Mike's Treatment Routines and Modesty

[Guest guest]

I understand from talking to Barb on the phone and scanning the last

couple of days of posts that there is still some confusion on the

issue of disrobing/draping/modesty/ etc. Barb and Debbi both did

excellent jobs of explaining how I work but I add just a bit more to

theirs.

It is strictly up to the person I am working with/on and the type of

work they want done. Fully 95% of the work I do these days is done

fully clothed. The only exceptions to that are if someone wants a

standard Swedish relaxation massage using oil or gel and some very

specialize treatment techniques that require skin on skin contact to

either properly engage the tissue or where very sensitive palpation

is involved.

The point is that the choice is always that of the person I am

working with. Even for the specialized techniqes, I can work around

it if necesssary. It might not be as effective, but I can do it.

[Guest guest]

I met Mike while at Deb's house at the Socal EDSer's get together. The only

thing I took off was my socks & shoes. Darlene was within arm's length of me &

was in full sight of everyone else. Darlene even put my socks & shoes back on.

Bless her! As being very pregnant, it's getting a little difficult. I have to

say that I still haven't had any sciatic nerve problem in my left leg since Mike

did some accupressure on it. I would encourage anyone to at least meet Mike as

he is a great person. And the pain relief is an added bonus.

Marla

HEDS

CA (temp. in Missouri)

Mike's Treatment Routines and Modesty

I understand from talking to Barb on the phone and scanning the last

couple of days of posts that there is still some confusion on the

issue of disrobing/draping/modesty/ etc. Barb and Debbi both did

excellent jobs of explaining how I work but I add just a bit more to

theirs.

It is strictly up to the person I am working with/on and the type of

work they want done. Fully 95% of the work I do these days is done

fully clothed. The only exceptions to that are if someone wants a

standard Swedish relaxation massage using oil or gel and some very

specialize treatment techniques that require skin on skin contact to

either properly engage the tissue or where very sensitive palpation

is involved.

The point is that the choice is always that of the person I am

working with. Even for the specialized techniqes, I can work around

it if necesssary. It might not be as effective, but I can do it.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca

[Guest guest]

I met Mike while at Deb's house at the Socal EDSer's get together. The only

thing I took off was my socks & shoes. Darlene was within arm's length of me &

was in full sight of everyone else. Darlene even put my socks & shoes back on.

Bless her! As being very pregnant, it's getting a little difficult. I have to

say that I still haven't had any sciatic nerve problem in my left leg since Mike

did some accupressure on it. I would encourage anyone to at least meet Mike as

he is a great person. And the pain relief is an added bonus.

Marla

HEDS

CA (temp. in Missouri)

Mike's Treatment Routines and Modesty

I understand from talking to Barb on the phone and scanning the last

couple of days of posts that there is still some confusion on the

issue of disrobing/draping/modesty/ etc. Barb and Debbi both did

excellent jobs of explaining how I work but I add just a bit more to

theirs.

It is strictly up to the person I am working with/on and the type of

work they want done. Fully 95% of the work I do these days is done

fully clothed. The only exceptions to that are if someone wants a

standard Swedish relaxation massage using oil or gel and some very

specialize treatment techniques that require skin on skin contact to

either properly engage the tissue or where very sensitive palpation

is involved.

The point is that the choice is always that of the person I am

working with. Even for the specialized techniqes, I can work around

it if necesssary. It might not be as effective, but I can do it.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca

[Guest guest]

Hi brothers and sisters. Please, Hear me, you will not feel uncomfortable alone

with Mike, dressed or undressed. With or with out Darleen present. He is a sweet

teddy bear, with the utmost professionalism. If for some reason, if it is in

your best interest to remove your clothes, you will always be covered, Always!.

Nothing that should not be seen or touched will not be seen or touched. I

removed my clothes and was draped by a sheet and blanket only because I asked

for a relaxation Swedish massage. I am extremely shy about my body and never

felt a hint of a problem with him. He rarely does relaxation massage now,

because energy does such a better job. Dylan had about I guessing 20 hours of

work done in 4 days by Mike and he was clothed the whole time, covered in a

sheet, blanket and thick comforter. Dylan, being a guy had his shirt off, but

still was covered. It was winter and he was cold. Mike only touched his back,

legs , neck and head. hands to skin. Most of that was done under the covers

exposing nothing. I am a massage therapist too, and I do understand the feelings

and fears of modesty. With Mike, you are in safe and protected hands. Very

conscious of modesty and boundaries. No boundary will ever be crossed. You will

be safe and comfortable. Spend 5 minutes with him, you'll see what I mean. Feel

free to email me privately if you have more questions. You will benefit from the

work, and he will benefit from the experience of working with the EDS body, to

see what helps and what doesn't. It is literally like being in a research

project. Mike wants to help EDS as a whole, with out your help, he can't. Be a

part of the research of the up coming book he hopes that comes out of this. He

is a sensitive, fun loving, genuine, trustworthy, good guy.

Cindylouwho

Mike's Treatment Routines and Modesty

I understand from talking to Barb on the phone and scanning the last

couple of days of posts that there is still some confusion on the

issue of disrobing/draping/modesty/ etc. Barb and Debbi both did

excellent jobs of explaining how I work but I add just a bit more to

theirs.

It is strictly up to the person I am working with/on and the type of

work they want done. Fully 95% of the work I do these days is done

fully clothed. The only exceptions to that are if someone wants a

standard Swedish relaxation massage using oil or gel and some very

specialize treatment techniques that require skin on skin contact to

either properly engage the tissue or where very sensitive palpation

is involved.

