temperature...properly. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 11:48:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, hepaction@... writes: > was the fact that I am always HOT. I thought I could not > possibly have hypo issues as the cold is always so heavily emphasised as a > major symptom. > true - there are hypos on either side. my mom was one who was always hot. And if she went outside in the heat, sweat would just POUR off her face. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 11:48:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, hepaction@... writes: > was the fact that I am always HOT. I thought I could not > possibly have hypo issues as the cold is always so heavily emphasised as a > major symptom. > true - there are hypos on either side. my mom was one who was always hot. And if she went outside in the heat, sweat would just POUR off her face. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 > Now that peri-meno has hit, my energy has slipped backwards. _____________________- Just recently, It think I finally got to menopause. I am going to throw a party when I know for sure, because fertility was so wasted on me. Now I am free to gripe, be cranky and a total jerk and people will have to just deal with it. But, anyway, since not having a period for two months, I am actually feeling better. Much more even and generally pretty good. The peri-meno just has so much up and down and all over the place stuff. You never know what's what. It's achallenge to separate out that from all the thyroid/adrenal related stuff. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 > Now that peri-meno has hit, my energy has slipped backwards. _____________________- Just recently, It think I finally got to menopause. I am going to throw a party when I know for sure, because fertility was so wasted on me. Now I am free to gripe, be cranky and a total jerk and people will have to just deal with it. But, anyway, since not having a period for two months, I am actually feeling better. Much more even and generally pretty good. The peri-meno just has so much up and down and all over the place stuff. You never know what's what. It's achallenge to separate out that from all the thyroid/adrenal related stuff. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 > Now that peri-meno has hit, my energy has slipped backwards. _____________________- Just recently, It think I finally got to menopause. I am going to throw a party when I know for sure, because fertility was so wasted on me. Now I am free to gripe, be cranky and a total jerk and people will have to just deal with it. But, anyway, since not having a period for two months, I am actually feeling better. Much more even and generally pretty good. The peri-meno just has so much up and down and all over the place stuff. You never know what's what. It's achallenge to separate out that from all the thyroid/adrenal related stuff. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Well I found out one thing for sure... When hypos get ill, their conversion must drop to nothing. I am severely hypo right now even on the same dosage I have been on for about a year. I woke up this morning to 94 degree temp. The old aches returned with a vengeance and I popped an extra 2 grain Armour, went back to bed then at 7 AM took my regular morning dosage. I feel better already. I know for some of you a 2 grain in one day additional would send you over the roof, but for me being ill for almost 2 weeks, it is probably about right. Now if I can remember to do this NEXT time I get sick... Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Well I found out one thing for sure... When hypos get ill, their conversion must drop to nothing. I am severely hypo right now even on the same dosage I have been on for about a year. I woke up this morning to 94 degree temp. The old aches returned with a vengeance and I popped an extra 2 grain Armour, went back to bed then at 7 AM took my regular morning dosage. I feel better already. I know for some of you a 2 grain in one day additional would send you over the roof, but for me being ill for almost 2 weeks, it is probably about right. Now if I can remember to do this NEXT time I get sick... Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Cindi I agree with what you say about having an altered metabolic state and a broken thermostat. Whenever I do anything that involves using energy, even just doing some light cleaning, I start removing clothes - good job nobody can see in our windows otherwise they might get a shock Lynda (in the UK) Re: Can hypo folks climb mountains?? I think it's not only " damage " as in tissue damage perhaps...from long term untreated or undertreated....but I can remember reading somewhere ...where hypo is an altered metabolic state. I can't remember all the details now...but basically it was like having a broken thermostat...and so your body couldn't regulate normally. SO...I can only imagine the SHOCK of a mountain climb to a hypo body. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 3:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > a new brain...a new brain...a new brain > NO...I was in line first! pushing her way forward, cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 3:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > new feet, these ones don't work properly - and can I have smaller ones this > time? > a new brain...a new brain...a new brain > one new set of intestines please. maybe one new pair of lungs just in case they are right about smoking. hair that is the original color. new facial skin. new knees (not hypo related - but heck, as long as we're asking) cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 3:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > new feet, these ones don't work properly - and can I have smaller ones this > time? > a new brain...a new brain...a new brain > one new set of intestines please. maybe one new pair of lungs just in case they are right about smoking. hair that is the original color. new facial skin. new knees (not hypo related - but heck, as long as we're asking) cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 I saw this question earlier this morning and I've been thinking about it. Actually I think I am climbing mountains every day! Now, I have no desire to climb a physical mountain - that is just not my thing, but most of my days are uphill battle that feel like mountains. ;-) I am married (for 25 years to a wonderful man, my high school sweetheart & the love of my life); have 2 wonderful teen sons (the oldest has a low thyroid problem that has probably manifested as Body Dysmorphic Disorder); work a full time job; teach a 12th grade girls sunday school class; work with 100 teenagers at church; exercise 5 days a week (walk 30 to 40 miles a month for exercise); have way too many family and friends that lean on me and desire my wonderful attention; have shoulders that many lean on ;-) spend way too much time on this computer; etc etc etc But I know ya'll get the idea! ;-) I know all of us are different and our hypo affects us in different ways and some can do more than others, but I find that the more I exercise the better I feel and the more energy I have. I mean maybe some with hypo are really tired and can only do a few minutes at a time, but I'm sure that most would notice when they exercise that they feel better (mentally & physicially) and have more energy to live life! Everything I have read says that exercise is much more effective and more important than any antidepressant that we might take. That's some pretty potent stuff - exercise I mean! ;-) Can ya tell I'm feeling really good on my 3 grains of Armour Thyroid!!!!! Ok now I've got to get off this computer and go do my 4 miles, before I talk myself into sitting here and playing. Hope everyone has a blessed day as they climb those mountains! Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 I saw this question earlier this morning and I've been thinking about it. Actually I think I am climbing mountains every day! Now, I have no desire to climb a physical mountain - that is just not my thing, but most of my days are uphill battle that feel like mountains. ;-) I am married (for 25 years to a wonderful man, my high school sweetheart & the love of my life); have 2 wonderful teen sons (the oldest has a low thyroid problem that has probably manifested as Body Dysmorphic Disorder); work a full time job; teach a 12th grade girls sunday school class; work with 100 teenagers at church; exercise 5 days a week (walk 30 to 40 miles a month for exercise); have way too many family and friends that lean on me and desire my wonderful attention; have shoulders that many lean on ;-) spend way too much time on this computer; etc etc etc But I know ya'll get the idea! ;-) I know all of us are different and our hypo affects us in different ways and some can do more than others, but I find that the more I exercise the better I feel and the more energy I have. I mean maybe some with hypo are really tired and can only do a few minutes at a time, but I'm sure that most would notice when they exercise that they feel better (mentally & physicially) and have more energy to live life! Everything I have read says that exercise is much more effective and more important than any antidepressant that we might take. That's some pretty potent stuff - exercise I mean! ;-) Can ya tell I'm feeling really good on my 3 grains of Armour Thyroid!!!!! Ok now I've got to get off this computer and go do my 4 miles, before I talk myself into sitting here and playing. Hope everyone has a blessed day as they climb those mountains! Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 I saw this question earlier this morning and I've been thinking about it. Actually I think I am climbing mountains every day! Now, I have no desire to climb a physical mountain - that is just not my thing, but most of my days are uphill battle that feel like mountains. ;-) I am married (for 25 years to a wonderful man, my high school sweetheart & the love of my life); have 2 wonderful teen sons (the oldest has a low thyroid problem that has probably manifested as Body Dysmorphic Disorder); work a full time job; teach a 12th grade girls sunday school class; work with 100 teenagers at church; exercise 5 days a week (walk 30 to 40 miles a month for exercise); have way too many family and friends that lean on me and desire my wonderful attention; have shoulders that many lean on ;-) spend way too much time on this computer; etc etc etc But I know ya'll get the idea! ;-) I know all of us are different and our hypo affects us in different ways and some can do more than others, but I find that the more I exercise the better I feel and the more energy I have. I mean maybe some with hypo are really tired and can only do a few minutes at a time, but I'm sure that most would notice when they exercise that they feel better (mentally & physicially) and have more energy to live life! Everything I have read says that exercise is much more effective and more important than any antidepressant that we might take. That's some pretty potent stuff - exercise I mean! ;-) Can ya tell I'm feeling really good on my 3 grains of Armour Thyroid!!!!! Ok now I've got to get off this computer and go do my 4 miles, before I talk myself into sitting here and playing. Hope everyone has a blessed day as they climb those mountains! Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 4:11:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > > I still smoke, so I can't add new lungs to the list, would be such a waste.. well...i would go ahead and ask for a new pink pair...couldn't hurt. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 In a message dated 3/12/2005 4:18:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, lyn.worth@... writes: > > ok, you can have a new one. > I'll have W's - it's never been used anyway > well...being the good conservative that i am (although like christine, somewhat disenchanted) I'd be glad to have his brain. and i already say stuff that doesn't always come out quite right anyway. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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