The point is that the choice is always that of the person I am

working with. Even for the specialized techniqes, I can work around

it if necesssary. It might not be as effective, but I can do it.

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ehlersdanlos.ca

[Guest guest]

Oh my gosh, Jill, I would have wanted to die too - especially since I

HATE everything there is to hate about my body anyway! How

horrifying - funny NOW, for us, but I can certainly 'feel' your pain!

As for your friend, I'm not sure I'd ever lose my modesty quite in

that way! LOL! Thanks for the smile this morning, Jill!

Love Lana

My surgeon began his lesson and had me stand

> this way and that, then he began to manipulate the other shoulder

to compare

> and in so doing, pulled the tie to the halter top! It fell to the

floor!

> He didn't miss a beat, he grabbed the hospital gown that I held in

my hand

> and helped me slide my good arm in while he tied the rest of it

behind me.

[Guest guest]

Oh my gosh, Jill, I would have wanted to die too - especially since I

HATE everything there is to hate about my body anyway! How

horrifying - funny NOW, for us, but I can certainly 'feel' your pain!

As for your friend, I'm not sure I'd ever lose my modesty quite in

that way! LOL! Thanks for the smile this morning, Jill!

Love Lana

My surgeon began his lesson and had me stand

> this way and that, then he began to manipulate the other shoulder

to compare

> and in so doing, pulled the tie to the halter top! It fell to the

floor!

> He didn't miss a beat, he grabbed the hospital gown that I held in

my hand

> and helped me slide my good arm in while he tied the rest of it

behind me.

[Guest guest]

I think this is a fascinating opportunity for someone to work hands-on with

people with varying degrees of EDS, both for the purposes of help and

information gathering. How neat it may be to someday find a paper written

with alternative therapies in mind that addresses EDS issues, where none

exist now.

If Mike is writing a paper or more based upon his experiences, this would

benefit us all in countless ways. Even if in his travels he generates

enough dialogue and data to get others involved in meaningful research, then

it's well worth it to participate.

But I do know a thing or two about modesty though.... I remember being in a

hospital getting ready for surgery, my surgeon was a top one and he was

hosting grand rounds in the hospital theatre. I was asked to attend,

because he was interested in showing the residents my joint issues and my

curiously posteriorly dislocated shoulder that had been unreduceable despite

general anaesthesia for a week. I was given a halter top to wear and told

when to walk in the room. I was not at all prepared for what happened next.

The room, theatre...was FILLED to it's 400 seat capacity. There I was, my

doctor and I. I couldn't see anything once I was on stage, because the

spotlights were rather bright. My surgeon began his lesson and had me stand

this way and that, then he began to manipulate the other shoulder to compare

and in so doing, pulled the tie to the halter top! It fell to the floor!

He didn't miss a beat, he grabbed the hospital gown that I held in my hand

and helped me slide my good arm in while he tied the rest of it behind me.

He never stopped presenting material to the residents, he never stopped

talking, he just responded and moved on. I honestly preferred to die right

there..... and clearly, I didn't.

But something else that occurred to me just know as I write about modesty -

a good friend of mine was in active labour for her first child in hospital,

it was a typical labour for a first-timer - too darned long. Frustrated,

Deb asked every person who entered the room to check her to see how many

centimeters she was dilated. It mattered not who it was, she was ready

every time the door opened. She even yelled 'check me' to the cleaning lady

when she came in to gather the garbage for the day! Now, that's what I call

tossing one's inhibitions!

Jill

[Guest guest]

I think this is a fascinating opportunity for someone to work hands-on with

people with varying degrees of EDS, both for the purposes of help and

information gathering. How neat it may be to someday find a paper written

with alternative therapies in mind that addresses EDS issues, where none

exist now.

If Mike is writing a paper or more based upon his experiences, this would

benefit us all in countless ways. Even if in his travels he generates

enough dialogue and data to get others involved in meaningful research, then

it's well worth it to participate.

But I do know a thing or two about modesty though.... I remember being in a

hospital getting ready for surgery, my surgeon was a top one and he was

hosting grand rounds in the hospital theatre. I was asked to attend,

because he was interested in showing the residents my joint issues and my

curiously posteriorly dislocated shoulder that had been unreduceable despite

general anaesthesia for a week. I was given a halter top to wear and told

when to walk in the room. I was not at all prepared for what happened next.

The room, theatre...was FILLED to it's 400 seat capacity. There I was, my

doctor and I. I couldn't see anything once I was on stage, because the

spotlights were rather bright. My surgeon began his lesson and had me stand

this way and that, then he began to manipulate the other shoulder to compare

and in so doing, pulled the tie to the halter top! It fell to the floor!

He didn't miss a beat, he grabbed the hospital gown that I held in my hand

and helped me slide my good arm in while he tied the rest of it behind me.

He never stopped presenting material to the residents, he never stopped

talking, he just responded and moved on. I honestly preferred to die right

there..... and clearly, I didn't.

But something else that occurred to me just know as I write about modesty -

a good friend of mine was in active labour for her first child in hospital,

it was a typical labour for a first-timer - too darned long. Frustrated,

Deb asked every person who entered the room to check her to see how many

centimeters she was dilated. It mattered not who it was, she was ready

every time the door opened. She even yelled 'check me' to the cleaning lady

when she came in to gather the garbage for the day! Now, that's what I call

tossing one's inhibitions!

Jill